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Post by masteralbanianknow on Sept 13, 2012 19:25:45 GMT -5
And yet Tetovo, Gostivar, Debar remain in the borders of R.Macedonia....better luck next time I guess.... dodo head ,it wasn't to break away because that would of been easier it was for equal rights that you slavs hoarded for yourselves . Like in your new brave constitution : "Macedonia a nation of Macedonians " Guess what ? you are not even Macedonian Albancite pravi Makedon
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Post by masteralbanianknow on Sept 13, 2012 19:29:50 GMT -5
Another thing that you don't know or acknowledge
Todor Simovski in his article: 'About the participation of nationalities in Ilinden uprising" stated:
The first efforts for a Macedonian state commenced around the last decades of XIXth century, under the influence of national movements of neighboring peoples, who struggled to liberate themselves from Ottoman yoke. Under the influence of those movements, it was formed the organization of VMRO, who stirred up the revolt of Ilinden at 1903. The revolt had largely an anti-Ottoman stance. That's why many Albanians joined it. Without the help of Albanians, it would not have any success, considering that this uprising took place in regions inhabited rather by Albanians.
Then he adds: Albanians had distinguished merits about the committee of Ilinden. They carried arms along with other military ammunition.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 13, 2012 19:40:46 GMT -5
I like good loyal citizens of Macedonia, what ever their nationality is. Macedonia has been divided enough over the years, we don't need further divisions.
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Post by masteralbanianknow on Sept 13, 2012 19:46:12 GMT -5
Well then start off on a good foot
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Post by valmir on Sept 14, 2012 6:44:58 GMT -5
If we wanted to divide Macedonia we would have done it in 2001 but we couldn't get in problems with 2-3 states at one time, so we left Macedonia for later cus we have now problems in Kosovo. Soon there will be a Albano-Serbian meeting on the Kosovo issue and probably we will exchange some territories with them after that we will deal with the Great Phalanx
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Post by serbalmighty on Sept 14, 2012 6:46:39 GMT -5
stfu fake slav
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2012 17:11:25 GMT -5
I like good loyal citizens of Macedonia, what ever their nationality is. Macedonia has been divided enough over the years, we don't need further divisions. whoa ....good turnaround chento
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Post by Sokol on Sept 17, 2012 18:23:57 GMT -5
I like good loyal citizens of Macedonia, what ever their nationality is. Macedonia has been divided enough over the years, we don't need further divisions. whoa ....good turnaround chento No turnaround Rexi, this is the position of Macedonians. We have never been an ethnically pure territory even since ancient times. We are however against the inclusion of any territories in the current borders of R.Macedonia into other states.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 21, 2012 10:11:00 GMT -5
opa !
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Post by Rhezus on Sept 23, 2012 18:23:59 GMT -5
And let Macedonia be. Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Albania... Nowadays Macedonia is undeniable, does not belong to any of the mentioned. Don't live with the past anymore.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 27, 2012 7:57:34 GMT -5
Makedonians are south Serbs. Their "Slava", an old SLavic custom only preserved by Serbs/Makedonians attest to that.
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Post by armani on Sept 27, 2012 11:27:48 GMT -5
Makedonians are south Serbs. Their "Slava", an old SLavic custom only preserved by Serbs/Makedonians attest to that. Bulgarians are way more connected to Macedonia than Serbs ever will be.
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Post by Rhezus on Sept 27, 2012 11:42:29 GMT -5
^^ And despite that, we want them to be on their own. They are neither "Serbs" or "Bulgarians". And if you ask them, you won't hear they want to be any albanians, greeks or whatever else. Go and say to the belgians they are french, or to the norwegians they are swedes.. You are going to hear their answer - very clear too.
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Post by armani on Sept 27, 2012 12:15:31 GMT -5
^^ And despite that, we want them to be on their own. They are neither "Serbs" or "Bulgarians". And if you ask them, you won't hear they want to be any albanians, greeks or whatever else. Go and say to the belgians they are french, or to the norwegians they are swedes.. You are going to hear their answer - very clear too. Where did i said Macedonians are Bulgarians? Read my post again. The vlach-gypsy Pyrros said they are South Serbs.
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Post by Rhezus on Sept 27, 2012 12:19:55 GMT -5
I didn't turn to you, but more to the ones who started this thread, or in general - to all.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 28, 2012 2:50:16 GMT -5
Makedonians are south Serbs. Their "Slava", an old SLavic custom only preserved by Serbs/Makedonians attest to that. Bulgarians are way more connected to Macedonia than Serbs ever will be. Bulgarian is more connected with mak only in the grammar dept cause simply bulgos use Makedonian grammar (well a subset of this, makedonian is much more rich). (Serbian/makedonian grammar with the 5 declension system is the official language of the Serbian empire during Stefan Dusan) Modern Serbian is more connected with Modern mak in : (and i say modern because old Mak and old serbian is the same language) - intonation - accent - vocabulary - slava - mannerisms - attitude - appearance (taller and blonder and more athletic) and of course genetic studies show that mak/serbia/ex-yu/west-bulgaria share the same blood. Bulgarian (as there is lack of any evidence) most probably is a simplification of the southern serbian grammar + the influx of countless Russianisms to make it sound unique and different. Russians, in ~ 1824 considered Bulgarian as a dialect of Serbian.
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Post by armani on Sept 28, 2012 7:38:56 GMT -5
Bulgarians are way more connected to Macedonia than Serbs ever will be. Bulgarian is more connected with mak only in the grammar dept cause simply bulgos use Makedonian grammar (well a subset of this, makedonian is much more rich). (Serbian/makedonian grammar with the 5 declension system is the official language of the Serbian empire during Stefan Dusan) Modern Serbian is more connected with Modern mak in : (and i say modern because old Mak and old serbian is the same language) - intonation - accent - vocabulary - slava - mannerisms - attitude - appearance (taller and blonder and more athletic) and of course genetic studies show that mak/serbia/ex-yu/west-bulgaria share the same blood. Go say this to Macedonians. lol Also, West Bulgaria can't be like Serbia since we lack the Gypsy T haplogroup. Bulgarian (as there is lack of any evidence) most probably is a simplification of the southern serbian grammar + the influx of countless Russianisms to make it sound unique and different. Russians, in ~ 1824 considered Bulgarian as a dialect of Serbian. I just don't know what to say...so much bullshit in one post. Eastern Serbs are Serbized Bulgarians, but unfortunately they are mixed with gypsy Serbs today.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 28, 2012 7:56:56 GMT -5
I just don't know what to say...so much bulls**t in one post. Eastern Serbs are Serbized Bulgarians, but unfortunately they are mixed with gypsy Serbs today. just two pics for you sister : Know what this 2nd text writes sister? take your time, you may freely punish yourself, but do not overdo it. You want here to entertain us....
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 28, 2012 8:02:55 GMT -5
+ makedonians acknowledge all this by themselves, no need to tell them what they already know ;D
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Post by Rhezus on Sept 28, 2012 13:20:10 GMT -5
Simplification.. lol! But our language is different indeed. It is rich enough to "borrow" any kind of Russian or any other slavic "influx". It simply forms the eastern group of the slavic branch. Our etiquette of speech is completely different from former Yugo languages. Makedonian and Serbian for instance sound mostly gramatically wrong (especially makedonian) and hearing these two, ppl start laughing inside. And these two lang. sound like some are not speaking but quarelling. We do not use our language like that, never, because it's stupid, a joke. Besides, mako and serbian are full of turcisms! Which again shows how one is cultivating its own language.
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