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Post by ivo on Sept 9, 2011 10:30:19 GMT -5
A peculiar Slavic-Mediterranean gene admixture is in the core of the Bulgarian nation, a new Bulgarian-Italian genetic study has revealed. Gene probes of 855 Bulgarians, including individuals from the country's Islam population, have been gathered and compared with other European nations, Professor Draga Toncheva from the Sofia-based Medical University has explained in an interview for the Bulgarian National Radio. The results have failed to show any Turkic connection in the Bulgarians nation's genesis, contrary to popular beliefs. Croatians, Poles, Ukrainians and other Slavic nations are closest to Bulgarians, according to the study. However, Bulgarians are a peculiar type of Slavs, since they also have Mediterranean genes, head of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences' Microbiology Institute Angel Galabov has pointed out. The Bulgarians' "peculiarity" has probably been the result of their contacts with ancient Thracians, scientists reckon. The place of origin of the Ancient Bulgarians is most likely Eastern Iran, a group of anthropologists and scientists claimed in 2010 after an exploratory trip to the Persian lands. Long-established theories about the making up of the Bulgarian ethnicity state that the Bulgarian nation was formed through the mixing of the Bulgarians with the local population made up of Slavs and some Thracians. Before 1989 the Bulgarians were believed to have been a minor tribe of Turkic origin. novinite.com/view_news.php?id=131894
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Post by ivo on Sept 9, 2011 10:40:51 GMT -5
The political manipulations of history in the past are beginning to surface, and as I've already mentioned, contemporary scholars are moving away from the Turkic/Mongolic theories of the past.
This tendency toward some supposed "Thracian" influence is a little off though. I mean, the Thracians played a role in our ethnogenesis but it was no where near as significant as some try to present it.
It's also ironic how different "genetic" studies show different results, which is why I personally have never placed too much emphasis on these.. I still think that most of these are not accurate, and they should in no way be used as a basis of an argument.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 10:57:17 GMT -5
You say you don't think genetic studies should be used as a basis for an argument, yet you use it for an argument. Okay, got it.
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Post by ivo on Sept 9, 2011 12:23:07 GMT -5
I'm not using it as an argument. I saw that Chentovist posted this in another thread, I read the article and decided to share it here.
What I've said, from a while back, is that neutral scholars who specialize on the matter these days are moving away from the Turkic/Mongolic theories of the past. This 'genetic study' seems to support these contemporary findings.
I really try to write in the simplest terms possible so that people like you can understand my posts, but even then it seems this is difficult for some of you.
Gyrro already asked me to make things "easier" for him and to write less, and I really try. I even suggested a 120 Ways guide for him to boost his brain power.. who knows if he'll listen.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 12:29:03 GMT -5
Freak, I understand what you say, but it still sounds stupid. This report is pathetic. A Bulgarian scholar trying to prove that his people are not Mongols. Then he says that Bulgarians are a "peculiar types of Slavs since they also have Mediterranean genes"--LOLz. That goes for all southern Slavs, so there's nothing peculiar about it; just like there's nothing peculiar about Russians having mixed with the Asiatic people of Siberia and eastern Russia.
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Post by ivo on Sept 9, 2011 12:44:46 GMT -5
Actually for the most part, Bulgarians and Macedonians have a look that is different from all other Slavs.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 12:55:21 GMT -5
Of course. I see a point in this study: they gathered and compared with other European nations almost 1000 gene probes of Bulgarians from all over Bulgaria. I dont think there have been such a big study of the Bulgarian gene pool. The results arent surprising but for some they definately are: Novi, Fuckittas and the other retards always played the mongolian card - well obvioslly it is based on nothing.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 13:01:26 GMT -5
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Post by elemag on Sept 9, 2011 16:40:12 GMT -5
Looking back to the history of your land, Mr RBE, note, your land, not your country, we will notice a massive flood of different Asiatic people. Let me name a few - Cumans, Pechenegs, Uz, Magyars, Tatars, etc. Where have you been during these invasions so that you managed to preserve your pure Daco-Roman blood?
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Post by ivo on Sept 9, 2011 20:18:51 GMT -5
Good point. All other similar genetic studies I've seen have used a much smaller sample. The most extensive I've seen thus far has been of just a little over 100 people. The sample space of this one is more than 8 times greater, and as such, I think it's fair to say that it is more credible than studies that have focused on smaller groups.
Those are remnants influenced by the communist version of our history. Again, I know you've got great difficulty reading, but I've already mentioned that neutral contemporary historians are moving away from the Turkic/Mongolic theories.
