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Post by icon99 on Jul 31, 2011 18:44:38 GMT -5
Dear Colleagues. Any idea who this fighter may be or from which country he may have come from? I believe he was involved with one of the many conflicts that occurred in the Balkans in the late 18th century or in the 19th Century against the Ottomans. Could he be Greek with a Slavic background, such as the Meglen Vlachs, that were found in Eprius and Macedonia. Perhaps Serbian.,Herzegovian or Montenegrin ? There is a cypher on this painting as well. A coronet over what appears to be the letter M. There is also the number 1762. The style of the coronet might suggest a Duke( Voivode?) or a Baron or Earl. The 1762 could also represent the Souliote victory over the Ottoman Mahmoud Aga of Margriti the governor of Arta in 1762. The painting was done in the 19th century, more than likely by an artist that was trained in France or Munich. I would truly appreciate your thoughts on who the subject might be or from what country he was from. Thank you! Here is a link to my flickr account where photos can be seen! Thank you! www.flickr.com/photos/fortner_fine_art/
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Post by derk on Aug 7, 2011 16:16:18 GMT -5
i don't know but i think he is turkish or maybe moldovian. He shows distinct features of both of these people tbh.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 8, 2011 3:24:19 GMT -5
greko-arvanito-vlahs. I do not consider them as pure Greek. Pure greeks are only people like those : www.explorecrete.com/traditions/images/dagger-147.jpgThe ones with the clarinets and the flutes are vlahs, not greeks. Not to talk about the mentality or the language. So to answer your question, those people as self-called "ROMIOI" (romans), and they are ex-ex-greeks, ex-vlahs, ex-arvanites grekophones, but without much tradition or excellence in the usage of Greek language or spirit. Their poems are very few and short, their songs almost identical to south albania (n. epiros) and very similar to Roumeli, Thessaly, Epiros, western greece, etc... All medieval poetry in Greek was written in Crete island. THE ONLY TRUE GREEK PLACE. Also Cyprus is such a place with real Greeks, and the Pontians in mainland Greece. All rest (the majority) is just dirty, rotten albanians. But in any case we are slightly better than .... the real albanians..... thank God.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 9, 2011 5:36:33 GMT -5
LOL you stupid idiot, who is "he"? you got dozen pics in there, and every single of them is from the greek revolution against turks... You really are a helpless stupid gay...
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Post by ulf on Aug 9, 2011 5:38:05 GMT -5
pyrros, those people in the picture look ridiculously skinny, where are they from? Crete?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 9, 2011 7:09:08 GMT -5
pyrros, those people in the picture look ridiculously skinny, where are they from? Crete? which pic? mine or the OP's?
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Post by derk on Aug 9, 2011 7:17:40 GMT -5
you are clueless pyros...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 9, 2011 7:31:03 GMT -5
STFU
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Post by derk on Aug 9, 2011 8:01:59 GMT -5
very mature... what are you, 8?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 9, 2011 8:38:45 GMT -5
better being 8 than totally clueless (and gay).
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Post by derk on Aug 9, 2011 9:13:54 GMT -5
completely agree, too bad you are clueless tho
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 10, 2011 3:05:26 GMT -5
cant you read? "Athanasios Diakos? "Greek Souliote Figher" what was this nonsense about turkish and moldovian ?
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Post by Kastorianos on Aug 10, 2011 3:06:12 GMT -5
Pyrros I will delete all of your posts if you go on personally insulting people like that...you can keep your sick ideology but let other people have their own opinion. A single person can not terrorize a majority..who the hell do you think you are?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 10, 2011 3:33:44 GMT -5
Pyrros I will delete all of your posts if you go on personally insulting people like that...you can keep your sick ideology but let other people have their own opinion. A single person can not terrorize a majority..who the hell do you think you are? better now? i edited my post. Now i expect from you to deal in the same manner, (threaten of deleting ALL posts, etc...) with the rest of members. Also, please edit your own post (or delete them as well). You have been brought up in the most sick situation, being an albanian-vlah who acts like he speaks greek, so pls save your preaching to your self.
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Post by derk on Aug 10, 2011 3:39:29 GMT -5
what are you pyros? A Greek? A serb? A traitor Greek who thinks he is a serb?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 10, 2011 3:40:37 GMT -5
what are you pyros? A Greek? A serb? A traitor Greek who thinks he is a serb? suffice to say that i am more TRUE greek (intelligent) and more SERB (brave) than you.
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Post by derk on Aug 10, 2011 3:49:08 GMT -5
can't you be serious and mature for just a minute?
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Post by ulf on Aug 10, 2011 3:51:03 GMT -5
pyrros, those people in the picture look ridiculously skinny, where are they from? Crete? which pic? mine or the OP's? Yours
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 10, 2011 4:15:57 GMT -5
can't you be serious and mature for just a minute? with you, its done automatically. You are the only person in the 42 years that i am in this life who called me gay, so apparently not only are you completely immature but you have other issues as well. now pls.... i got other more important things to do.
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Post by uz on Aug 10, 2011 4:16:18 GMT -5
what are you pyros? A Greek? A serb? A traitor Greek who thinks he is a serb? suffice to say that i am more TRUE greek (intelligent) and more SERB (brave) than you. Greek and Serb are nationalities, not adjectives.
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