Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 5, 2010 10:41:02 GMT -5
Crnogorci in my opinion have somewhat darker complexes then Sumadinci and they are somewhat taller. Not the big difference though Sumadinci blonder than CrnoGorci? In Kragujevac i didn't see any differences with Nis. In both cities you could see 2-3 guys looking almost totally like Greek, then a short guy or two, and then a tower over 200cm. Although *some* ppl in Nis were considerably darker (albeit not ugly, some girls were really dark (not gypsy) but very beautiful). Now in Bosna/Posavina i have seen lighter and taller people. Also in Visegrad, i remember the frequency of tall people was even bigger. I just dont think Sumadinci are blonder than Crnagorci. |
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Post by terroreign on Dec 5, 2010 23:42:08 GMT -5
 Sumadians, judge for yourself |
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 6, 2010 3:28:00 GMT -5
How about this one (kragujevcani)  |
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Post by rusebg on Dec 6, 2010 18:02:17 GMT -5
Due to the unbelievable preciseness of your observations, I have to agree with you.
Whatever the height, you had to stay on you knees only to give them proper blow-job.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 6, 2010 21:51:19 GMT -5
^ Khan Ruse-che, your sleep walking....AGAIN!. I'll help you back to your harem, there your slavic women will snap you out of your fantasies.
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 0:28:39 GMT -5
Sadly, i suppose in 50 years the old Serbian way of speech of those western Bulgarians will be lost. its dead already or to be precise: it was never born because western bulgarians have nothing to do with Serbs. However, they have lots in common with Torlaks. The Bosilegrad torlaks seem to agree (officially). |
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Post by terroreign on Dec 7, 2010 0:31:00 GMT -5
The Bosilegrad people are former Serbs who were brainwashed by Bulgar-Nazi occupiers in WW2, and today stay bulgarian through funds from Bulgarian NGO's and the Bulgarian Church It's pretty pathetic really, but money's money right  |
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 0:33:40 GMT -5
Touche lol...but since then I've actually researched and gotten more knowledge on the context of the linguistic situation there (also I've taken an intense Linguistics class at my university), and it definitely changed my perception on the subject. If you accept the scholarly belief that these languages/dialects "lost" their declensions, it would be safe to assume they once had them...thus Torlak did emerge from Serbian. no, because it developed the same way all other Bulgarian dialects did. Also, no matter that Bulgarian (OCS) used to have declensions, it still had unique Bulgarian features, not found in Serbian. Thats way Serbian is not considered direct descedant of OCS as Bulgarian is. Add to this that the first chance you got, you made your own recension of Old Bulgarian, putting in your serbian features. That happened centuries later of course... |
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Post by terroreign on Dec 7, 2010 2:06:12 GMT -5
So the Serbian features of Torlak, such as mi instead of nie, sve instead of vse, are recent? Somehow I have a hard time believing that.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 3:07:12 GMT -5
Due to the unbelievable preciseness of your observations, I have to agree with you. Whatever the height, you had to stay on you knees only to give them proper blow-job. What you say is not true, When in bulgaria i choose to sodomize your mother tho. |
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 3:07:56 GMT -5
So the Serbian features of Torlak, such as mi instead of nie, sve instead of vse, are recent? Somehow I have a hard time believing that. Necista Krv of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borisav_Stankovi%C4%87 was written in Torlakian in late 1800s, its a good source to see how eastern Serbian Dialects of south Serbia and western Bulgaria sounded like. |
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 5:25:39 GMT -5
So the Serbian features of Torlak, such as mi instead of nie, sve instead of vse, are recent? Somehow I have a hard time believing that. i m sorry, but what you believe and what happened are 2 different things. |
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 5:31:58 GMT -5
So the Serbian features of Torlak, such as mi instead of nie, sve instead of vse, are recent? Somehow I have a hard time believing that. i m sorry, but what you believe and what happened are 2 different things. if languages change that fast, then how can you prove that those people WERE speaking ANY Bulgarian word before the Bulgarian oppression from your exarhate? (pls dont repeat again the boring story of the monk from Pirot, for the 10000th time) By your logic, anything bulgarian related could be attributed to the exarhate. And this is logical. The small bulgarian influences might stem from that time. PS Idiot, we got you surrounded in your own vicious circle, and you struggle like a wounded antilope to get away. |
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 6:35:22 GMT -5
the only idiot around is you.
how small was the bg influence in torlakia we observe even today when the bosilegrad torlak people are declaring bulgarian in ethnicity. there are historic proofs that torlaks spoke and considered their language bulgarian.
the only person struggling her is you because your lies are unveiled one after another.
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Post by terroreign on Dec 7, 2010 6:35:24 GMT -5
^But we let him limp away because Serbs always had big hearts brate
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 6:37:27 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 6:54:07 GMT -5
^But we let him limp away because Serbs always had big hearts brate This is the classical Slavic customs regarding POWs. Slavs never destroyed their defeated opponents. (in contrast to the germanics/avars/mongols/etc...) |
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 7:04:58 GMT -5
blah blah blah, send him to the mad house immediately, he is dangerous.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 7:12:14 GMT -5
blah blah blah, send him to the mad house immediately, he is dangerous. mad house? you mean the headquarters of your "Ataka" political party? i certainly dont have any business with those Tatars! |
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Post by ioan on Dec 7, 2010 7:18:27 GMT -5
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;D : 