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Feb 11, 2012 17:23:35 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 11, 2012 17:23:35 GMT -5
"again no sources about this claim. We know you were reffered to as Vlachs. The romans were the Byzantines which were citizens of the Roman empire, not the Romanians. So the quotes doesnt concern the Romanians. Can you gives any proof that the Byzantines refered to the Romanians as Romans and meant actually Romanians? Waiting. Still havent seen such a source."
Listen, retard, our job is not to enlighten every single stupid Bulgarian who asks us for sources. We have posted such sources that you ask for where we were referred not only as Romans, but also as Dacians (even if the latter is obviously incorrect in identifying us as such).
"The romans were the Byzantines which were citizens of the Roman empire, not the Romanians"
You dumb MF! Aromanians who lived in the Byzantine Empire and, who even managed to lay the foundation of their own state, were also Roman citizens; and were also referred to as Romans. Get the F out, you dumb bytch! You bloody Mongol bred, get the hell out of here!
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nicetas
Feb 11, 2012 18:58:06 GMT -5
Post by Catcher in the Rye on Feb 11, 2012 18:58:06 GMT -5
What does the Biertan Donarium proof about the people that lived north of the Danube? Nothing except that there might have been Romans living there or simply Avars or other savages who have captured Roman objects in their wars with them in the south? However resorting to artifacts found on once territory to fill up the vast gap is a tactic used by people .... with huge gaps in their history. That donarium is bronze, the barbarians were interested in gold, coins, not trinkets of no value. And what kind of history from those time do you have? Byzantine accounts of the raids of some long vanished Turk bands on their territory is your history? So the Romans were the Byzantines? And what exactly were these Byzantines? I think no one mentioned any Byzantines in those time. Were they Greeks? Were Balkans filled up with Greeks to the Danube? Then why Vulgata was the work of a Balkan born? The Clerics born N of Balkans that became famous like Saint John Cassian, Dionysius Exiguus, Aethicus Histricus, Niceta, all wrote in Latin. Flavius Aetius "the last of the Romans" was born on the Danube. Was he a Byzantine too? It's like this: the Balkan Romani started to be called somewhere around 900 with the ethic name Vlach, while they continued to call themselves Romani, a name which changed naturally with the time into Români. Romani/Români were called after 900, till modern times, by the foreigners with variants of Vlach until the Romani/Români of Moldavia and those of Muntenia united and imposed their true name to the world and reestablished Romania/România. What happened then? Nothing new under the sun, we got the same policy from the invaders. Exactly like they will not recognize that the Romani of 500 AD were the Vlahs of 900 AD, they say: Romania/România is a new country and by extension Romanians are a new people, they have nothing to do with the Vlachs, Vlachs are something else, Vlachs are not Romanians. See what happens with the Romanians living in Serbia or with those living in Greece.
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nicetas
Feb 11, 2012 21:00:16 GMT -5
Post by croatchessmaster on Feb 11, 2012 21:00:16 GMT -5
A bunch of Romanians whinning about their identity to their Slavic superiors, tell me something new hahahahaha bitchs... all you know how to do is whore, so whore for us and maybe will we show you mercy.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 3:31:42 GMT -5
Post by elemag on Feb 12, 2012 3:31:42 GMT -5
That's true. I've seen it may be hundred times. Still, I fail to see the word Romanian in any of the sources you provide. I doubt 'the heavy artillery" lol will provide it either. Now don't start explaining how Vlah equals Romanian because this is quite a joke. This is where you are wrong. There are four theories about the origin of Asens - Bulgarian, Vlah, Cuman and of mixed origin. No matter which one is true, the fact is that they did fvck all about Romania. First, because there was no such country, second, because everything they did, they did it for Bulgaria and all of them had Bulgarian consciousness. That is what matters. It would be the same if I now start pointing out how proud I am of the Bulgarian guy who wrote the Romanian national anthem. Why should I be proud of him? He did nothing for Bulgaria. The same with Asens for Romania.
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ioan
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Feb 12, 2012 4:46:48 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 4:46:48 GMT -5
Still waiting for that source that prooves that the Byzantine authors differenciated between latinophone and grekophone roman (eastroman/byzantine) citizens and that they meant the Romanians... Also nothing is said about the teritories north of the Danube. The Byzantines didnt accept those as roman territories since 6 century. What we know from roman and byzantine sources about these territories is that they were populated by Germanic tribes, Avars, Bulgars, Slavs. Nothing about Vlachs, Romanians, Romans (though that meant Greek at that time) or Dacians... Wonder why... The biggest riddle on the Balkans. Annitas, shut the f**k up you lowless life and get out of the Bulgarian forum. I dont post on your f**king Roma forum.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 7:54:34 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 7:54:34 GMT -5
A bunch of Romanians whinning about their identity to their Slavic superiors, tell me something new hahahahaha bitchs... all you know how to do is w**re, so w**re for us and maybe will we show you mercy. Superior, you say? Bytch, you Slavs were the first to fold to the Ottomans, after the chubby Greek of course. Maybe that Dubrovnik stuff excluded, which was of course founded by Vlachs. Then you couldn't gain your independence on your own right, so you had to wait for Russians and Romanians to help you. Once you did receive independence, you started WW1 (Serbs), then started to massacre civilians (Croatians), then founded a federation only to once again start massacring civilians (Serbs and Croats). And all these years we've been listening to your boring side of the story, as if anyone would give a damn. Bytch, get the F out!
