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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 4, 2009 5:37:02 GMT -5
^ Ioan, who was Bulgaria's stimulous when it was almost dead?. Serbia never had a Serbian Exarchate operating and terrorising the vardarians!.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 4, 2009 5:40:47 GMT -5
To answer the topic.
Why do Greeks from Greece and Greeks from Cyprus look exact, l ask.
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Post by rusebg on Sept 4, 2009 6:04:26 GMT -5
Yep. You had kings, presidents and governments to do this job.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 4, 2009 6:25:50 GMT -5
^ tell us, if you can?
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Post by Arxileas on Sept 8, 2009 21:59:25 GMT -5
Macedonian Struggle was against BULGARIANS. If you wish open a thread in the Bulgarian forum. No I won't because I am on topic for the right reasons, one being is that it is part of their history... I am on topic and it does belong here and no one can deny their true heritage being Bulgar and Slavic, if not then possibly ex-Greek communists who fled from prosecution. I don't try, the archives cannot lie...See for your self the evidence and just 01% of it; www.hellenicplanet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=507NO ONE CAN DENY their Bulgarian roots as well as their Slavic ones. Huh ? After reading this I can certainly see what Ruse and ioan are on about on you, it is all clear to me now... .
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Post by Arxileas on Sept 8, 2009 22:16:09 GMT -5
And a protest in 1990...Can you see what flag it is that they are carrying right ?
For anyone's info I believe the Speaker in that youtube is "Risto the Great"
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 0:34:00 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 0:45:31 GMT -5
Arxilleas, open your eyes (a coffee might do you some good) and re-read the above TRUTH.
You will not escape that easily, just whistling indifferently and mentioning your close friends Ioan/Ruse, etc....
Speak as a greek if you can stand it.
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Post by Arxileas on Sept 9, 2009 4:19:40 GMT -5
ARE YOU DENYING the contribution of TWO vardar divisions in the Yugoslav army, their stay/restoration/healing in Corfu and their participation in the Thessaloniki front? www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/kane/51/history/servoi.htmlLOL. Who is denying what ! who was even talking about this till you brought it out of the blue and entirely irrelevant to the topic to begin with, I tried correcting you BUT nope you keep going. We were talking about the Macedonian struggle in 1903 at a time when they the Macedonians were Bulgarians “they have changed identities like socks”, they were the very Bulgarians during that time is my point and you bring in this, what has this got to do with anything on this topic nor have I denied in my life the Serbs contribution or heroism as our allies never. Its people like you who creates divisions btw Greeks and Serbs not a good deal. Mate you bring in matters which are completely out of context to a discussion why ? There are no such things as political forum friends only brown nosing
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 4:29:28 GMT -5
Aha, so TWO VARDARIAN divisions (Vardarska, Bitoljska) fighting as a MAJOR ally on our side and against the austro-bulgarians you are talking about is something IRRELEVANT?
All facts must be mentioned when we examine history, not only the ones which serve someone's dirty nationalist filthy dreams, which result in isolation and dependent economies.
"Its people like you who creates divisions btw Greeks and Serbs not a good deal. Mate you bring in matters which are completely out of context to a discussion why ?"
WTF, are you talking about? And how the makedonian struggle against BULGARIANS is RELEVANT to Slavo-MAKEDONIANS, while WWI and the events in Corfu/Makedonian front (in which Slavo-MAKEDONIANS took an ACTIVE role) ARE NOT?
Twist your head a little Arxilleas... BTW what does "Arxilleas" means, was there ever a name like that? is it "arksilleas" or "arhilleas"?
PS Until you dispute what the MUSEUMS/books/monuments say and write , i will assume that you are aware and fully ACKNOWLEDGE the HELP OF THE SLAVO-MAKEDONIAN NATION TOWARDS GREECE in First World War.
thanx.
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Post by Arxileas on Sept 9, 2009 4:50:32 GMT -5
Originally started from this; Some come in here and start calling them self's an identity which belongs to the Hellenic Republic nation and its people and you want me to except these insults to go unnoticed on me and some 2.5 Million Greek Macedonians who's recent ancestors bled the Macedonian lands fighting your recent ancestors the KOMITZI's the Bulgarain bandits. I guess your ancestors forgot to tell you how dynamic our resistance is ax re tsk tsk...I have also shown you U.N documents which state; Has gone to this; Aha, so TWO VARDARIAN divisions (Vardarska, Bitoljska) fighting as a MAJOR ally on our side and against the austro-bulgarians you are talking about is something IRRELEVANT?
All facts must be mentioned when we examine history, not only the ones which serve someone's dirty nationalist filthy dreams, which result in isolation and dependent economies.
"Its people like you who creates divisions btw Greeks and Serbs not a good deal. Mate you bring in matters which are completely out of context to a discussion why ?"
WTF, are you talking about? And how the makedonian struggle against BULGARIANS is RELEVANT to Slavo-MAKEDONIANS, while WWI and the events in Corfu/Makedonian front (in which Slavo-MAKEDONIANS took an ACTIVE role) ARE NOT?
Twist your head a little Arxilleas... BTW what does "Arxilleas" means, was there ever a name like that? is it "arksilleas" or "arhilleas"?
PS Until you dispute what the MUSEUMS/books/monuments say and write , i will assume that you are aware and fully ACKNOWLEDGE the HELP OF THE SLAVO-MAKEDONIAN NATION TOWARDS GREECE in First World War.
thanx. See how you come in and start a division btw us Greeks and Serbs with completely irrelevant stuff pulled out of thin air when I did no such thing... Thanks for the unwarranted insults to me .
