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Post by macmako on Jul 20, 2010 9:25:27 GMT -5
If you would like to spend all your time on these forums, be my quest. As for me, I have a life, and part of that is to stop wasting my freakin' time with an idiot like you. Was für ein Haufen Scheiße! Later, dude.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 9:38:47 GMT -5
As a person from London, which has a much larger GC community than Germany, I can assume I have had contact with many more Cypriots than you have ever had. If I speak on this issue its through true communication and not dinner table stories. Many Greek Cypriots, want nothing to do with Greece and do not say they are Greek Cypriot, but only Cypriot. Turkish Cypriots also used to do this, up until the results of the poll for the Annan plan, after this they called themselves Turkish more than Cypriot. However just to give you a nice visual internet proof: www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Im-not-Greek-Im-Cypriot/123189447714793?v=wall&ref=search This is a page that has been set up, 900 members on this site ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Another one set up by Turks with Lots of Greek Cypriot members also www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115923511770171&ref=search#!/group.php?gid=115923511770171&v=wall&ref=search enjoy..... and see the reality... join with Greece? wait a few years and see what the Cypriots will think about you ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I'l never forget my friend at uni's face, when I told her, I don't mind to marry a Turk from Turkey, she said, If I marry a mainland Greek my dad will disown me.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 9:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 20, 2010 10:44:18 GMT -5
Read what Im writing and dont talk out of your arse... Such Cypriots are a minority and (much more important) such ideas developed after 1974...because the Cypriots did suffer from the turkish invasion more than anyone else. Before 1974 every single Greek Cypriot wanted the unification...as I said there was a referendum...and 97% of the Cypriots voted for a unification with Greece. Thats a fact. I have a cousin for example whose mother is Cypriot... Now this modern crap "there is only a Cypriot people, no Greek, no Turkish"...this is ridiculous stuff by immature people who as I already said can not live with the consequences of the failed enosis-movement their parents and grandparents themselves were supporting.....if there is one Cypriot who says he is not Greek, there are 20 others who say the opposite. ...and he can not say a single word in Greek... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 11:06:59 GMT -5
How many Cypriots do you actually know?
your one cousins mums family LOL
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 11:07:44 GMT -5
Where is this referendum? give me the link ...
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 20, 2010 12:22:16 GMT -5
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 14:43:11 GMT -5
Ha ha ha, this is your source?
How little you know about the subject. In fact the referendum didn't ask TC their opinion. The referendum was held in CHURCHES to start with, and still today the Referendum is kept in a church in Cyprus, I don't remember the town right now, but I can find it. You can see the original there. The Referendum made the TC decide to support the British in case the right wing GC tried to go through with Enosis.
You are the one who lacks knowledge about this subject, go and learn about a subject before you try to give your mickypedia sources, all user abused facts, better off in Disney films... all fantasy.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 20, 2010 14:53:21 GMT -5
blabla dont open your mouth too much if you are clueless.
It was not really a referendum but a signature initiative.
215.108 signatures were collected out of 224.757 elective people Cyprus had as a whole at this time. This means 95,7% of the islands elective population signed for a unification with Greece...this does automatically mean that also Turks did sign. This is no fantasy this referendum took place and these are the numbers.
Also...the fact that the Brits did refuse to allow an official referendum speaks volumes.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 17:01:54 GMT -5
ignorance is bliss for stupid kasto. It was in the Church, the Turks joined with the Brits, The referendum doesn't have Turkish names... etc etc etc,,,,
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 20, 2010 17:09:25 GMT -5
It should be noticed that also several Turkish Cypriots signed for the enosis.
Do you think these are lies? Why should they...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 17:21:12 GMT -5
THE REFERENDUM WAS HELD IN CHURCHES. THE TURKS JOINED THE BRITS AGAINST THE ENOSIS MOVEMENT. THERE AREN'T ANY TURKISH NAMES ON THE PETITION WHICH IS IN A CHURCH IN CYPRUS.
get this into your head....
