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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 17:48:16 GMT -5
Feel free to post videos or articles here and have some thoughts said about it.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 3, 2011 17:51:53 GMT -5
What's the point in it?
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 17:59:34 GMT -5
well, when Milosevic said "its made out of people", they obviously think of us as uncivilized idiots, even thought we had civilization here waaaay before them
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Post by uz on Dec 3, 2011 18:02:12 GMT -5
well, when Milosevic said "its made out of people", they obviously think of us as uncivilized idiots, even thought we had civilization here waaaay before them I remember that episode, Petoria lol. This is a normal thing with Family Guy, and to be honest I think the sacarsm presented in that clip shows the mokery assumption that "Serbs are uncivilised". We all laugh at that right? Who would take that seriously, besides an Albanian...
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 18:08:30 GMT -5
well, when Milosevic said "its made out of people", they obviously think of us as uncivilized idiots, even thought we had civilization here waaaay before them I remember that episode, Petoria lol. This is a normal thing with Family Guy, and to be honest I think the sacarsm presented in that clip shows the mokery assumption that "Serbs are uncivilised". We all laugh at that right? Who would take that seriously, besides an Albanian... Americans
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Post by srbobran on Dec 3, 2011 18:12:43 GMT -5
To be fair, shows like South Park and Family make fun of EVERYONE so I don't think its a valid example of anti-Serb discrimination. But yea, we are definitely portrayed negatively (with an intent to demonize us) in TONS of other Western media.
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Post by uz on Dec 3, 2011 18:13:45 GMT -5
Americans laugh cause it's a cartoon saying outrageous things lol. We laugh cause we know otherwise and understand the real-sarcasm being demonstrated there.
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 18:24:47 GMT -5
Americans laugh cause it's a cartoon saying outrageous things lol. We laugh cause we know otherwise and understand the real-sarcasm being demonstrated there. The bi@tches has constant need to involve us in their movies/"talk shows"/cartoons and other things in negative light, like srbobran said and I am being bothered by that. Anyway the way they constantly portray us certainly makes simple Westerner think of us as uncivilized
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Post by uz on Dec 3, 2011 18:27:41 GMT -5
Americans laugh cause it's a cartoon saying outrageous things lol. We laugh cause we know otherwise and understand the real-sarcasm being demonstrated there. The bi@tches has constant need to involve us in their movies/"talk shows"/cartoons and other things in negative light, like srbobran said and I am being bothered by that. Anyway the way they constantly portray us certainly makes simple Westerner think of us as uncivilized I agree, how many movies have come out where the Serbian was an evil terrorist with zero-moral/ethics etc.... This new one coming out Directed by Angelina Jolie is gona be the cherry-on-top. Apparently she plays a Bosnian-muslim woman who gets raped by a Serb soldier, then later falls in love with him. Then later this Serb turns against the Serbian stance and become pro-Muslim.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 3, 2011 18:32:38 GMT -5
well, when Milosevic said "its made out of people", they obviously think of us as uncivilized idiots, even thought we had civilization here waaaay before them Sure, I agree. The Greeks and Slavs brought culture and civilization to Europe.
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 18:51:20 GMT -5
well, when Milosevic said "its made out of people", they obviously think of us as uncivilized idiots, even thought we had civilization here waaaay before them Sure, I agree. The Greeks and Slavs brought culture and civilization to Europe. Wow, I am not saying we brought civilization to Europe. I am just saying that we had civilization of our own when USA and UK weren't even formed, and whats more important is that we kept this over all these years, and now we get some relatively newly formed "nation" to call us uncivilized
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 3, 2011 18:58:27 GMT -5
Well ofcourse that's what they say, they don't even run their own goverments. The Germans used to say it about Slavs also, Slavic people are ''racially inferior''.
