Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 12, 2009 13:52:21 GMT -5
I just read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_music_in_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslaviaand its amazing the music you guys produced back then. The whole eastern and south europe was inspired by you. I am just starting with the Bihac scene (Divlje Jagode) and Nis scene (Galija, Kerber). All of them are fantastic! i like the classic "Motori Motori" which i had heard back in 1985 i think for the first time from a guy from my town who was studying in ex-YU. Also i like very much "Hajde da se volimo" by Kerber, and "Da li si spavala" by Galija. I am trying to find also some proto-thrash, hardcore, crossover, proto-rapcore bands as well. Fantastic stuff... PS Its a fucking shame what drugs did to some of the best musicians back then like the guys and the girl from Ekaterina Velika..... fucking drugs.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Sept 13, 2009 0:45:18 GMT -5
Pyross, rock & metal is definitely very popular in Serbia. There are a few festivals & I read somewhere that it has the biggest Pagan metal scene in Europe. Man I would have loved to have seen Slayer at the Exit festival a few years back & hung out with some authentic Goth/metal Serb chicks. The standard of cover bands in Belgrade is just brilliant as well. You can catch live music anywhere & the standard of the cover bands I saw in Beograd last time I was there was just brilliant.
There are a quite few Serb metal websites. Even Republika Srspka has a dedicated forum. I was trying to see if there was anything good I liked a while back & I didn't mind a couple of the Goth & doom tunes I came across. I thought these ones were pretty good. Wasn't ever too much of a fan of Goth but honestly these Serb ones are pretty good I reckon...
Demether- Sound Of A Horn (Rocks!!!)
Demether - Silence (Actual Film Clip)
Tales of Dark - Of Grandiose Fevers and Passion Arcane (Doom but really good. 141k hits!)
New Old School Death Metal Band - Proto-thrash maybe. Awaiting Fear Dead Inside
Can't say this is def true but I can imagine it would be...
As well as having a large mainstream music scene, there is also a large heavy metal scene of all genres in Serbia. To this day, it has the largest metal scene out of any of the nations in the former Yugoslavia. Many of these bands often incorporate Serbian and Slavic folklore into their music. Along with Finland, Serbia has one of the largest "pagan metal" scenes in Europe.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Sept 13, 2009 0:52:20 GMT -5
Hey Pyross did you ever listen to Soulfly's album "Three?" Part of it was recorded in Serbia with some gypsie music sampling I think. Max Cavalerras wife is Serbian.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Sept 13, 2009 0:53:29 GMT -5
Hey & Pyross have you got Megadeths new album yet? Just came out here last week. I've gotta get me a copy for sure. One of the top few greatest bands of all time.
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 1:04:32 GMT -5
Hey Pyross did you ever listen to Soulfly's album "Three?" Part of it was recorded in Serbia with some gypsie music sampling I think. Max Cavalerras wife is Serbian. to znaci da on je jedan od nas sada! I dont give Max much time before he turns into a full blown anarcho-chetnik! Serbian wife? ha ha, the guy must have freaked out, now that he found a place where all his lyrics back in the 90s can apply... (dont... dont believe what you read.... !!!)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 1:07:06 GMT -5
Hey & Pyross have you got Megadeths new album yet? Just came out here last week. I've gotta get me a copy for sure. One of the top few greatest bands of all time. man!! Is Dave Mustain still alive? "Peace Sells" ha ha that was the times! Last album i bought from megaeth was Yuthanasia back in 1994, and i didn't like it. Is Marty Friedman still with Megadeth?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Sept 13, 2009 1:16:40 GMT -5
Hey & Pyross have you got Megadeths new album yet? Just came out here last week. I've gotta get me a copy for sure. One of the top few greatest bands of all time. man!! Is Dave Mustain still alive? "Peace Sells" ha ha that was the times! Last album i bought from megaeth was Yuthanasia back in 1994, and i didn't like it. Is Marty Friedman still with Megadeth? Ah man I can't believe you didn't like Youthanasia. I fvcken loved it. It was a shift from their old stuff but it still rocked. They went soft & sold out a bit with Trust but their philosophy on the last couple of albums has just been to be as old school as possible. Megadeth rule man. Megadeth, Soulfly, Slipknot, Slayer, some Fear Factory, Korn. Guess I'm mostly into mainstream metal but I like some obscure stuff you can listn to on metal radio. I'm open to anything. Mustaine is a King!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 1:31:55 GMT -5
Arsenije, i think most guitarists have this problem at some time in their career: By getting better at their playing, it slowly starts a situation, when instead of *them* playing the guitar, the guitar starts to play them, and while the result is technically very good or perfect, the originality and the soul are gone. I think Dave starting to hang out with marty friedman was cool at first but developed problems.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 2:53:54 GMT -5
As far as the new rock scene is concerned, from the limited time i have to listen to music, (only in car, going home<->work) one band that gained my love is "System of a down". I think Toxicity is one the best rock albums of all times. I hadn't been stuck like this with another band since the early 90s, and it happened with System! Fear factory were pioneers, i think, in their sound. Also Slipknot is an INCREDIBLE band! My nephew introduced me to their music ;D and they rock big time!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 3:02:20 GMT -5
Awaiting Fear, are very good! female growling vocals, sounding more heavy than a man! if only they have lived 20 years back!