Why would the Turks want to leave Brit rule to be under Greece Rule,, it isn't even logical. How can you even imagine this to be true, are u like a sponge sucking up every lie, don't you ever question the propaganda you are fed.... pathetic,
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 20, 2010 18:00:39 GMT -5
You know I would respect if you had an argument such as: The Greek Cypriots were the majority therefore their choice should be respected. A solution should have occured etc... but your argument is that TC also signed what you call a referendum, which was in fact a petition organised by the GC Church. Between 15th - 22nd of January of 1950, with the initiative of the Churchs in Cyprus, the referendum for union with Greece was conducted. 95.7% of the population went to the churches and signed the referendum. www.geocities.com/helleniccyprus/eoka.htmlJanuary 15: The Church of Cyprus organises a referendum as to the future status of the island colony. 97% of all participants vote for Enosis with Greece. wiki.phantis.com/index.php/1950Quote: In 1950 the Greek Cypriots overwhelmingly (96 per cent) decided by referendum that Cyprus should be united with Greece. The prime Minister of Greece Nicolaos Plastiras, however, declined to meet a very high level delegation from Cyprus, which was going to hand over to him the official results of the referendum. www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=25651&cat_id=1Quote: In January 1950, moving swiftly to pre-empt this initiative, the ethnarchy organised its own plebiscite, held in churches across the island, to which AKEL rallied. The result left little doubt about popular sentiment: 96 per cent of Greek Cypriots – that is, 80 per cent of the population of the island – voted for Enosis. www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n08/print/ande01_.htmlQuote: In 1948 the bishop of Citium of Cyprus, Mihail Mouskos, began to organize support for enosis through the Church of Cyprus to exclude communist influence and to restore the temporal power of the church. In January 1950 the British authorities refused his request for a referendum on enosis. Yet when the church hierarchy polled the Greek community, 95.7 percent favored union with Greece. encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761578820_6/Cyprus.htmlQuote: The movement of Greek Cypriots that advocated union [enosis] with Greece gained momentum in 1950, when an unofficial referendum for self-determination showed that 96% of the Greek population favoured enosis. ec.europa.eu/education/policies/lang/languages/langmin/euromosaic/cy_en.pdf Almost all sources conflict, most of them state it was a referendum voted on by GREEK cypriots, NOT TC.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 21, 2010 1:34:30 GMT -5
How can you know that there were no turkish names among all signatures? Have you read all? There is no propaganda behind it...the turkish votes dont give or withdraw any significance of the referendum's result. Anyway...this as for Greek Cypriots not wanting the enosis... Im sure that even today if they had totally free choice without the turkey- thread the absolutely vast majority would vote for the unification with Greece. Just many say no because they are afraid of what happened in 1974 to repeat...one day the Turks will be treated the same way by a 10 times bigger nation from them...and they will pay for what they are doing to others in their own coin.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 21, 2010 5:00:34 GMT -5
Today Cyprus has no plans to join with Greece at all. Especially after Greece's financial crisis lol.
One day the Turks,..... blablabla...
this is just your personal dream.. hasn't any relevance to the debate, and as usual your myths about history debunked. Good day.
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Post by macmako on Jul 21, 2010 6:11:02 GMT -5
A Greek Cypriot speaks:
"I know the story of my country, I know that as G/Cypriots we paid for all of our mistakes since 1974, what I dont understand is why do we have to continue paying this prize. The Turks wants to have everything now as this was their strategic target from the beginning. I dont believe that G/Cypriots has to lose anything else anymore, we already lost half of the Island. Now all we have to do is just stop giving and leave the "TRNC" regime to work its self out of its isolation."
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Post by macmako on Jul 21, 2010 6:18:20 GMT -5
What did Nikos Sampson think of enosis and the Turkish Cypriots? He told everyone by saying:
"“Had Turkey not intervened, I would not only have proclaimed Enosis, I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus as well.”
***According to the Greek daily newspaper Eleftherotipia, during a 26 Feb 1981 interview.***
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Post by chalkedon on Jul 21, 2010 8:56:49 GMT -5
Demo, i wouldnt support the Turks on this one too much. Niko Sampson may have wanted to annihilate the TC's but the Turks not only wanted, but succeeded in annihilating the Armenians. So when we talk about Cyprus, lets put things in perspective here.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 21, 2010 8:59:14 GMT -5
The so called referendum, which was held in Churches, supervised by priests, and in fact was a petition by the church, without any British/TC support is at the kykkos monastery in Cyprus.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 21, 2010 9:58:02 GMT -5
Almost the whole island's population did sign this petition...all Greeks wanted the enosis....can you tell us why the british and turks did not support it? I thought cypriot Greeks have an antigreece-attitude...so what were the minorities afraid of?
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