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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 12, 2011 6:16:11 GMT -5
These guys are Croats that live in Hungary, but call themselves "Bosniaks". Why? What's the history behind them? And does this strengthen the theory of Bosniaks being predominantly Croat before Islamisation? I find the complexity of the Yugoslavs really interesting, and their mixed history. And on an unrelated note, Zrinski looks like a badass in this painting.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 12, 2011 7:19:04 GMT -5
Hey , great thread !
Actually in Croatia itself you will find villages named 'Bosnjani' 'Bosna' and even in Vojvodina there is a small village called 'Mala Bosna' that was Croatian majority.
Bosnjak and Bosnjakovic are also very common names among Croats in particular , even more so than Bosniaks or Serbs combined ! Along with that you'll find Bosniaks with the last name 'Hrvacic' which I posted a while back ago such as the lawyer Esad Hrvacic and heaps of Bosniak 'Hrvacic's' on facebook. ( Just check it out).
A famous Bosnian Muslim poet , writer , and political activist Safvet Beg Basagic ( reveared in both Bosniak and Croat history) discovered a text written in the 15th century by an Arabic geographer and surveyor named Tahiri Aali who wrote about the people along the Bosna river in the Ottoman Empire. He described them as friendly and warm but most importantly as distinctly Croats.
During the Ottoman invasions , Bosnian Croat Catholics were particularly targeted and many of them fled Bosnia into the Hungaro-Croatian kingdom and later the AH Empire. Their remnants can be found in Slavonia , Hungary , and Austria but the impressive feat is that they still retained their uniquely Bosnian Croat identity which is the oldest of all the Bosnian identities.
Today its mostly irrelevant except for those few Bosniaks that haven't parted ways with Croats. Bosniaks are a mesh of many peoples including Serbo-Rascians , Turks , Vlachs , and others. They have their own identity which I see as closer to Serbian now anyways.
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 12, 2011 15:51:43 GMT -5
Interesting history, really complex though.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 12, 2011 17:13:30 GMT -5
I've spoken to both Serbians and Bosnians on this subject at hand, maybe Serbians have told me that the Bosnians are just them racially but Muslim ( because of the Ottomans ) and Serbians are Orthodox.
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