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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 4, 2009 3:45:42 GMT -5
Lets await the results of the exit polls at 18 h.
Ta wlepo diskola ta pragmata. Mi katheste edo, pigainete na psifisete! ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 4, 2009 3:53:03 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 4, 2009 3:53:32 GMT -5
To PASOK me fenete ?
Edit.
Tora eida to links pou evales !
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 4, 2009 3:56:23 GMT -5
E.
According to the last poll from 21.Sept...lets see what the Greeks will elect in the end...today. At 18 h the first results of the exit polls will be published.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 4, 2009 11:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 4, 2009 11:10:06 GMT -5
Megali nilla gia tin Nea Dimokratia.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 4, 2009 12:48:49 GMT -5
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Kanaris
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This just in>>>> Nobody gives a crap!
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 4, 2009 13:02:53 GMT -5
He needs to get rid of that mustache and put on some hair.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 4, 2009 13:09:34 GMT -5
He needs to get rid of that mustache and put on some hair. Papandreu or Karamanlis? ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 5, 2009 0:41:07 GMT -5
www.kathimerini.gr/Drama to apotelesma gia tin Nea Dimokratia. Lipame paidia alla o mesos Ellinas prepei na einai poli malakas, anorimos kai wlakas an pisteuei oti to pasok tha kanei kati. Treis kai cheiroteroi tha wgoun autou opos panta, pasok einai, les kai den tous kseroun. Euchomai to kako pou tha kanoun stin Ellada na einai mikro kai prosopika euchomai apotichia ston Papandreou dioti einai megalo archidi....apodichthike oti einai ola ta chronia pou ekane antipoliteusi (ti antipoliteusi, an itan auti antipoliteusi zito pou kaikame). I Nea Dimokratia choris Karamanli tha kanei kairo na kiwernisei pali. Makari na wgo pseutis alla diskola ta pragmata. Auta ta archidia tha archisoun tora na mirazoun chrimata choris na koitan tis oikonomikes dinatotites tis Ellados opos ekane kai o Andreas Papandreou choris na oudemia euthini....kai o kosmos toso ilithios pou einai tha fonazei zito to pasok. kai meta apo kana dio, treis tetraeties pasok tha tous kourastei o laos me ta polla klepsimata, tha wgaloun tin Nea Dimokratia kai auti tha einai pali to kako antilaiko komma otan tha pigainei gia nikokireuma ton spatalon ton teleutaion chronon. Etsi paei o kiklos edo kai polla chronia kai oi ellines to wlepoun alla etsi tous aresei. Giauto kai panta kolopetinitsa tha meinei...ekei Elladitsa. Giati stin Dimokratia panta o laos pernei auto pou tou aksizei.
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 5, 2009 2:36:32 GMT -5
Karmanlis didnt lose...his party lost. His Ypourgoi are the ones that were voted out and to be honest myself as a karamanli supporter could NOT vote for that party again. Their whole slogan in 2007 was the anti-corruption slogan and they did worst things than Pasok did in 20 yrs ! They are the scumbags...all greek politcal parties are incompetent. You tell me 1 that is worth anything. BakoGiannis will now take over ND which was probably the plan to begin with epidi " kourastike " o Karamanlis. Karamanlis should of gotten rid of all his corrupt party members...alla den exei pango Anyway, gia na doume ti tha kani o Giorgakis. lets give him a shot...and least he grew up in America. He might actually build some roads or something. Im going to give him a chance
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Patrinos
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Peloponnesos uber alles
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 5, 2009 4:24:43 GMT -5
I really expected something from Karamanlis. He disappointed me, and his party was disasterous for the country... And no other party can do anything more bad for the country... Papandreou(my covillager... ;D) has a different mentality of public life... and I hope the suspicious Pasokoi who are ready to grap ministries would leave him with out scandals, and let him govern... This what Karamanlis asked...two years of freezing of the economy in the name of the crisis was very anti- economic. Freezing is never a solution for economy, hope in the other hand makes economy grow. I Kastoria kratise... ;D ;D
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 5, 2009 4:45:31 GMT -5
yeah...and another thing. Why should we freeze when his ypourgoi are making millions on the expense of the citizens ? They were all corrupt making big deals for themselves. They should of never had a slogan to clean up politics when they are one of the dirtiest. That is why they lost. The preached a campaign to be clean...but they did the exact opposite and exprected us to give them another chance. If you ask me they should all be in jail...Xrisi Avgi was available to vote ;D I almost put them in the envelope
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 5, 2009 4:49:41 GMT -5
btw - im curious to see who the FM will be. If its Venizelos than we are screwed. He might be doing things on his own and not listen to Papandreou. If i was George, I would keep the post to myself and have some anapliroti with me...
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Post by macmako on Oct 5, 2009 6:29:36 GMT -5
It is true that Karamanlis and his immediate associates did not do much good for Greece. When he was suppose to fix the corruption issues, it only got worse. He should be spanked for that. But if I was able to vote in Greece, I would still vote for Nea Dimokratia Party if there was a good candidate.
