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Post by jean on Feb 14, 2011 21:38:40 GMT -5
Hello. I belong to another forum where we discuss peak oil (world oil supply running out), food and water supply issues, global economic collapse etc and how to survive it. The members are a mix of Europeans, Americans, and Australians. www.hubberts-arms.org/index.phpWe were discussing places in Europe that might be "liveable" in today's bad economy or even a collapse scenario, and someone suggested Montenegro. So we've been doing some research and have become interested in your country. That's how I found your forum, and I have enjoyed reading the threads here. A few of us (not hundreds or thousands, just 2-3 here!) in the U.S. are thinking of moving to Europe, because our country is turning into a corporate fascist state, we no longer have any voice, and we are fed up. So my question to you is this: If a smart, friendly American (an accomplished artist but not wealthy) who is willing to learn the local language (and would begin learning before he arrives) and is respectful and curious about Montenegrin culture and history arrived in Montenegro to rent a small apartment or small house with a yard for gardening, how would he be received? How much would it cost to arrive and live "like a student" in Montenegro for six months or a year? (rent, meals, utilities, internet). It doesn't have to be along the coast- the mountains look great too. It is impossible to determine cost of living from "rental websites" because they cater to tourists and rich people, so I am really hoping someone here who currently lives there can give me (and my friends at the other forum) a realistic idea of how much living in Montenegro would cost. Any other information- how Americans/outsiders would be treated, is food and water plentiful or scarce, is the current government stable, any other advice you have etc. - would be sincerely appreciated. Thank you.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 15, 2011 5:40:58 GMT -5
Jean, Montenegro is a very good choice as rising sea levels will not pose a major catastrophe. Montenegro offers citizenship to anyone willing to invest $300k into the economy I think it is. With a $300k investment you should be able to live like a king. Otherwise if you can gain citizenship via other means then it is an ideal place to set up a self sustainable home at very low cost. Away from the coast land is very cheap. Find some land near water, build your self an eco friendly home with solar power, learn to work the land and even if there isn't a global catastrophe you will surely lead a happy life. And since you are an artist you may be surprised at the healthy arts and crafts scene in eastern Europe. Music, film, theatre is very popular with Serbs.
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Post by jean on Feb 15, 2011 12:36:15 GMT -5
Thanks Arsenije for your reply, much appreciated. I just realized I posted this in the Montenegrin History subforum, not the general forum. Typical newbie . Sorry mods, please feel free to move it. I'll trim my question down to something more basic: how much does it cost to rent a small apartment or house in Montenegro these days? Not a tourist condo on the coast, just a normal residence with a small yard for gardening, perhaps in the mountains...?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 15, 2011 13:02:50 GMT -5
Jean Welcome to the forums. Mountains is a rather wide term and I am not sure what does that mean but I will assume in near proximity to the coast. Rent Montenegro - Enjoy finding your perfect Montenegro Rental
Rent Montenegro speacializes only in rental in Montenegro. Our goal is to become the rental market leader in Montenegro. www.rent-montenegro.com/Crna Gora Nekretnine (=Real Estate)
Nekretnine - Crna Gora - primorje i Skadarsko jezero. Bečići - Nekretnine Herceg Novi - Miločer - Žanjice www.crnagoranekretnine.com/ Nekretnine Crna Gora ...
Najnovije Nekretnine iz Crne Gore. Razdvojeni oglasi od agenata za nekretnine i direktnih vlasnika. Prodaja, izdavanje stanova, kuća i placeva. www.nekretnine-crna-gora.com/ In one massive thread inside a much larger Montenegrin forum there has been a thread on the same topic Nekretnine u CG www.madeinmontenegro.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=1015&page=1If understanding is a problem perhaps using google translator will help greatly (use Serbian or Croatian for local language, either works especially Serbian). translate.google.com/
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Post by captainalbania on Feb 17, 2011 2:09:52 GMT -5
What to expect living in the balkans? Obviously a little cheaper than living in the states, but not by much considering the entire economy is moving towards Euro usage. They are also not American friendly.
You're definitely going to be in for a culture shock. It'll be like you're Elijah Wood in that movie "Everything is Illuminated".
