Proof ataturk was a Yörük Turkmen From balkan May 10, 2011 8:11:00 GMT -5
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 10, 2011 8:11:00 GMT -5
If there are Turks with red hair, green eyes and etc they're not pure Turks, it's simple. Those features are mostly derived from European sources and to some extent Caucasians surely. I would like to see any source that describes the Oghuz Turks as predominantly blonde thx. Seriously, people of Asian origin with blonde features? I think not.
Ok here you go:
The early Kyrgyz lived in the upper Yenisey River valley, central Siberia. Chinese and Muslim sources of the 7thЦ12th centuries AD describe the Kyrgyz as red-haired with fair complexion and green (blue) eyes. First appearing in Chinese records of the Grand Historian as Gekun or Jiankun, and later as part of the Tiele tribes, they were once under the rule of Gokturks and Uyghurs.
here is some more
Li Ling's Xiongnu descendants became part of the Xiajiasi/Jiankun Kingdom. The people of Xiajiasi were described in the 1060 historical work New Chronicles of the Tang Dynasty as "tall, red-haired, ... green-eyed; they regard black hair as inauspicious, and say that those with black eyes are descendants of Ling..."11
Xiongnu means Oghuz in Chinese.
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LOL. Being the most prominent historian concerning Ataturk doesn't imply that he's right about everything, especially something that doesn't have anything to do with Ataturk specifically but him saying that Balkan muslims didn't assimilate to become Turks, which is rediculous.
To assimilate there must have been some Turks around isn't that correct? whereas during the time Ataturks family lived there, Turks were not the majority
Again, lol. Only the oldest members of his family can speak Albanian (great-grandmother or something like that), neither he or anyone else in his family does so. And your logic is the distorted one, shows that you know very little about Balkan history at all, actually make that world history. Lrn2whatassimilationis.
Exactly correct, so, if Ataturks family was living in a mainly Greek/Bulgarian/Albanian area, why the heck would they be speaking Turkish? Who assimilated them the invisible Turks?
Care to show me where in Balkan history the whole of the Balkans assimilated and all spoke Turkish AT HOME as their ethnic language?
Oh, please. Get of your high ground and stop acting like you're the queen of England. Comments like these usually come from insecure, ignorant people just so you know. Educated people tend to behave in a very different way from you. As for the Albanian forums comment, I would like to say that I don't frequent any.
Looks like you also don't frequent any history lectures too.