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 7:56:34 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 7:56:34 GMT -5
"Annitas, shut the f**k up you lowless life and get out of the Bulgarian forum. I dont post on your f**king Roma forum."
This is my toilet. Once I'm done crapping, I'll go--until the next time my nature calls. Right now I'm having a diarrhea.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 8:01:31 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 8:01:31 GMT -5
That's true. I've seen it may be hundred times. Still, I fail to see the word Romanian in any of the sources you provide. I doubt 'the heavy artillery" lol will provide it either. Now don't start explaining how Vlah equals Romanian because this is quite a joke. This is where you are wrong. There are four theories about the origin of Asens - Bulgarian, Vlah, Cuman and of mixed origin. No matter which one is true, the fact is that they did fvck all about Romania. First, because there was no such country, second, because everything they did, they did it for Bulgaria and all of them had Bulgarian consciousness. That is what matters. It would be the same if I now start pointing out how proud I am of the Bulgarian guy who wrote the Romanian national anthem. Why should I be proud of him? He did nothing for Bulgaria. The same with Asens for Romania. Vlach is Vlach, not anything else. This lie that a Vlach could be something else was composed by Mongol-Gypsy-Tatars. The Byzantine chronicles differentiated between Vlachs and Mongol-Tatars under the name of Bulgarian. Asen was a Vlach, that's what the debate was about. Not about what political faction he served (the Vlach-Bulgarian Empire, as the sources say). There are many Vlachs, or Romanians, who have served foreign powers. So what?
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ioan
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 10:49:50 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 10:49:50 GMT -5
"Annitas, shut the f**k up you lowless life and get out of the Bulgarian forum. I dont post on your f**king Roma forum." This is my toilet. Once I'm done crapping, I'll go--until the next time my nature calls. Right now I'm having a diarrhea. good that you know your worth: all your postings equal diarrhea. So go shitting in your roma forum.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 10:54:15 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 10:54:15 GMT -5
I am shytting in the roma forum.
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ioan
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 11:18:49 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 11:18:49 GMT -5
yes i know, but lately you shit in the bulgarian too.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 11:24:39 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 11:24:39 GMT -5
It was the Bulgarian forum I was referring to. lolz.
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ioan
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 11:27:18 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 11:27:18 GMT -5
i know but it wasnt funny and all we know which one is the real roma forum and it aint this.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 12:23:32 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 12:23:32 GMT -5
Why say that? We all know that the Roma will secure the future Bulgarian offspring. Consult your demographics.
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ioan
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 12:31:33 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 12:31:33 GMT -5
oh the irony! look whos talking!!! look in your own yard before looking south!
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 12:40:23 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 12:40:23 GMT -5
Why, Ioan? Bulgaria has supplied with the Roma population in all of Europe. Our Gypsies were bought from Bulgaria. Now your Gypsies will secure the future of the Bulgarian population. Since so many Bulgarians have been moving out, and since your women do not give birth to enough babies, the Gypsies will supply you with baby Bulgarians.
Nothing wrong with that. In fact, my bet is that 30 years from now, we won't be discussing your origins; and whether they're Daco-Thracian, Mongol-Tatar, or whatever. Nope, nope. In 30 years from now, the fat lady will be singing, and the certainty of your origins will be set in stone.
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Feb 12, 2012 12:44:52 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 12:44:52 GMT -5
remember, I ve been in Romania many times. Look around. Its full of gypsies. Roma forum: thats the correct name. You can thank your voivodas for the gypsies... Yes its part of your history, after you appear miraculously.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 12:56:47 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 12:56:47 GMT -5
The only miracle here is you. We've been in these parts of thousands of years, so there's no miracle there. You, on the other hand, managed to get here all the way from Tatarstan, Mongolia ... heck, I've even heard the Korean theory. Now just chill down and let the Turks and the Gypsies take care of things. They know what they're doing.
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 12, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
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nicetas
Feb 12, 2012 13:18:11 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 12, 2012 13:18:11 GMT -5
What kind of gap is that? Oh, yeah, a Bulgarian manipulative kind of gap. Look for when the Dacians were last mentioned in sources, you liar!
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