If i was an American considering living abroad. Montenegro would definitely not be my first choice. You should stay well away from balkans. Maybe Slovenia. Nice people there, modern, more central european. There are so many better destinations that are American friendly with easier languages, where you could get more for the money.
Argentina & Uruguay come to mind. I hear Buenos Aires is nice this time of year. Australia's not bad either.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 2:30:54 GMT -5
Jean - Arsenije is right just donate $300k, 1 easy payment of $300k and you sir will be treated like a sultan, like a dalai lama, just $300k....limited time offer ;D
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 17, 2011 9:50:16 GMT -5
Captainalbania is partially correct about Balkans.
There are already many people from England and other countries doing what Jean is thinking of doing and live on the coast. The coast is where I am assuming Jean wants to leave or in its close proximity.
Going anywhere further then that would be equivalent to experiencing a very big culture shock since you would be entering areas which are much more isolated from outsiders and where English speakers might be minuscule at best.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 17, 2011 9:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by zoti on Feb 17, 2011 11:00:25 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 12:22:58 GMT -5
Nice Valbona, where's her next stop Bangkok
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Post by rex362 on Feb 18, 2011 16:02:15 GMT -5
whats a gallon of gas average in Balkans ....$6 US ?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 22, 2011 10:06:32 GMT -5
... with 300 dollars you certainly won't live like a king ... you should have 400-500 EUROS to live a good life.Life is quite expensive, it's of course cheaper than in Europe (I compare with Europe, Bruxelles) but in comparaison, it won't be 4 x cheaper ... What are you saying here? Are you talking per month? Are you saying you can live well off 500 Euros a month?
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Feb 22, 2011 10:46:09 GMT -5
Hello. I belong to another forum where we discuss peak oil (world oil supply running out), food and water supply issues, global economic collapse etc and how to survive it. The members are a mix of Europeans, Americans, and Australians. www.hubberts-arms.org/index.phpWe were discussing places in Europe that might be "liveable" in today's bad economy or even a collapse scenario, and someone suggested Montenegro. So we've been doing some research and have become interested in your country. That's how I found your forum, and I have enjoyed reading the threads here. A few of us (not hundreds or thousands, just 2-3 here!) in the U.S. are thinking of moving to Europe, because our country is turning into a corporate fascist state, we no longer have any voice, and we are fed up. So my question to you is this: If a smart, friendly American (an accomplished artist but not wealthy) who is willing to learn the local language (and would begin learning before he arrives) and is respectful and curious about Montenegrin culture and history arrived in Montenegro to rent a small apartment or small house with a yard for gardening, how would he be received? How much would it cost to arrive and live "like a student" in Montenegro for six months or a year? (rent, meals, utilities, internet). It doesn't have to be along the coast- the mountains look great too. It is impossible to determine cost of living from "rental websites" because they cater to tourists and rich people, so I am really hoping someone here who currently lives there can give me (and my friends at the other forum) a realistic idea of how much living in Montenegro would cost. Any other information- how Americans/outsiders would be treated, is food and water plentiful or scarce, is the current government stable, any other advice you have etc. - would be sincerely appreciated. Thank you. Europe is following the same path as the U.S. Montenegro is one of the poorest countries in Europe so don't expect all the leisures there that you would enjoy in the U.S. I applaud you for considering options in your life even those 'outside the box.' Good luck in your future endeavors.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 22, 2011 15:28:26 GMT -5
... with 300 dollars you certainly won't live like a king ... you should have 400-500 EUROS to live a good life.Life is quite expensive, it's of course cheaper than in Europe (I compare with Europe, Bruxelles) but in comparaison, it won't be 4 x cheaper ... What are you saying here? Are you talking per month? Are you saying you can live well off 500 Euros a month? shejtani misread and thought I said $300...don't use the 'k' in Belgium probably Radiate..I'm sure he/she will just love bathing with water bottles...lol
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Post by odel on Feb 22, 2011 16:48:01 GMT -5
What are you saying here? Are you talking per month? Are you saying you can live well off 500 Euros a month? shejtani misread and thought I said $300...don't use the 'k' in Belgium probably Radiate..I'm sure he/she will just love bathing with water bottles...lol My family back home has buckets ;D
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