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Post by albascorp on Jul 20, 2012 8:16:02 GMT -5
can you tell me what does mean empire? pls
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 20, 2012 8:21:50 GMT -5
can you tell me what does mean empire? pls The Greek (Hellenic) world |
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Post by albascorp on Jul 20, 2012 8:24:04 GMT -5
can you tell me what does mean empire? pls The Greek (Hellenic) world ok lol can you tell me in wich dictionary you found that? post a link maybe ... by the way we can say this or that but ottoman empire was one of most non cruel empires... |
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 8:35:52 GMT -5
Hellene was first and only used for Achilles clan ....everybody else in history was not Hellene
but as you can see everybody wants to be greatness so here we are today but these knuckleheads are all predominant Anatolli and they come to our peninsula and preach us our lands history
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 20, 2012 8:52:04 GMT -5
Hellene was first and only used for Achilles clan ....everybody else in history was not Hellene but as you can see everybody wants to be greatness so here we are today but these knuckleheads are all predominant Anatolli and they come to our peninsula and preach us our lands history Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus !! "Arhaia Ellas apo Oricias kai Arhegonos Ellas Epiros"  CHAONES The Chaones according to Strabo were once the most powerful and warlike people of Epirus until the Molossians, in their turn, acquired a preponderating ascendancy over the other clans of that country. In the time of the Peloponnesia war the Chaones differed from their neihbours, in being subject to an aristocratical and not a monarchical government, their annual magistrates being always chosen from a particular family (thuc. II, 80). Tradition ascribed the origin of their names to Chaonas, the brother of Helenus, who married Andromache after the death of Pyrrhus. Cities of Chaonia are: Cities of Chaones: Palaeste, Chimera, Maeandria (fortress), Panormus, Onchesmus, Antigonea, Phanote Dexari Dexari was a tribe of Chaones. They lived ‘next to the Encheleae’ as Hecataeus wrote (FGrH1f103) and held the area which was later called Dassaretis, namely the southern part of the lakeland and the hilly country to the south west of it. Chaones were a group of Greek-speaking tribes and the Dexari or as they were called later the Dassaretae were the most northernly member of this group. Suliones Suliones were another Chaonian tribe, named by the poet Rhyanus who is quoted by Steph. Byzantinus (v. Συλίονες). Their name recall to mind the famous Suliotes during the wars for Greek independence. Thesprotians (Thesproti) Thesprotia extended along the coast from the Thyamis beyond the Acheron to the confines of the Cassopaei and in the interior to the boundaries of the territory of Dodona which in ancient times was regarded as a part of Thesprotia. They were considerd the most ancient from all Epirotic tribes since they are the only one mentioned by Homer (Odys. Ξ.315). Herodotus also affirms that they were the parent stock from whence descended the Thessalians who expelled the Aeolians from the country afterwards know by the name of Thessaly. (VII.176) Thesprotians were governed at first by monarchical system but later according to Thucydides (II.80) neither they nor Chaones were subject to kings. Cassopaei Cassopaei were a Thesprotian tribe. Cassopaei reached along the coast as far as the Ambracian gulf. According to Strabo (7.7.5) the Kassopaians were Thesprotians and between 330 – 325 BCE they became members of the Epeirote Federation . The region Kassopeia (Κασσωπία) (Dem. 7.32; Theopom frr 206-7; Ps. Slylax 31-32) or Kassiopaia (Plut. More. 297B) or Kassiopi (Ptol. Geog. 3.14.) was part of Thesprotia. Molossians 1. Pandosia, not far removed from the Acheron and the Acherusian Lake, and answering now, according to Leake, to Kastri. It was a colony of Elis, and gave name to another Pandosia, in Italy, in the country of the Brutth. Alexander, king of Epirus, was warned by the oracle of Dodona to avoid Pandosia and the Acherusian water, and erroneously applied it to this his own Pandosia, instead of that of Italy, where he received his fatal wound. 