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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jan 14, 2010 12:24:48 GMT -5
You know how when u see a dance from the Balkans and surrounding regions you say, oh wow that looks like a dance from my country etc... well I am going to post some Turkish dances and ask you guys whether there is anything similar in your countries. There should be an international Balkan dance btw, that would be some funky flexing.. (I have put some dances that I find really dumb also .. but fun at the same time )
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 12:43:15 GMT -5
The most similar of those is the zeibekiko dance,which have some common characteristics with the zeybek, but its very different, especially its rhythm. And if i know well the zeybek dance is danced in the Aegean costs, right....?
and ladies dance cifteteli, but it's considered more tourkogypsy...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jan 14, 2010 12:52:20 GMT -5
Zeybek is danced by the EFE's I think of the Aegean reagion.
This is a Roman Dance (gypsy dance)
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jan 14, 2010 12:53:43 GMT -5
do you have Ciftetelli videos?
I looked for some from Turkey couldnt find anything really.
Adana Ciftetelli is very famous, but they aren't Gypsies unless u r trying to call me a gypsy, which I am not.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 16:49:00 GMT -5
take a tsifteteli by a Tourkala...:
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 16:54:05 GMT -5
Balkan dances are pretty lame. Lets all move in a circle for an hour. Its says a lot about a dance when a 50 year old man can do it properly ;D.
Anyway, I noticed one dance everyone does during a wedding: bride and groom dance together while the father throws bills at them. The DJ always collects the money.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 16:58:30 GMT -5
Napoloni... the most common dance at any Albanian wedding.
Its probably my favorite because it actually has life in it:
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 17:18:47 GMT -5
Napoloni... the most common dance at any Albanian wedding. Its probably my favorite because it actually has life in it: these rhythms sound much balkan slavic, bregovic style. thats democratic... and i prefer balkan dances from this thing: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 17:25:34 GMT -5
do any Bulgarian here knows anything about this dance? What region it comes from?
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 17:42:38 GMT -5
Albanian Cham dance "Valle Kacaku" (Dance of the Brigand)
Osman Taka, hero i Konispolit (Hero of Konispol):
Bulgarian song (originally), Albanian dance:
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 17:57:17 GMT -5
Albanian Cham dance "Valle Kacaku" (Dance of the Brigand) this rhythm has nothing strong in it to be a war dance. Its too slow, nothing like a good Roumeliotiko/Moraitiko kleftiko: you dance eat...and you're ready to cut some Turkalvanous... ;D
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 18:00:09 GMT -5
Yea, your teaching us how to dance the dance we created ("Tsamiko")....
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 18:02:20 GMT -5
Shishtavec. Gorani (Muslim Slav) village in northern Albania:
across the border in Macedonia, Torbeshi :
Shishtavec is Albanianized while the Torbeshi are Albanianizing.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 18:08:59 GMT -5
Yea, your teaching us how to dance the dance we created ("Tsamiko").... i haven't seen any albanian dance similar in rhythm in what we call tsamiko or kleftiko... and btw tsamis in the previous centuries had except the meaning of the inhabitant of Tsamouria, and the meanings of the thief and palikari, hence the name... the dances of Epiros and Albania are too slow, the moraitiko/roumeliotiko/thessaliko and makedonitiko tsamiko is very unique: with rhythm 3/4... PS. I bet you will look very gangling if you try to dance a greek tsamiko... don't try it...
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 18:11:33 GMT -5
dances dont have to be the same. they can be adopted differently. Origin is in the name though.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 18:20:28 GMT -5
i wrote above about the name... and Chams were never in such numerical or cultural level that can spread something of their semi epirotized culture...
and the whole balkans call some of their dances horo or oro, that doesn't mean that they're greek dances.
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Post by thracian08 on Jan 14, 2010 18:26:14 GMT -5
I found this Eskisehir Ciftelli:
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 14, 2010 18:29:26 GMT -5
men dancing cifteteli isn't nice...its a bit weird...its better for hanum guzels to dance it.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 14, 2010 18:43:57 GMT -5
Nothing Epirotic about Chams. They are purely Albanian. Whatever small similarity is coincidental. In the end, its called "Tsamiko" not "Atsamiko"...
Horo is a word, Tsamiko is a designation of a group of people...
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Post by greek1234 on Jan 15, 2010 5:22:35 GMT -5
I never knew how similar Greek and Albanian folk dancing can be, we the Greeks played a vital role in their culture that is for sure.
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