Greek and Albanian National costume !!

[Patrinos]

Nov 18, 2010 17:34:31 GMT -5 rex362 said:

Roman ......2nd century AD

ok guys...you made statues with your hats( ;D ;D ;D) and you couldn't write a little text in your language?

[Kanaris]

Oh Snap! No written language..... monkeys have no written language either.

[Kralj Vatra]

Unfortunately, it is true that the fustanela is fuckingly albanian, (like all the rest of at least 50% about Greece).
True Greeks (Pontians, Cretans, Cypriots) never wore this kind of thing.

[ace]

You are right True Greeks are Pontians, Cretans and Cypriots and they have traditional costumes of antique that Greece could have adopted, but instead they took Albanian costume. With this costume they had three choices to modified and make it theirs, 1 lower the fustanella further below the knee (that would have looked stupid), 2 keep it the same as Albanians but then that would have been obvious and last but not lest follow their “Homo” ancient past and lift the Fustanella above the knee and literally turn it into a skirt that everyone jokes about. This traditional warriors dress has become a laughing stock.

[ace]

Pyrros you should post traditional costumes of True Greeks (Pontians, Cretans, Cypriots)

[Kanaris]

[mansterofsouli]

Foustanella in Greek means "Greek skirt." Wtf Albo...!

[Patrinos]

Albo- 1737



Greeks-1486


Greek, 16th cent.


Cretan painting-16th century



Cretans, 16th century


Cretans, 16th century

[logjiktek]

Cretan Attire:





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[Patrinos]

:)Its

[atdhetari]

that's the Gheg tradional costum, everyone knows that, what's ur point?

[Patrinos]

That only south Tosks could wear traditionaly fustanela, who...accidentaly lived next to Greeks and Vlachs...

[atdhetari]

hence the dichotomous nature of the albanians which everyone knows about, listen i am not gonna waste my time arguing a bullsh.t argument, there is an abundance of material, evidence, drawings about albanians wearing the tradional tosk kilt, i don't have to convince your stubborn partially evolved brain, no amount of historical documentation will ever convince someone that is not willing to open their eyes, you were told it s greek and in ur eyes it will forever be such, i do not expect you to be civil about anything or concede that you may be wrong so there is no point in bothering with you, look at the arvanites for fuk's sake, their name blatantly states they are albanian, well once upon a time anyway, but you are adamant they are the most greek of greeks, its the same deal with fustanella, even your own academics say that the greek fustanella was adapted from the albanian counterpart. the problem its not even real greeks, whatever that means, but its halfblood mongrels of albanian arvaniti descent that downplay albanian culture and traditions and our rich heritage, its despicable scumbags like you that need to prove smth to the rest of the greeks.

keep playing the same old tune while we glorify and carry forward our language, traditions and heritage and you can live out the rest of your pathetic existance attempting to diminish our great nation, splash!

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By Paja Jovanoviæ depicting Northern Albanians, Gegs from Montenegro, Sanjak of novi Pazar and Kosova 17-18 century.

Study these images carefully especially the leg part, clearly he is wearing Geg trousers that Gegs in the 19 century and today normally day to day basis use.



And compare

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1910 Austrian-Hungarian photo cards depicting Albanians in Sanjak of novi Pazar, in the region of Pljevlja.



So Patrinos according to your thinking Tosks and Greeks have influenced Albanians in Sanjak of novi Pazar near Bosnia.

Accept it that Fustanella is ALBANIAN and you are borrowing it.




Enough said case closed, there are a lot of visual and written material proving that Fustanella is ALBANIAN.
From now on let others who are not Albanians or Greeks have their say on this topic.

[Patrinos]

Thats Gegs wore fustanella is bs. If somebody followed the fashion of the southern Tosks and Greek fighters(and not only) it doesn't mean anything.
Greeks wore different varietes of fustanella from the extreme south of Peloponnese to Macedonia, while the majority of the Arvanites wore "vraka".

And you continue posting bs claiming that Paja Jovanović depicts people of 17-18th centuries( : while he lived from 1859 to 1957...

What do you mean that fustanella is ALBANIAN...? that the fashion designer that created it was 100% Skiptar?
Its a natural evolution of the traditional clothing of south Balkan people during the late 18th century, maybe also due to Italic influence, hence the venetian name.

[logjiktek]

LOL even in 1916 the majority you were speaking Albanian. And today you have people like Karta and Patrinos talking shyt about us.
;D

[ace]

I agree with you that it is a natural evolution of traditional clothing that was introduced to the Greeks by the Albanian southwards migration in the 14 century onward but you must state its origin and accept that Fustanella as it should be (I’ve seen your previous picture, not every style of clothing that goes to the knee is fustanella) is Albanian and then we are ok, nobody is stopping you from wearing it.

Greek Professor telling the truth regarding the Origin of Fustanella

If there is anything interesting that he says can you Greeks tell us in this thread it might open up more discussions
Part 1

Part 2
(Follow it in YouTube there are more episodes)

I don’t understand Greek but translating peoples comments he also talks about our origin, something about we Albanians coming from the north to skopje and into Albania and that’s how we got our name, Regarding our origin and name he messes up big time.


I suggest that we Albanians and Greeks should leave it here for the moment regarding this topic and ask other forum members from other Balkan countries to do their research and post their findings on whether the Fustanella is Albanian or Greek.

[atdhetari]

you really think they don't know? half of this things they do not dare admit them to themselves let alone to others

[rex362]

so what should they all do claim serbianism like Pyrros ??