2. Buckatium, Bucheta, or Bucenta, close to the Acherusian Lake, and the remains of which are now to be found at the harbor of St. John. 3. Nicopolis, situate on an isthmus, on the coast, and answering now to Prevesa Vccchia. This place was founded by Augustus in commemoration of the victory obtained by him at Actium, and may be said to have arisen out of the ruins of all the surrounding cities in Epirus and Acarnania, and even as far as /Ktolia, which were compelled to contribute to its prosperity. So anxious, indeed, was Augustus lo raise his new colony to the highest rank among the cities of Greece, that he caused it to be admitted among those states which sent deputies to the Amphictyonic assembly. He also ordered games to be celebrated with great pomp every five years. Having afterward fallen into decay, it was restored by the Emperor Julian.The Molossi must have possessed several towns in the interior, since we are told by Polybius that, out of the seventy Epirotic cities destroyed by Paulus Aemilius, the greater number belonged to,this people. Few of these, however, are named in history. The most celebrated was Passaron, which may be considered as their capital, since Plutarch, in the life of Pyrrhus, reports that the kings of Epirus convened here the solemn assembly of the whole nation, when, after having performed the customary sacrifices, they took an oath that they would govern according to the established laws; and the people, in return, swore to maintain the constitution and defend the kingdom. Cramer seeks to identify it with some ruins near Joanina, in a south-southwest direction, and about four hours from that city. Leake leaves trie site uncertain.Modern travellers have expressed some surprise that no mention is made in history of the Lake of Joanina, and have even been led to suppose that this considerable expanse of water could not have existed in ancient times. But the truth is, that the present Lake of Joanina is the ancient Pains Pambotis (Παμβώτις Λίμνην) mentioned by Eustathius. He describes it as a lake having an island in the middle, containing a remarkable hill, which was fortified by Justinian, and to which he removed the inhabitants of the adjacent city of Euroea, which was in a defenceless state. The fortress of Joanina now occupies the site of Justinian’s castle, and the city of Joanina that of the ancient Euroea, in all probability.We must now close this description of Epirus with some account of the city and republic of Ambracia. This celebrated city was situated on the banks of the Arachthus or Arethon, a short distance from the waters of the Sinus Ambracius, to which it gave name. It is said to have been founded by some Corinthians headed by Tolgus or Torgus, who was either the brother or the son of Cypselus, chief of Corinth. It early acquired maritime celebrity by reason of its advantageous position, and was a powerful and independent city toward the commencement of the Peloponnesian war, in which it espoused the cause of Corinth and Sparta. At a later period we find its independence threatened by Philip, who seems to have entertained the project of annexing it to the dominions of his brother-in-law, Alexander, king of the Molossians. Whether it actually fell into the power of that monarch is uncertain, but there can be no doubt of its having been in the occupation of Philip, since the Ambraciots, according to Diodorus Siculus, on the accession of Alexander the Great to the throne, ejected the Macedonian garrison stationed in their city. Ambracia, however, did not long enjoy the freedom which it thus regained, for, having fallen into the hands of Pyrrhus, we arc told that it was selected by that prince as his usaal place of residence. Many years after, being under the dominion of the iEtolians, who were at that time involved in hostilities with the Romans, it sustained a siege against the latter, almost unequalled in tho annals of ancient warfare for the gallantry and perseverance displayed in the defence of the place. Ambracia at last opened its gates to the foe, and was stripped of all the statues and pictures with which it had been so richly adorned by Pyrrhus. From this time it sank into a state of insignificance, and Augustus, by transferring its inhabitants to Nicopolis, completed its desolation. It stood near the modern Arta, which town also gives its modern name to the Ambracian Gulf. Amplilochians Athamanes Orestae Pelagones Elimiotae |
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 9:04:46 GMT -5
molosh tribe is Illyrian and I hail from them 50% and the rest Linkest
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Post by albascorp on Jul 20, 2012 9:05:36 GMT -5
do you greek have name molos?
