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Post by zgembo on May 14, 2009 5:51:43 GMT -5
It's sad (& embarassing) how Albanians carry on about being white. They're more racist than actual white people. Seems to be such an American phenomenon as well. If you's left America & came to Australia you along with most Balkanites & Mediterranean Europeans would mostly not even be considered "white." It's not even a term used here. I don't think they carry on about being white. They just want to marry within their own race. I think Albanians are traditional and conservative more than anything else (like racist). They just want to be able to pass down certain traditions and cultural traits and there is nothing wrong with that. I would prefer to marry a Serbian girl or a Slavic one. It has nothing to do with racism though. I want to preserve my language and I cannot do that with someone non-Slavic. If I could (or if she would really take it upon herself to learn the language) then I would be with a non-Slavic girl too. I also want my kids to be an extension of myself. You know how they say the only way to remain immortal is through your kids. Well, it's hard to achieve that if your kids are multi-racial. I don't think that's racism, it's egoism or self-love more than anything. As far as Albanians or other Europeans in general being disgusted by their own women dating black guys, I don't think its racism as much as it is a socio-cultural thing. If the girl is with some upstanding black guy, with a PhD and a good family background, they would all like him. Thing is, they don't usually go out with those kind of guys. They go for thugs, and bad boys who will give them attention.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 14, 2009 5:56:58 GMT -5
Talking about colors, i have seen much darker people in the Celtic British ranks than in e.g. Belgrade or Novi Sad. Fact is, MANY STOCK northern britons (scotts) bear dark characteristics, so.... why all the fuss about?
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Post by chalkedon on May 14, 2009 6:02:05 GMT -5
1 black man = 5 albs in size and strength... Hell... 1 black woman would probably lay the smack down on an albo guy...thats probably why they are terrified of the idea of going out with one ;-D
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Post by occamsrazor on May 14, 2009 6:12:39 GMT -5
I am Croatian ( full as in both parents) but I am not particularly nationalistic. I hold no antipathy towards Serbs, Muslims , other Croats , or any collective group. I strictly judge people on their individual merits.
I'm not even religious and for all intents and purposes I can be considered an atheist and rather hostile to religious dogma. I've dated a Serbian woman for a long time much to the chagrin of particular members of both of our families but I really didn't give a damn as I don't allow their biased and force fed opinions to influence my life decisions. The qualities I see in people have nothing to do with what identity they are taught to believe they have. People ought to realize their own identities rather than try to follow some arbitrary standard set by others with opinions.
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Post by chalkedon on May 14, 2009 6:18:32 GMT -5
^ well said...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 14, 2009 6:21:28 GMT -5
guys relax, its like when someones says i come from Berkley University, then the person has big chances of having high quality, whereas if he is from Univ of ..... Kongo then he might be a genious, he might be 100% useless...
A nationality is like a degree from a school.
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Post by occamsrazor on May 14, 2009 6:50:51 GMT -5
^^ Interesting. I agree.
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Post by L0gjICK on May 14, 2009 7:21:13 GMT -5
Thing is I don't really care what others view me. If you consider me racist, then so be it. I don't change my attitudes to serve the needs of others, but I guess in some of these Western Countries this line of thinking is unacceptable. Reminds me of that beauty pageant broad from California who spoke against Gay Marriages and all of a sudden there's an outcry. Most pageant contestants give answers that make you want to put your hands over your eyes because you're ashamed a human that any can be that stupid. But of course stupidity is never called out or scrutinized. However, when a pageant contestant gives a somewhat intelligent honest answer on her views, and all hell breaks loose. Moral of the story is hide your true feelings and give bs answers I suppose.
Sorry but there is no way would I ever marry a Black girl. No fucking way. It would be a slap to my ancestors who tried to pass down their traditions to me and it would be insult to my own intelligence. If that makes me a Balkan Caveman, then oogggaaaaaaaa bogggggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaa b*tch.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 14, 2009 7:23:53 GMT -5
Lol, that comedian is terrible. But you're right, the only people who use the term "white" here are Anglo's and they only use it to describe themselves. Mind you, they are a bunch of ignorant and closed minded people so I don't pay much attention to them anyway. I disagree. It's mostly Blacks who are Black conscious. Whites in the former colonies are generally uncaring about colour association. Figures since most of them don't know their own ancestry, anything about their ancestors' country of origin or their ancestors' customs.