Ζήτω η Νέα Δημοκρατία
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 5, 2009 7:18:10 GMT -5
thats total bulls.hit. I Nea Dimokratia oute kata diania den ekane ta skandala tou pasok. Aplos o kosmos einai pleon pio euaisthitopoiimenos apo palia kai den sigchorei pleon tetoies prakseis eukola. Euchomai na parameinoun kai me to pasok etsi. To pasok ekane para poli megala lathi sto parelthon...echei smproksei tin Ellada se enan chaulo kiklo apo ton opoion schedon adinaton einai na wgei...kai auto idi epi Papandreou Andrea. To chrima, ta disekatommiria pou echoun faei kai spatalisei ston kosmo autoi, den echei faei i Nea Dimokratia oute kata 5%.
I will not. He should be treated the same way he treated Karamanlis since 2004. Just unconstructive criticizm all over the 5 years. What he did was actually a organized hate campaign against Karamanlis. I dont see why to give him a chance? For the good of the country? Let me tell you...someone who makes unconstructive popagandistic oppositional policy can impossibly be interested in the good of the country. The only thing someone like that is interested in is power and nothing else. Thats typical pasok. Thats what he has proven already in 2007 where he wanted to stay in the position of the party leader although he was totally uncapable of staying it in fact.
Me pano apo 50% gia tin Nea Dimokratia. Se'mas den echei wgei pote to pasok kai oute prokeite. Emeis prasiniles den psifizoume, eimaste Ellines kai giauto iparchei mono ena chroma mple!!!
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 5, 2009 7:30:05 GMT -5
btw - im curious to see who the FM will be. If its Venizelos than we are screwed. He might be doing things on his own and not listen to Papandreou. If i was George, I would keep the post to myself and have some anapliroti with me... O monos pou chonewo sto pasok einai o Venizelos. Proton epeidi einai Makedonas kai deuteron epeidi einai megalos ritoras...en antithesi me ton Giorgaki fisika pou os kai ego pou eimai Neo Dimokratis nropiazomai otan ton akouo...
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 5, 2009 7:30:41 GMT -5
thats total bulls.hit. I Nea Dimokratia oute kata diania den ekane ta skandala tou pasok. Aplos o kosmos einai pleon pio euaisthitopoiimenos apo palia kai den sigchorei pleon tetoies prakseis eukola. Euchomai na parameinoun kai me to pasok etsi. To pasok ekane para poli megala lathi sto parelthon...echei smproksei tin Ellada se enan chaulo kiklo apo ton opoion schedon adinaton einai na wgei...kai auto idi epi Papandreou Andrea. To chrima, ta disekatommiria pou echoun faei kai spatalisei ston kosmo autoi, den echei faei i Nea Dimokratia oute kata 5%. I will not. He should be treated the same way he treated Karamanlis since 2004. Just unconstructive criticizm all over the 5 years. What he did was actually a organized hate campaign against Karamanlis. I dont see why to give him a chance? For the good of the country? Let me tell you...someone who makes unconstructive popagandistic oppositional policy can impossibly be interested in the good of the country. The only thing someone like that is interested in is power and nothing else. Thats typical pasok. Thats what he has proven already in 2007 where he wanted to stay in the position of the party leader although he was totally uncapable of staying it in fact. Me pano apo 50% gia tin Nea Dimokratia. Se'mas den echei wgei pote to pasok kai oute prokeite. Emeis prasiniles den psifizoume, eimaste Ellines kai giauto iparchei mono ena chroma mple!!! Kastor, the point is that ND was elected to clean up the trash. Ppl believed in them, and you're right...we are not tolerant to that anymore. They lied and maybe they didnt manage to do what pasok did in 20 yrs, but they did ALOT in 6 yrs. Those bastards gia mena should be shot in the head. All of them. I dont understand why karamanlis didnt fire them all. Im a huge supporter of him...but he screwed up as a leader. Giorgakis, did go after karmanlis in a mean and demeaning mannor. I agree 110 and I hated the guy for it. That was a while ago and the amerikanaki maybe didnt know what to do at the time to lessen karamanlis's ratings. But, he is from america and knows the american mentality. That is why I will give him a chance. God knows if we had the Greeks of america governing this country...We would be light years ahead. Its no coincidence all the brains are outside of Greece.
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 5, 2009 7:38:16 GMT -5
Believe me...I abhor the corrupt ministers more than anyone else but the pasok has magnified every little mistake the ministers did to great cases of corruption...san lisagmena skilia. It was no cirticism anymore...it was pure hate. And no one can tell me they hated for the good of the people. Only the Greek socialists are like that...
Papandreou being from America is just another reason why I will never support or trust him. The guy is even not full blooded Greek...to elect him was a great mistake and all of you will see that. Im glad I have not to live the next four years in Greece.
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 5, 2009 7:42:52 GMT -5
im not full blodded either Kastor...but believe me, im more patriotic to my country than these full blooded animals are here. These ppl do not care at all about Greece....in any case those socialists are back in the day in another era. i dont think Pasok will act the same like they did under Andreas and Simitis. And one more thing I have to say....Andreas like him or not...was a badass. He wouldnt of allowed have the chit turkey is pulling with us today. He was a patiot and even though im not pasok... I liked Andreas Papandreou. The man had balls... Giorgakis is a diplomat and knows how to play the game. He has many friends and who knows....he might actually surprise us. Here we had Karamanlis that I thought would change everything which he didnt. Now we have Giorgakis that is expected to fail....who knows he may not In Greece, i am used to expect the unexpected... Barak was the first one to call him
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