suliotes.. are wel known albanians...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 20, 2012 9:15:12 GMT -5
molosh tribe is Illyrian and I hail from them 50% and the rest Linkest Molossian tribe is from Epirus Infinite Earth (Apeirotan) Epirus lived ancient Greek tribes. Epirus participated in the Olympic Games of antiquity, which are allowed to participate only in ethnic Greeks. The first inhabitants of Epirus, the Greeks were Pelasgians. Later appear the Ionians, and then prevailing Doric Greek tribes. Thucydides (5th century BC.) Places limits on the Continental equality GENUS the river and the ancient Epidamnus (Durres). In ancient Epidamnus and Lissos are the limits of historic Epirus. In the era of Pyrrhus, Epirus includes both Acarnania to the south, and the Epidamnus north. The Epidamnos founded by Corinthians and Corfu. The ancient Greeks Epidamnos (Durres) took part in the Peloponnesian War as allies of Corfu and Athens. Aristotle (4th century BC.) Says that the Epirus is "on the Ancient Greece," in part previously sung Greco. This section of the mainland (North and South) with the rest of Greeks is evident and undeniable throughout antiquity. Dionysius Browser (1st century BC.) Determine the geographical boundaries of the Epirus north of Vlora. As the ancient saying, "Orikin favor Aiani founded Greek beginning." That is, starting from Greece Land of Orikou in Akrokeravnia. During the domination of the Greek Macedonians, the entire region from Apollonia and as Macedonians Shkodra was Province who became known by its Greek name of Greaca Illyria The Romans encountered only in the Greek Macedonians Illyrida and Epirus. So, they gave the name Macedonians in New Epirus and Old Epirus Illyrida in the Apollo as-and-Acarnania. Strabo (first century AD.) Sets the boundary between the Illyrians in Epirus and GENISIUS River and the nearby Via Egnatia, which starts from Dyrachium Durres and terminates in Greek Byzantium (Constantinople). Claudius Ptolemy (2nd cent. AD) mentions the old saying "primordial Hellas Epirus" as correct and true. Also, Procopius (6th century AD.) Says Epirus reaches the Epidamnus (Durres) and that the inhabitants are Greek ... "Greeks, Epirote called, till the city Epidamnus, iper epithalassia oikeitai." The Theopompus (4th century BC.) Epirus says the 14 tribes were, and everything Greek. Strabo (first century AD.) Indicate that the Epirus tribes of his time was eleven (11), again all Greek. |
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jul 20, 2012 12:57:47 GMT -5
«ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ» έγραφε η προσωπική του σφραγίδα! Έλληνας ο εθνικός ήρωας των αλβανών.  O εθνικός ήρωας του σημερινού αλβανικού κράτους, Γεώργιος Καστριώτης Σκεντέρμπεης, ήταν ένας Έλληνας πολέμαρχος, που αποκαλούσε εαυτόν Βασιλέα της Ηπείρου και μάλιστα χρησιμοποιούσε αρχαΐζουσα Ελληνική γλώσσα στα επίσημα έγγραφά του. Ο Καστριώτης είχε Ελληνική συνείδηση και ήταν κάτοχος της ελληνικής παιδείας. Τα έγγραφα που συντάσσονταν στην καγκελαρία του ήταν γραμμένα στην Ελληνική. Το 1461 απευθυνόμενος προς τον Σουλτάνο Μωάμεθ Β΄ έγραφε:
“Γεώργιος Καστριώτης ο μετονομασθείς Σκεντέρμπεης, ηγεμών των Ηπειρωτών και Αλβανών, στρατιώτης του Ιησού Χριστού προς Μωάμεθ τον μονάρχην των Οθωμανών, χαίρειν…”. Ομοίως απευθυνόμενος προς τον βασιλέα Αλφόνσο αυτοαποκαλείται “Πρίγκηψ των Ηπειρωτών”. That amblem says it all as well as the wartime byzantine flag that is usurped by people whose ancestors were loyal ottoman subjects, the very people that Kastriotis fought. History has its contradictions it seems. |
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 20, 2012 13:04:45 GMT -5
Thats the crux of it... Kastroiti fought against the ottomans while Rexxy's family was busy performing circumcisions.. ;D
Oh snap!!!
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 13:16:52 GMT -5
you don't know that ...maybe circumcised a century or two later .... maybe 3
the conversion was not done overnight ....takes a generation at least
snap ur azz
we lost 1/2 our population after the death of Castrioti let alone the ones that were skinned alive in Instanboli for public viewing
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Post by albascorp on Jul 20, 2012 13:24:21 GMT -5
i belive milos derives from mollos name...