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Sept 13, 2009 11:18:47 GMT -5
They (Eyesburn) are conection to Soulfly (see Soulfly - Moses).
They are kind of Bad Brains (Nu Metal and Reggae mix).
Front man of Coyote had cooperated with Soulfly. they have toured together for a while.
Coyote also played in best Serbian reggae band Del Arno Band as well when he played trumpet (or something like that, trombone?).
The whole band are my friends too.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Sept 13, 2009 11:49:44 GMT -5
Sunshine is a mainly Hip Hop / rap band but this song is kind of Nu Metal. You can notice Coyote in this video as well.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Sept 13, 2009 11:52:43 GMT -5
357 or Trip at sedam is rap-folk(historical)-metal band-ska.
I know them as well. ;D
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Sept 13, 2009 12:00:50 GMT -5
Goblini from Sabac.
Dzukele from Subotica.
Partibrejkes, old school garage rock band from Belgrade.
Johnny Depp and Partibrakes. You can also see Jim Jarmush and Emir Kusturica.
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Post by vinjak on Sept 13, 2009 18:44:14 GMT -5
Max Cavalera's daughter is Married to a Serb while attending the Wedding in Serbia the band playing the wedding suprised him with a rendition of Roots with trumpets etc...the Album Prophecy was recorded in Beograd and the last track on the album is Mars na Drinu Guys I dont know if you have heard Otep not Ex JU but absolutley awesome check out the song Ghost flowers, She is a screamer and a growler... Awesome.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 14, 2009 3:15:52 GMT -5
Cool info guys!!! Shonic! you really have the right connections man! Here is what Max writes about Serbia:
No Rock-Star-Bullshit 18. Juni 2004 Soulfly - Interview - Max Cavalera - FRITZ - Martina 'Dini' Lettner Soulfly- and Sepultura-Mastermind Max Cavalera. Bild: SN/roadrunner
They look evil and brutal when they're on stage. But the guys from Soulfly aren't that dangerous: FRITZ met Max Cavalera for an Interview at the Aerdrome-Festival.
Max: We played Paris last night, so we had a long travel, we stopped a lot. But I'm glad we made it in time, even for the interviews.
Q: Did Dave (Elefsson, Ex-Member of Megadeth) have any influence on the new record?
Max: Not much, because when Dave came, as a guest, the songs were already written. I invited him to come to the studio, saying: "I'm doing a new soulfly record. Do you want to play in one song?" And then it's been four songs, you know. Style by Megadeath-Dave, it's really cool! His hand is going all over the base and I was like "WOW!", you know, pretty exciting, I can't do that!
Q: How did the idea come to you to have Dave playing on the new record? He is known for his work with Megadeth, which is totally different from Soulfly's. It's straight, while Soulfly' is very rhythmic.
Max: Yeah, but I like working with other musicians, knowing to make them feel comfortable, be part of the Soulfly environment. It's the same with the song I did with Christian from Ill nino, you hear him, but you know, it's a soulfly song. With Dave it was really easy to hook up. He lives in the same town. It was a really non-stress- type of jam,.. If you want to do something cool, just: No stress. If it starts getting any kind of stress or bullshit, I say: See you later. It's not supposed to be like that. It supposed to be fun. Serious, of course, but without any rock-star-bullshit.
Q: Is that maybe because of your latin origin?
Max: Could be, we like to meet everybody. In Brazil we make friends really easy. It's cool. I' ve worked with different musicians for many years, from Sepultura's early hours. Since the second record. So I think, you are right. That's brazilian blood, we like to meet everybody and don't give a shit. It's fun, it's passion. It makes me happy to meet friends and make some music. I've done a lot, from death metal to hardcore, reaggy, word music, percussion, popular metal like slayer. I didn't work with Ozzy, who is one of my main favourite persons, but I sang with him in Japan, so that was really cewl.
