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Post by theyshoothorses on Aug 27, 2011 10:00:41 GMT -5
Albanian population is local genetically speaking and I do not dispute that ....<snip> I am not saying that Albanian populace is non-Balkan in origin which clearly genetics if anything else prove that they are Balkanic in origin. Admin, you are slipping, man. That is the only part of your post that holds true and that even you could not deny. The rest is the most illogical flight of deductive reasoning I have ever seen. I do not have the time to do this right now, but I will come back later and post some better sources about the Albanian language. In the meantime, I'll leave this thread in the capable hands of Uz, in his quest for the true meaning of the double headed eagle (Q already told us about its otherworldly origin). I am sure minds with a sharper edge than mine have noticed the irony that Uz would rather believe in aliens visiting ancient earth but not that the Albanians are native to Balkan. |
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Post by uz on Aug 27, 2011 10:55:18 GMT -5
^yes, b/c accepting the possibility of one thing (aliens exist in some sort of form) means to accept that Albs are indigenous to the balkans. Is this the logic you are trying to operate? Let me ask you, i know they shoot horses, but do they laugh and grieve as well?
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Edited due to intentional misunderstandings.
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Post by odel on Aug 27, 2011 12:10:28 GMT -5
^yes, b/c accepting the possibility of one thing (aliens exist in some sort of form) means to accept that Albs are indigenous to the balkans. Is this the logic you are trying to operate? Let me ask you, i know they shoot horses, but do they laugh and grieve as well? What he's saying is that you're able to accept something much less likely as truth instead of something that is much more likely, and he's right it truly is ironic that you will readily accept that Aliens have visited earth but not that Albanians are native to the Balkans. You were able to accept one members silly linguistic "evidence" against Albanian-Illyrian continuity you accepted that without even thinking critically against it, however when it's about something that supports Albanians being Illyrians or just native to the Balkans you just deny it without really giving any critique that is thought through. Aadmin is a similar case. He believes that the Latin words in Albanian is due to the Normans, and not due to Albania obviously having been under the rule of the Romans for a very long time while the Normans were in Albania only for a brief period not long enough to have any considerable influence on the Albanian language. However, Aadmin chooses to believe in what is obviously the least likely explanation of the Latin words in the Albanian language instead of the most likely explanation. |
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Post by socio on Aug 27, 2011 13:02:22 GMT -5
As usual ... Admin is an idiot !
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Post by theyshoothorses on Aug 27, 2011 14:47:13 GMT -5
Let me ask you, i know they shoot horses, but do they laugh and grieve as well? Yes, when happiness is in our bed, sorrow is at the door. Laughing and grieving go hand in hand, following each other like the flow of a river, all-knowing and all-smiling, its source a place we know nothing about. Also, privacy is a precious commodity. As for the question of the leap of logic, it seems that Odel has grasped my meaning quite well. Now, as I said earlier, how come every scholarly source classifies Albanian as a genuine Indo-European language, while every young internet punk with a nationalistic hard-on wants to convince you it's just Chechen from Caucasus. www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Languages-Encyclopedias-Language-Linguistics/dp/0080877745  |
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Post by uz on Aug 27, 2011 16:06:32 GMT -5
^yes, b/c accepting the possibility of one thing (aliens exist in some sort of form) means to accept that Albs are indigenous to the balkans. Is this the logic you are trying to operate? Let me ask you, i know they shoot horses, but do they laugh and grieve as well? What he's saying is that you're able to accept something much less likely as truth instead of something that is much more likely, and he's right it truly is ironic that you will readily accept that Aliens have visited earth but not that Albanians are native to the Balkans. You were able to accept one members silly linguistic "evidence" against Albanian-Illyrian continuity you accepted that without even thinking critically against it, however when it's about something that supports Albanians being Illyrians or just native to the Balkans you just deny it without really giving any critique that is thought through. Aadmin is a similar case. He believes that the Latin words in Albanian is due to the Normans, and not due to Albania obviously having been under the rule of the Romans for a very long time while the Normans were in Albania only for a brief period not long enough to have any considerable influence on the Albanian language. However, Aadmin chooses to believe in what is obviously the least likely explanation of the Latin words in the Albanian language instead of the most likely explanation. New flash! I am in no position to say Aliens are real (I never saw one nor heard one)l, I only "beleive" in the possibility. Check my thread, you will find very little next to zero personal comments of my own. Anything I say based on aliens and/or UFOS's are based on official reports done by professionals in the feild, whether it be journalists, astronomers, scientists, government officials or government institutions and yes, some supossed witnesses too. - These are not my personal views, but I do beleive that we should be concidering what these people say, that is all. ps; Odel, did I make things nice and clearer for you, or do you need a picture book along side a user's manual to be able to follow? |
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Post by uz on Aug 27, 2011 16:12:52 GMT -5
Nicely put but irelevent to my point. I have already mentioned in this forum before that I am willing to accept that Albanians are "indigenous" to the Balkans, but again, I am in no position to give an ABSOLUTE "YES" or "NO" to this beleif, this is way beyond my feild of interest, to be blunt... I don't really give a fuk.
Side note; How can any people be "indigenous" to anywhere? At the moment we can only say that Africans are the only indigenous people to their land, Africa, AND THAT'S even argumentable. We can only go by what hi|s|tory tells us, and let's be real for a moment....they don't tell us much.