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 13:25:43 GMT -5
^Miloshi
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 13:31:56 GMT -5
molosh tribe is Illyrian and I hail from them 50% and the rest Linkest Molossian tribe is from Epirus Infinite Earth (Apeirotan) Epirus lived ancient Greek tribes. Epirus participated in the Olympic Games of antiquity, which are allowed to participate only in ethnic Greeks. The first inhabitants of Epirus, the Greeks were Pelasgians. Later appear the Ionians, and then prevailing Doric Greek tribes. Thucydides (5th century BC.) Places limits on the Continental equality GENUS the river and the ancient Epidamnus (Durres). In ancient Epidamnus and Lissos are the limits of historic Epirus. In the era of Pyrrhus, Epirus includes both Acarnania to the south, and the Epidamnus north. The Epidamnos founded by Corinthians and Corfu. The ancient Greeks Epidamnos (Durres) took part in the Peloponnesian War as allies of Corfu and Athens. Aristotle (4th century BC.) Says that the Epirus is "on the Ancient Greece," in part previously sung Greco. This section of the mainland (North and South) with the rest of Greeks is evident and undeniable throughout antiquity. Dionysius Browser (1st century BC.) Determine the geographical boundaries of the Epirus north of Vlora. As the ancient saying, "Orikin favor Aiani founded Greek beginning." That is, starting from Greece Land of Orikou in Akrokeravnia. During the domination of the Greek Macedonians, the entire region from Apollonia and as Macedonians Shkodra was Province who became known by its Greek name of Greaca Illyria The Romans encountered only in the Greek Macedonians Illyrida and Epirus. So, they gave the name Macedonians in New Epirus and Old Epirus Illyrida in the Apollo as-and-Acarnania. Strabo (first century AD.) Sets the boundary between the Illyrians in Epirus and GENISIUS River and the nearby Via Egnatia, which starts from Dyrachium Durres and terminates in Greek Byzantium (Constantinople). Claudius Ptolemy (2nd cent. AD) mentions the old saying "primordial Hellas Epirus" as correct and true. Also, Procopius (6th century AD.) Says Epirus reaches the Epidamnus (Durres) and that the inhabitants are Greek ... "Greeks, Epirote called, till the city Epidamnus, iper epithalassia oikeitai." The Theopompus (4th century BC.) Epirus says the 14 tribes were, and everything Greek. Strabo (first century AD.) Indicate that the Epirus tribes of his time was eleven (11), again all Greek. the word "GREECE " "GREEK" did not exist then or the last 2 centuries ...where did you pull that from ? btw ... hmmmm so common those 2 words .....mitrello grekos |
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 13:41:28 GMT -5
say these two words over and over a few times ...maybe you learn something new
Epirus Pyrrhus
Epirus Pyrrhus
Epirus Pyrrhus
Pyrrhus Epirus
Pyrrhus Epirus
Pyrrhus Epirus
Pyrrhus Epirus
Epirus Pyrrhus
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Post by albascorp on Jul 20, 2012 13:42:33 GMT -5
milos miloshi mollos must be albanian name... !!!!!!!!! so milos obilicic probaly albanian and slobodan miloshevic got serbified |
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Post by rex362 on Jul 20, 2012 13:53:17 GMT -5
^slobodan is originally Montenegrin ....very possible in that case
just like more than 1/2 of the old school real Montenegrins were/are...ask emperor
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Post by valmir on Jul 20, 2012 13:58:43 GMT -5
Ancient Greeks have nothing to do with the modern Greeks, the modern Greeks are just a mix of Vlachs-Albanians-Slavs and some Turks....
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 20, 2012 14:03:45 GMT -5
Ancient Greeks have nothing to do with the modern Greeks, the modern Greeks are just a mix of Vlachs-Albanians-Slavs and some Turks.... Albanians are just a mix of Greeks,Vlachs,Slavs,Turks and Italians ! |
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Post by albascorp on Jul 20, 2012 14:47:34 GMT -5
^slobodan is originally Montenegrin ....very possible in that case just like more than 1/2 of the old school real Montenegrins were/are...ask emperor i just readed somthing about montenegro... 40% montegrians what ever it may mean... montenegrians.. about 28% serbs 5 % albs but... about 70% serbian culture... it means churches schools etc... and al on the shore (best places...) if i was montenegerian i would feel fucked in my as by serbs... and the funny part is those serbs got in montenegro from 1995... before 1995 there where only about 8 % or somthing serbs.... |
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