The fact that there hasn't been a single grave of an Ancient Bulgar to have shown Mongolic features shows that the Asiatic features that may be seen in Bulgaria today (and the Balkans in general) have most probably come from the Mongol invasions of Europe.
This study is yet another factor that supports the non-Turkic/non-Mongolic theories.
Anyway, like I said.. all is written, all is recorded. The only thing that needs to be done now is to remove the political re-interpretations of history so that the truth can be easily seen.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 10, 2011 4:57:54 GMT -5
I have no difficulty reading your crap: believing it is another matter. Your scholars simply don't know what the hell you used to be. In this clip taken from a documentary, your scholars look at cultural links between Thracians, Bulgars, and Koreans (lolz).
My favorite part is at 4.57 when she shrugs her shoulders when being asked what the Bulgars were. Yep, that's pretty much your identity right there: shrugging your shoulders. And when she tries to show the Mongol features by gesticulating (4.36) is also pretty funny.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 10, 2011 5:21:53 GMT -5
^^^ (thracian) gold.... fact is that the b1tches will turn to wherever the money is.... in front of germans they are the might Tatar-Avars... in front of the russians they are the bigger slavs ... and in front of the president of Toyota they become that most hard-core Budhists from Tibet...
pathetic....
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Post by Anittas on Sept 10, 2011 5:29:40 GMT -5
^^^ (thracian) gold.... fact is that the b1tches will turn to wherever the money is.... in front of germans they are the might Tatar-Avars... in front of the russians they are the bigger slavs ... and in front of the president of Toyota they become that most hard-core Budhists from Tibet... pathetic.... Lolz. Yep, the Bulgarian identity is for sale.
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Post by ioan on Sept 10, 2011 7:49:33 GMT -5
said the person whose nationality was unheard of till 10 century. The Romanians are the big question mark on the Balkans.
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Post by ioan on Sept 10, 2011 7:52:27 GMT -5
^^^ (thracian) gold.... fact is that the b1tches will turn to wherever the money is.... in front of germans they are the might Tatar-Avars... in front of the russians they are the bigger slavs ... and in front of the president of Toyota they become that most hard-core Budhists from Tibet... pathetic.... pathetic indeed... that those words come from a person that is one day greek, next arvanite, next vlah, next vlaho-arvanite, next serb, next slavophone greek, next greko-serb and the list will go on i m more than certain.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 10, 2011 8:36:08 GMT -5
^^^ (thracian) gold.... fact is that the b1tches will turn to wherever the money is.... in front of germans they are the might Tatar-Avars... in front of the russians they are the bigger slavs ... and in front of the president of Toyota they become that most hard-core Budhists from Tibet... pathetic.... pathetic indeed... that those words come from a person that is one day greek, next arvanite, next vlah, next vlaho-arvanite, next serb, next slavophone greek, next greko-serb and the list will go on i m more than certain. i've been consistently pro-cretan, pro-serb since day 1. you should be more than certain about one thing mongo : that all the world is laughing with your photoshop.
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Post by elemag on Sept 11, 2011 13:59:12 GMT -5
What is Day 1? The day of the malaka?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 15, 2011 9:57:40 GMT -5
BuLgari, BuLgari, BuLgari, why are you all so freaken stupid. Yes your mongol tribe originates from the Pamirs in Kirgizistan. The ancient indo-european tribe of BuLgarski Tocharians migrated from the Pamirs of Kirgizistan to China to invent fermented Horse milk, known to us by Asparuch as AIRAG.
"Before 1989 the Bulgarians were believed to have been a minor tribe of Turkic origin."
So freaken embarresingly funny, while their blood brothers the GAGAUZI OF BULGARIA CALL THEMSELVES HASLI OR ESKI BULGAR (Old and True Bulgars) LMAO
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 15, 2011 10:00:14 GMT -5
"(thracian) gold.... fact is that the b1tches will turn to wherever the money is.... in front of germans they are the might Tatar-Avars... in front of the russians they are the bigger slavs ... and in front of the president of Toyota they become that most hard-core Budhists from Tibet..."
Pyrro, you hit the nail on the head, the BuLgari are two faced, hence why their history is two faced and full of contradictions LMAO
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Post by ioan on Sept 15, 2011 11:58:28 GMT -5
Novi - you are contradiction yourself: brainwashed serbanized Bulgarian = Torlak!!! You can NOT even speak Serbian!!!
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