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Post by chalkedon on May 14, 2009 7:41:19 GMT -5
Thing is I don't really care what others view me. If you consider me racist, then so be it. I don't change my attitudes to serve the needs of others, but I guess in some of these Western Countries this line of thinking is unacceptable. Reminds me of that beauty pageant broad from California who spoke against Gay Marriages and all of a sudden there's an outcry. Most pageant contestants give answers that make you want to put your hands over your eyes because you're ashamed a human that any can be that stupid. But of course stupidity is never called out or scrutinized. However, when a pageant contestant gives a somewhat intelligent honest answer on her views, and all hell breaks loose. Moral of the story is hide your true feelings and give bs answers I suppose. Sorry but there is no way would I ever marry a Black girl. No f**king way. It would be a slap to my ancestors who tried to pass down their traditions to me and it would be insult to my own intelligence. If that makes me a Balkan Caveman, then oogggaaaaaaaa bogggggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaa b*tch. Im with you on that one. But thats a seperate issue your describing. What you describe is Political Correctness in the US. Thats old news..that started to happen under clinton's administration. Your racial preference is your own business, but your offspring will surely be assimililated in the future, so its kind of pointless. You should see the profile of an " american " within the next 100 years. They are a mix of african, latin, asian and white. It will be a hybrid race soon enough... www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/14/money.census.diversity/index.html
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Post by ilirdardani on May 14, 2009 11:10:08 GMT -5
Illyria has a messed up view of the Balkans. Probably because she's trying to justify her sleazy lifestyle. I won't write that there aren't Balkan men who beat their wives and children, because there are. But to say that all Balkan men don't respect women is downright retarded and only spouted by idiots who don't know anything about the Balkans, people who've grown up in abusive households thus they think every family is like their family and people with political agendas. ^ Agreed. And mapko said it pretty well, about trying to keep the same culture and passing it down. +1 Also illyria, if you really love other races (africans, asians) why don't you marry a black guy and be an example to the Balkan people.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on May 14, 2009 11:31:58 GMT -5
It's sad (& embarassing) how Albanians carry on about being white. They're more racist than actual white people. not all Albanians "carry on about being white" i said i owuld prefer intermarriages between Asians(Chinese looking Asians not Pakistanis Lol) and certain Latin Americans then other Balkans(who are white just like Albanians)... other Albanians who say they would prefer balkan intermarriage over other "foreingers" obviously have never met anyone who is mixed from the balkans its not cool, and your kids will have to hate one side and love the other to be accepted by anyone and like i said i wouldnt wish that on my worse enemy. you're talking about having to deal with douchebags on a daily basis not some ideal utopian society of "we're all balkan and drink raki and eat burek" yeay i'm so awesome and blah blah. im not racist but i just have certain preferences. i would never even go out with let alone think of marrying someone of african, indian, etc tht type of ancestry.
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Post by malsor4life on May 14, 2009 11:33:52 GMT -5
My shqipes ! Dont let these Yugos and Greeks bother you, they are just jealous that we are a much purer stock and they are mixed mutts. LoL
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Post by soko on May 14, 2009 11:36:38 GMT -5
Illyria has a messed up view of the Balkans. Probably because she's trying to justify her sleazy lifestyle. I won't write that there aren't Balkan men who beat their wives and children, because there are. But to say that all Balkan men don't respect women is downright retarded and only spouted by idiots who don't know anything about the Balkans, people who've grown up in abusive households thus they think every family is like their family and people with political agendas. ^ Agreed. And mapko said it pretty well, about trying to keep the same culture and passing it down. +1 Also illyria, if you really love other races (africans, asians) why don't you marry a black guy and be an example to the Balkan people. lol @ culture, no such thing, people live the same no matter what culture.. i'll be honest here... I'm not a nationalist in the balkan sense... i would date almost anyone, probably not blacks.... but I think i would marry only non-religious europeans, preferably Bosnians, Croats or Serbs... but all in all, all ppl are the same, so it doesnt matter... ppl should fuck who they want, lol
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Post by Trazi Vise on May 14, 2009 11:46:54 GMT -5
Why are most here pointing out only black and Asians? There are other cultures and races different to ours also, which I am open to...you know South American, Islander...oh and even Aussie is foreign to ours. It's not about being an example, it's about being open to whom you may share your life with, i.e with someone who is not the same as you; you may actually learn more than being with someone who is the same. Just a thought.
Good luck also trying to preserve your languages and cultures in the diaspora especially when your future children are born there also, trust me it doesn't work even if you marry someone of the same language. We are all examples of this. Just another thought.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 14, 2009 12:00:52 GMT -5
Why are most There are other cultures and races different to ours also, which I am open to...you know South American, Islander... I bet you are.
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Post by malsor4life on May 14, 2009 12:16:14 GMT -5
Why are most here pointing out only black and Asians? There are other cultures and races different to ours also, which I am open to...you know South American, Islander...oh and even Aussie is foreign to ours. It's not about being an example, it's about being open to whom you may share your life with, i.e with someone who is not the same as you; you may actually learn more than being with someone who is the same. Just a thought. Good luck also trying to preserve your languages and cultures in the diaspora especially when your future children are born there also, trust me it doesn't work even if you marry someone of the same language. We are all examples of this. Just another thought. We know you are "finished", you dont have to tell us the obvious. But you dont have to be all condescending to those who wanna preserve their culture. Because u know ur basically flushed down the drain lol, it seems you wanna drag as many ppl down with you.
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Post by chalkedon on May 14, 2009 12:22:00 GMT -5
^^ whatever mehmet...spreading legs to 500 years of ottoman schlong and your gonna preach purity.. youre living in a dream...
anyway, i dont see what it so controversial in what illyria is saying. You want to keep the same culture ? Go to your mother countries if your not there already...
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Post by insomniac on May 14, 2009 12:32:16 GMT -5
Let's not go into Ottoman thing. There's a reason why Greeks are so dark. Shows who spread the legs and who didn't...
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Post by malsor4life on May 14, 2009 12:36:35 GMT -5
^^ whatever mehmet...spreading legs to 500 years of ottoman schlong and your gonna preach purity.. youre living in a dream... anyway, i dont see what it so controversial in what illyria is saying. You want to keep the same culture ? Go to your mother countries if your not there already... Contrary to greek and serb propaganda, Albs rarely intermarried with Turks during the Ottoman era. There are hardly any Turks living in Albanian lands today, whilst there are plenty in Greece. In fact you look precisely like Turks. If it looks like a duck... Btw, my name aint Mehmet lol
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