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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 18, 2009 16:46:43 GMT -5
Yes Stokavian is one language I believe. As do most academics though Croats are notorious for dissagreeing & making changes to their language. Serbs also have a tendency to claim Stokavian as just Serbian & make out that Cakavian/Kakavian are the actual Croat languages.
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Post by tito on Nov 18, 2009 17:21:33 GMT -5
 In short these are Bosnian dialects, the east Hercegovinian dialect of the Bosnian language was used in order to create the so called Serbo-Croatian language used in Yugoslavia, today even Serbia uses a missformed version of the Bosnian language by handicapping it with the Serbian ekavica. |
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 18, 2009 17:25:30 GMT -5
I'm thinking maybe you do suffer from some actual phsychological dissorder.
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Post by Username on Nov 18, 2009 18:00:21 GMT -5
lol @ tito and his Bosnian kingdom map..
Not only was that Bosnia in the 15th'ish century (ruled by Croatian and Serbian kingdoms before, and for much longer), but more than half the territory in that map was only Bosnia's for 40-50 years... hahaha
Fail.
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Post by tito on Nov 18, 2009 18:32:40 GMT -5
;D Croatia didn’t even exist, the map clearly says "Hrvati"(Croats) and not "Hrvatska"(Croatia): Anyway the point was that real Croats(and their original Croatian language) are outside BOSNIA/the Bosnian langue zone, so unless you are from the small region around Zagreb you need to return to your Bosniak roots. Same goes for the Posrbice who have known all of this since the day Vuk Karadzic stole the Bosnian language and that is the real reason way they wish to spread Ekavica into Bosnia so that future generations of Posrbice will be pushed even further from their Bosniak roots. |
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Post by Username on Nov 18, 2009 18:41:25 GMT -5
LoL you really are crazy.
Now you're saying that the Croats in Croatia are not really Croat unless they're from the region around Zagreb?? What is wrong with you?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 18, 2009 18:44:49 GMT -5
;D Croatia didn’t even exist, the map clearly says "Hrvati"(Croats) and not "Hrvatska"(Croatia): Oh I never thought of this point before. There's like a massive plethora of maps going back to long ago showing simply "SerbS" or "CroatS" as ethnicities without delineated borders. But I don't think I've ever ever seen a map that simply identifies "BosnianS" as a people in such a manner. |
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Post by vinjak on Nov 18, 2009 18:50:06 GMT -5
Anyway the point was that real Croats(and their original Croatian language) are outside BOSNIA/the Bosnian langue zone, so unless you are from the small region around Zagreb you need to return to your Bosniak roots. Same goes for the Posrbice who have known all of this since the day Vuk Karadzic stole the Bosnian language and that is the real reason way they wish to spread Ekavica into Bosnia so that future generations of Posrbice will be pushed even further from their Bosniak roots.
I think he is just trying to rile people up there is not a chance he actually believes this and if he does, then there are no words just aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa
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Post by MiG on Nov 18, 2009 19:02:31 GMT -5
LOL!!
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Post by tito on Nov 18, 2009 19:07:30 GMT -5
Now you're saying that the Croats in Croatia are not really Croat unless they're from the region around Zagreb?? History is saying that: www.bosnjaci.hrAnd as I have told you before it is still unclear if the so called Croats ever really existed even in the Zagreb area. And the so called Serbs of "Serbia"(SerVia) are no better:  I mean who is crazy enough to equalize a social label such as that SLAVES with a real people??  |
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Post by Gigolo on Nov 18, 2009 19:26:16 GMT -5
Karadzic himself said Herzegovinian way of speaking was most beautiful, and thats what he based the Serbo-Croat language on.
Before that most outsides thought the Bosnian (Herzegovinian included) was the most fluid and nice sounding.
Croatian language before Karadzic was much different. People from different regions could barely understandd eachother. BiH had the most uniform dialect up till then, and maybe even today.