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Post by odel on Aug 27, 2011 17:58:48 GMT -5
LOL. Are you even trying to answer me properly? I couldn't care less if you believe in aliens or not, what I'm talking about is that you readily accept (as you say yourself) that aliens and UFO's have visited earth and done whatnot, Albanian-Illyrian continuity however is a no-no to you by all means.
One isn't supported by any real scientist, or at least the majority of them, the other is; however you decide to go with a theory not supported by scientists, while going against a theory supported by the majority of academia that has any say on that matter.
You aren't even able to answer my post and you're trying to pull of anything remotely close as to an insult on my intelligence? Tip: If you're going to try to insult someone on their intelligence don't do it without having any reason to call them stupid or anything similar, basically if the person didn't say or hasn't said anything stupid previously don't try to do what you just did.
Also, make sure the one you're insulting isn't smarter than you. That will help you not to make a fool of yourself.
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Post by uz on Aug 27, 2011 18:04:07 GMT -5
I called you out Odel, that's all I really did.
The possibility is up in the air for both; Aliens (existing) and Albanians (being indigenous to the Balkans). You put yourself in this position to compare these two elements, ignoring the ridiculousness behind it, nevertheless we move along.
The fact that you don't comprehend my stance, itself is stupid on your behalf, but it's fine I understand the inherit fire you have in you against Serbs. Who you trying to kid, this is what it's all about, right?
PS; We should stop vandalising AADMIN's thread, and take this to the Kosovo forum. lol
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Post by odel on Aug 27, 2011 20:40:21 GMT -5
I called you out Odel, that's all I really did. The possibility is up in the air for both; Aliens (existing) and Albanians (being indigenous to the Balkans). You put yourself in this position to compare these two elements, ignoring the ridiculousness behind it, nevertheless we move along. No, you're wrong. Life forms outside of Earth are sure to exist, the Aliens you think of are not. Albanians are indigenous to the Balkans by all means; that's why no Serb scholar ever questions Albanians being indigenous to the Balkans but argue instead that they just weren't Illyrians but Thracians/Dacians instead. This doesn't have anything with Serbs to do even. When did I even mention Serbs? And it's not like you've made any specific stance concerning my previous post, not one that actually had to do with my post at least. |
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Post by uz on Aug 27, 2011 20:51:50 GMT -5
whatever you say Odel  |
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2014 14:54:04 GMT -5
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Mar 30, 2016 0:52:49 GMT -5
Reminder how did Albanians appear in Balkan history.
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Post by rex362 on May 13, 2016 19:06:52 GMT -5
Reminder how did Albanians appear in Balkan history.
case closed ! |
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Post by dibrani on May 14, 2016 7:46:14 GMT -5
No Rex.. we were dropped by aliens in 11th century...hahaha
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Post by rex362 on May 14, 2016 14:07:35 GMT -5
No Rex.. we were dropped by aliens in 11th century...hahaha oh yes your right ....And through the the blue beam of light and then the ghost of Genghis Khan greeted us It is high treason for a Greek or Serb to acknowledge Albanians as descendants of the Illyrians
It keeps their conception of a Quasi Genetic unity of each of their races together -Fact
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Post by branislavnusic on Jun 30, 2018 4:59:02 GMT -5
Reminder how did Albanians appear in Balkan history.
case closed ! <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="6.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 18.720000000000027px; height: 6.399999999999977px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_43644051" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="6.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 6.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99724277" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="6.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 6.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 257px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57570302" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="6.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 6.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 257px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_9327379" scrolling="no"></iframe> Stop with the nonsense, Greeks are pelasgians!!!!!!! |
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 5, 2018 9:34:09 GMT -5
The recent Albanian expansion in Kosovo depicts the way that their initial settlement and expansion began in 10th cent.
And how from being refugees and guests slowly became majority .....
(btw same happened in Greek makedonia... Slavs were made minority )
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 29, 2018 5:18:26 GMT -5
The recent Albanian expansion in Kosovo depicts the way that their initial settlement and expansion began in 10th cent. And how from being refugees and guests slowly became majority ..... (btw same happened in Greek makedonia... Slavs were made minority ) Yep, even in Albania there aren't any Albanian toponyms, only Slavic Turkish and Greek, here are some examples: Elbasan - Turkish Tirana - Greek Durres - Greek Sarande - Greek Gjirokaster -Greek Pogradec - Slavic Korce - Slavic Berat - Slavic Fier - Italian Vlore - Greek Lezhe - Greek Skodra - latin |
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 29, 2018 11:53:03 GMT -5
The recent Albanian expansion in Kosovo depicts the way that their initial settlement and expansion began in 10th cent. And how from being refugees and guests slowly became majority ..... (btw same happened in Greek makedonia... Slavs were made minority ) Yep, even in Albania there aren't any Albanian toponyms, only Slavic Turkish and Greek, here are some examples: Elbasan - Turkish Tirana - Greek Durres - Greek Sarande - Greek Gjirokaster -Greek Pogradec - Slavic Korce - Slavic Berat - Slavic Fier - Italian Vlore - Greek Lezhe - Greek Skodra - latin
Tirana = who knows? Dures = ?? Lezhe = slavic Vlore = ??
Greek are for sure "Saranta", "Argyrokastro"
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