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 5:13:23 GMT -5
"See how you come in and start a division btw us Greeks and Serbs with completely irrelevant stuff pulled out of thin air when I did no such thing..." no, pls show me. As Nikola had observed i am the ONLY greek not creating divisions. (inter Serb-Greek division? LOL, you cannot even distinguish a Slavo-Makedonian from a Serb for christ's sake!!) "Thanks for the unwarranted insults to me" i was careful to NOT insult you. The question about Arksilleas vs Arhilleas stands.
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Post by rusebg on Sept 9, 2009 5:14:37 GMT -5
I don't understand what you posted, Pyrro, but let me ask you one question. I checked through some Macedonian sites about possible participation of Macedonians in the serbian army. Not a single result for this. And despite their habit of stealing Bulgarian history and very hostile feelings toward us, there is information about Macedonian volunteers (note that, Pyrro, volunteers, not forcefully made to join the army as in the case with serbs) in the Bulgarian army, as well as a whole division of about 35 000 men, all from the Republic of Macedonia, with their commanders being Macedonian Bulgarians as well. Why is that?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 5:20:35 GMT -5
"Why is that?" because Internet does not show: THE CORFU MUSEUM (where you can find names, birth places, monuments) BOOKS DETAILED FACTS about the composition of the yugoslav army
Internet is virtual world dude.....
Besides, current Macedonian TREND is 100% anti-greek, and their master's forbid them to talk about Yugosloavia (altho their everyday life, music, etc... is in 100% accordance and in touch with the rest of the ex-yu country), so as you understand, it would be rather bizzare for Macedonian sites to advertise ..... contributions to the creation of yugoslavia... i mean the tanks would go out of Bond Steel and shoot anyone in sight, you know what i mean?
good.
PS In your "Internet" i never found any source saying that Pejcinovic was SERBIAN either!!! you know what i mean? Truth is not about who writes faster the more lies...
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Post by rusebg on Sept 9, 2009 5:24:55 GMT -5
And 100 % anti-Bulgarian, although the issues are different.
No such contribution whatsoever, Pyrro. Wake up. Or go learn some real Macedonian history for a start. Actually, the history of that area and the people, not this joke of a country.
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Post by rusebg on Sept 9, 2009 5:34:07 GMT -5
One Serbian joke for you, Pyrro:
What is left after you bath a Macedonian? Dirty water and pure Bulgarian.
Now go and change Serbian folklore in order to suit your views.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 6:06:07 GMT -5
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Post by rusebg on Sept 9, 2009 6:26:53 GMT -5
Pyrro, do you read what you post? First, alongside Macedonians in the Serbian army, Albanians are mentioned, too. Do you claim that Albanians wishfully joined this army as well? Or it is just the fact that they were forced to join it for the simple reason they were under Serbian rule?
Second, this is what is says about Korfu:
Íåêèõ 145.000 ñðïñêèõ âî¼íèêà ¼å åâàêóèñàíî íà Êðô ãäå ¼å, äî 15. àïðèëà 1916. ãîäèíå, îáíîâšåíà Ñðïñêà âî¼ñêà ïîä êîìàíäîì âî¼âîäå Ìèøèžà, ñà ãåíåðàëîì Áî¼îâèžåì êàî íà÷åëíèêîì ãåíåðàëøòàáà. Îôîðìšåíå ñó òðè àðìè¼å, ñâàêà ñà ïî äâå îáíîâšåíå ïåøàäè¼ñêå äèâèçè¼å 1. àðìè¼à (ïóêîâíèê Ìèëîø Âàñèž), 2. àðìè¼à (âî¼âîäà Ñòåïà Ñòåïàíîâèž) è 3. àðìè¼à (ãåíåðàë Ïàâëå £óðèøèž Øòóðì); îâà ïîñëåäœà ¼å ðàñôîðìèðàíà 28. ìàðòà 1917. ãîäèíå. Ñâàêà äèâèçè¼à ñíàãå 20.000 šóäè ñå ñàñòî¼àëà îä 3 ïåøàäè¼ñêà ïóêà (ïî ¼åäàí ïðâîã, äðóãîã è òðåžåã ïîçèâà), ñâàêè ïóê îä òðè áàòàšîíà ñà òðè ÷åòå è ¼åäíèì ìèòðàšåñêèì âîäîì. Ïîñòî¼àî ¼å è åñêàäðîí îä 150 êîœàíèêà; ïóê ïîšñêå àðòèšåðè¼å (ñà òðè äèâèçèîíà ïî äâå áàòåðè¼å); è äèâèçè¼ñêå ñëóæáå, äâå èíæèœåðè¼ñêå ÷åòå è èíæèœåðè¼ñêè ïàðê; ïåêàðñêà è çàíàòëè¼ñêà ÷åòà; äâå êîìîðå; ìåäèöèíñêà ÷åòà è òðè ïîšñêå àìáóëàíòå.
I am not sure whether you understand this but is says absolutely nothing about any macedonians, simply about 145 000 Serb soldiers.
Third, your Vardarska division that you are so proud of consists of 12 000 people, without a single mentioning why their ethnicity is. How did you come to the conclusion they were Macedonians?
Great source, no doubt about this. Is this your best one?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 9, 2009 6:58:24 GMT -5
Ruse, the divizions were named after the respective regions, stop being so stupid just for once. You know pretty well who served in the Vardarska/Bitoljska Divizions
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Post by rusebg on Sept 9, 2009 7:04:16 GMT -5
I don't know, Pyrro. A name of the division doesn't mean the people who serve in it are from the same area. And stop presuming something and present it as a fact, because this is what your source is. It proves nada. It says nothing to confirm your point. A better source, once again?
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