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 19:31:04 GMT -5
Well ofcourse that's what they say, they don't even run their own goverments. The Germans used to say it about Slavs also, Slavic people are ''racially inferior''. Well, look, I really can't curse at Germans, and you know why But anyway Nazi's were definitively wrong there. Slavs might not gave so many scientific innovations to the world as Germans did, but you have to take the factor that Slavs always had wars of some kind(Balkan Slavs vs Ottomans, Russians vs Teutons/Swedes, Poles vs Ottomans, Russians vs Ottomans...), where as Germans were in better geo-strategic position, surrounded by "allies" so they had plenty of time to "waste" ;D
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 3, 2011 19:45:36 GMT -5
Well ofcourse that's what they say, they don't even run their own goverments. The Germans used to say it about Slavs also, Slavic people are ''racially inferior''. Well, look, I really can't curse at Germans, and you know why But anyway Nazi's were definitively wrong there. Slavs might not gave so many scientific innovations to the world as Germans did, but you have to take the factor that Slavs always had wars of some kind(Balkan Slavs vs Ottomans, Russians vs Teutons/Swedes, Poles vs Ottomans, Russians vs Ottomans...), where as Germans were in better geo-strategic position, surrounded by "allies" so they had plenty of time to "waste" ;D Yes, I agree.
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Post by uz on Dec 3, 2011 19:52:58 GMT -5
Well ofcourse that's what they say, they don't even run their own goverments. The Germans used to say it about Slavs also, Slavic people are ''racially inferior''. Well, look, I really can't curse at Germans, and you know why But anyway Nazi's were definitively wrong there. Slavs might not gave so many scientific innovations to the world as Germans did, but you have to take the factor that Slavs always had wars of some kind(Balkan Slavs vs Ottomans, Russians vs Teutons/Swedes, Poles vs Ottomans, Russians vs Ottomans...), where as Germans were in better geo-strategic position, surrounded by "allies" so they had plenty of time to "waste" ;D You cannot forget that the Balkan region especially the area inhabited by Slavs is the richest in natural ressources, whereas in Germany they have none and truly depend on industry/factory making.
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 3, 2011 19:55:52 GMT -5
How is "Family Guy" considered Western Media? It's a cartoon, it shows the opinions of the writers (who pretty much bag everyone). And in this case Serbs are under-represented in these shows compared to Americans, the British, Mexicans, Russians, Germans and Jews.
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 20:04:24 GMT -5
How is "Family Guy" considered Western Media? It's a cartoon, it shows the opinions of the writers (who pretty much bag everyone). And in this case Serbs are under-represented in these shows compared to Americans, the British, Mexicans, Russians, Germans and Jews. Right right, except if you take special care you will see Serbs as bad guys in every American media(maybe the cartoon was a bad example but I didn't made thread to debate this cartoon solely)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2011 20:06:12 GMT -5
You watch too much television. Get a life.
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Post by ulf on Dec 3, 2011 20:11:52 GMT -5
Well, look, I really can't curse at Germans, and you know why But anyway Nazi's were definitively wrong there. Slavs might not gave so many scientific innovations to the world as Germans did, but you have to take the factor that Slavs always had wars of some kind(Balkan Slavs vs Ottomans, Russians vs Teutons/Swedes, Poles vs Ottomans, Russians vs Ottomans...), where as Germans were in better geo-strategic position, surrounded by "allies" so they had plenty of time to "waste" ;D You cannot forget that the Balkan region especially the area inhabited by Slavs is the richest in natural ressources, whereas in Germany they have none and truly depend on industry/factory making. hm, for good industry you need to have good experts. That is good engineers and good craftsmen. That is German philosophy concerning industry and that's why they are good at it. When we were good in industry field we had both, now we lack good craftsmen. Also in Germany one person is in charge of everything(chief), and that's not necessarily the thing here. That's why they are ahead of us in industrial sense
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 3, 2011 20:13:31 GMT -5
Right right, except if you take special care you will see Serbs as bad guys in every American media(maybe the cartoon was a bad example but I didn't made thread to debate this cartoon solely) Serbia isn't a very big country. Americans only know of Serbia for the Yugoslav wars. It's like Russians with Communism and pet bears. They portray Russians as Communists and mafia-like, Germans as Nazis, the British as ugly and overly effeminate, the Irish as stupid rural drunks. That's how the writers portray these countries, by stereotypes. I don't think they care about how they really are, just as long as people get the reference. The cartoon (Family Guy) even likes to 'demonise' Americans and America. Shows like these only like to make fun of everyone they can think. If people find it funny, they'll add it to the show.
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