FRITZ: What does music mean to you?
Max: It's everything, you know. Like, even sometimes it's annoying for people who live with me they don't understand why I have headphones and music all the time with me. But know they are starting to know better. And I have the feeling that my son who is eight, is going the same way. It's terrifying my life and my family right now, (laughs) 'cause he asks for guitar-lessons and of course, I'll give him.
He wants to follow me. The other one, Zyon, is into sports: football and skateboards. He is eleven. Igor, he's eight, is the one who's got diabetes, so he is really been close to me, I work with him a lot, you know, doing shit, take his blood out and things like that, so we are tight. But his question about having guitar-lessons came out of the blue. My chaw just dropped: "Wow, you want to learn guitar?" And he just said: "Yeah!" I didn't have to say anything, I wouldn't anyway, I'd never say: "You have to be a musician!" Never. The way to discover music has to come from you.
FRITZ: Was it like this with your parents and you?
Max: Yeah, like my mom and my dad never ever tried to force music on me. Even my dad played acoustic guitar, he'd never say: "Play guitar!" He said: "The boy has to figure out, what he wants:" And that's the way it went.
FRITZ: Is your family with you all the time?
Max: Not all the time, but when we can. They are here on tour till the end of July, then we go back to the states, when they have school, then I travel and they stay home. So it depends, you know. But it's cool, you know, I can take them and show them something of the World. In America so many people only know America. It's so sad. They don't know the rest of the world exists! So I'm glad, my kids are not like that. They know Europe, they know Brazil, that's good. They were with me in Serbia too.
FRITZ: How did you get the Idea to go to Serbia?
Max: It's not really about Serbia, it's about an adventure. It could have been somewhere else, it could have been Romania too, just a part of the eastern European block. It was exciting because many musicians don't go to this part of the world. It was cool to go to Belgrad because bombed just a couple of years ago, they had this big war. I'm glad that I did some stuff like that.
FRITZ: What was the most impressing thing?
Max: The buildings are pretty impressive. So when you're driving downtown there are massive, huge buildings destroyed from the war. They don't fix them, that's quite hardcore actually.
And I went to the dentist there. And that was pretty funny, because the first thing, they give you, is a shot of vodka or whatever! I never saw that in my live! (laughs) and then everybody's smoking cigarettes, it was like "wow", very different! It was fun! I came back home kind of drunken. When I told this my friends back in America, everybody just laughed and said: "No way!" He really got two shots of vodka before he started working on my teeth! But it was cool, different. I liked to experience that, got to know the culture.
Q: You seem to be quite interested in social items and politics. Do you try to get in touch with the people of the countries you are travelling to?
Max: Yeah, I do. I go for a walk sometimes, go to the neighbourhood. Maybe it can be a dangerous situation sometimes, you know: "What the fuck are you doing in the wrong neighbourhood?", but it was never the case. Sometimes people have been yelling at me in another language, but then I kept walking. I did that in South Africa. I woke up one morning and my wife was asleep and my kids were sleeping too, so just took of walking and ended up in some streets with a bazaar. And then I started talking to some people, that was really cool. In Indonesia it was the same, I went walking once, total ghetto-looking, cewl. But everybody was nice. Once they see you there, they are really cool. I like to see that side of a country most rock-stars don't see. They only stay on a five star hotel.
Q: Isn't that a problem because you are well-known?!
Max: Yeah, but it's cool. I don't care. And in some places they don't know me. For example in South Africa they think, I'm just another fucking crazy tourist walking around. That's the cool part! In some areas they don't know nothing about music! In some parts where we got in Serbia, we travelled for hours in the countryside and I felt like the world had stopped! They don't know anything about what's going on in Iraq. There's a monastery in the middle of nowhere and the priest with his big beard until here (holds his hand next to his navel), that's it. That's the world for them. It was quite amazing. If I ever get tired of everything, that's where I'm going. I'm moving with the priest right there.. (laughs)
FRITZ: It is said, that you're the Bob Marley of Metal. Is that right?
Max: Naaa, you know.. I'm glad about the idea what he meant, but you've got to be your own person. That's the one thing I don't like about some bands: "They gonna be the next ..blablabla.." I always hated that! Even in the times when Sepultura was starting getting big and some people were like: "Yeah, they gonna be the next Metallica!" I hated that. They were Metallica and they are great. And we were Sepultura, completely different. We had our own ideology. And now it's the same with Soulfly. You've got to be the one you are
#martina "dini" lettner
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Post by Duke John on Dec 16, 2009 19:35:18 GMT -5
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