As for someone saying Bosnian doesn't exist, it's like saying Croatian and Serbian don't exist. They all exist. They all developed and were each called differently by the 3 people. It doesn't mean today they are different completly, but each people do have a right to call it their name. Nobody owns it anymore then anyone else.
When Yugoslavia was in the making, if they wanted one name for everyone to call it, it should've been Yugoslavian or something along those lines, that doesn't imply ownership to only one group or two groups.
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Post by Username on Nov 18, 2009 20:37:13 GMT -5
You really are a psycho.
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Post by tito on Nov 18, 2009 20:51:39 GMT -5
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Post by vinjak on Nov 18, 2009 21:17:35 GMT -5
Opa lololol
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 19, 2009 6:46:53 GMT -5
But tito said that croats didn't even exist and now his bosnian kingdom specifies "hrvati" lolololllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
when they cut his downstairs it must have given him limited brains also my lordy!!!!!
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Post by MiG on Nov 19, 2009 12:00:43 GMT -5
^ ROFL!!!! Exhalt for that; epic.
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Post by tito on Nov 21, 2009 21:06:48 GMT -5
13.11.2009 Predsjednik Vlade RS-a i SNSD-a Milorad Dodik izrazio je danas spremnost da u ovom trenutku doðe do oko osam promjena Ustava BiH da bi se deblokirao daljnji proces evropskih integracija. Te promjene odnosile bi se na poveæanje broja poslanika u Predstavnièkom domu, kao i Domu naroda Parlamentarne skupštine BiH, zatim da se izbor poslanika u Dom naroda vrši s prostora cijele BiH, odnosno da se iskljuèi nacionalni ekskluzivitet prilikom izbora u zajednièke organe, što znaèi, pojasnio je, da se ne bi birao Srbin iz RS-a ili Hrvat i Bošnjak iz Federacije, veæ bi u Ustavu stajalo da se bira jedan predstavnik iz RS-a, odnosno dva iz Federacije BiH.
Dodik je izrazio spremnost da doðe do promjene Ustava BiH i u dijelu koji regulira rotaciju u Predsjedništvu BiH, koja se ne bi vršila svakih osam kao do sada, veæ svakih 16 mjeseci, zatim da bi se iz nadležnosti Predsjedništva BiH iskljuèilo pitanje odluèivanja o budžetu i prebacilo u nadležnost Vijeæa ministara BiH i, kako je dodao, postoji spremnost za još neke promjene državnih ustava. www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/aktuelno/dodik-spremni-smo-na-promjene-ustava-bih ;D 21. novembar 2009 ..Primjetimo da on ovdje nudi Bosnjacima da se u “zajednicke organe BiH ne bira po jedan Hrvat i jedan Bosnjak iz Federacje”, nego dvojica koji dobiju najvise glasova. Dakle, prodadose cetnici svoje vjerne cuke, hercegovacki HVO i njihov san o “Herceg-Bosni”, a da nisu ni okom trepnuli. nkrbih.blogspot.com/ Postavlja se pitanje kako će osoba koja se 1975. svojevoljno izjašnjavala kao Srbin, pardon Jugosloven, i kao i svaki drugi Srbin potpisivala ćirilicom, iako je i po Ustavu i po zakonima Republike BiH mogla komotno da se izjašnjava kao Hrvat, kako će ta osoba danas zastupati interese bosanskih Hrvata?  |
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 21, 2009 23:42:40 GMT -5
and so we rejoice, that now...the Bosanski Hrvat comes back from the dead! Hvala tito! Smokic :-)
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Post by tito on Nov 22, 2009 0:21:13 GMT -5
In 1975 he declared himself Yugoslav and not a “Croat“, in 1875 he would still have been a catholic Bosniak before he became a posrbica, now he wants to declare himself a “Croat” not because he ever was one but because of his serb expansionist ideology.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Nov 22, 2009 0:25:07 GMT -5
I honestly don't care about this guy, he obviously doeosn't know who he is. What is most important to me is that on ALL of my families birth papers THEY declared themselves under "narodnost" as Hrvat ili Hrvatica. So suck on that.
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