The Forgotten Greek Warlord GKastriotis of Epirus

[ulf]

Jul 26, 2012 13:09:06 GMT -5 kartadolofonos said:

lol, what this? Mexicans vs Nazi Germans+ Nazi Chechen? ;D

STFU ...

LMAO !!! Macedonian vs Bulgarian Komitatzis

I guess its few more videos of Mexicans and Nazi's

[kartadolofonos]

I guess its few more videos of Mexicans and Nazi's

Interesting ulf tell us more about your dark background !
Did your father dressed as a Nazi ?? and how did that make you feel?
I don't care if you were rejected by your parents and never felt love. ... they'll educate you something different! ...
This is the mind infection that you get through education that makes u today feel so ?

[rex362]

The Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung has featured Muslims living in northern Greece, close to neighboring Bulgaria who are also called Pomaks.

Their religion is the main difference between them and Greek natives. In Bulgarian villages such as Pashovi, especially in those resided by Pomaks, you may find mosques not Orthodox temples. They are very small and attendants are always on alert “because you would better be ready for anything,” says a 35-year-old Pomak.

This Muslim minority, despite living right on the Greek-Bulgarian borders and feeling as if both countries could constitute their homeland, faces many problems and is not welcome by any of them.

Pomaks have their own dialects, rather similar to that of Christian Bulgarians and many of them speak fluent Turkish, Albanian or Greek. Sociologists have not yet come to a certain conclusion on their origin. Some claim that Pomaks are a Slavic Muslim population, but others believe that they are Bulgarians who turned to Islam during the Ottoman occupation in the Balkans.

Many Greeks believe that religion plays a major role for social relationships and as a result, both the state and citizens, ignore Pomaks as if they do not live in Greece. The same is the case with Bulgaria and as a result, Pomaks exist but are totally forgotten by all, or at least, most of Greeks and Bulgarians.

[kartadolofonos]

Jul 26, 2012 14:59:47 GMT -5 rex362 said:

The Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung has featured Muslims living in northern Greece, close to neighboring Bulgaria who are also called Pomaks.

Their religion is the main difference between them and Greek natives. In Bulgarian villages such as Pashovi, especially in those resided by Pomaks, you may find mosques not Orthodox temples. They are very small and attendants are always on alert “because you would better be ready for anything,” says a 35-year-old Pomak.

This Muslim minority, despite living right on the Greek-Bulgarian borders and feeling as if both countries could constitute their homeland, faces many problems and is not welcome by any of them.

Pomaks have their own dialects, rather similar to that of Christian Bulgarians and many of them speak fluent Turkish, Albanian or Greek. Sociologists have not yet come to a certain conclusion on their origin. Some claim that Pomaks are a Slavic Muslim population, but others believe that they are Bulgarians who turned to Islam during the Ottoman occupation in the Balkans.

Many Greeks believe that religion plays a major role for social relationships and as a result, both the state and citizens, ignore Pomaks as if they do not live in Greece. The same is the case with Bulgaria and as a result, Pomaks exist but are totally forgotten by all, or at least, most of Greeks and Bulgarians.

[rex362]

dangerous ..

[Arxileas]

Jul 26, 2012 14:59:47 GMT -5 rex362 said:

The Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung has featured Muslims living in northern Greece, close to neighboring Bulgaria who are also called Pomaks.

Their religion is the main difference between them and Greek natives. In Bulgarian villages such as Pashovi, especially in those resided by Pomaks, you may find mosques not Orthodox temples. They are very small and attendants are always on alert “because you would better be ready for anything,” says a 35-year-old Pomak.

This Muslim minority, despite living right on the Greek-Bulgarian borders and feeling as if both countries could constitute their homeland, faces many problems and is not welcome by any of them.

Pomaks have their own dialects, rather similar to that of Christian Bulgarians and many of them speak fluent Turkish, Albanian or Greek. Sociologists have not yet come to a certain conclusion on their origin. Some claim that Pomaks are a Slavic Muslim population, but others believe that they are Bulgarians who turned to Islam during the Ottoman occupation in the Balkans.

Many Greeks believe that religion plays a major role for social relationships and as a result, both the state and citizens, ignore Pomaks as if they do not live in Greece. The same is the case with Bulgaria and as a result, Pomaks exist but are totally forgotten by all, or at least, most of Greeks and Bulgarians.

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Yet another news paper making claims on behalf of the people & not official from the people them self's....Geeez rex get your sources from unofficial reports from papers only

Sorry rex but these news papers are only good for toilet paper !

[masteralbanianknow]

eu.greekreporter.com/2012/07/22/swiss-paper-features-muslims-of-greek-rhodope-region-saying-no-one-wants-them/

[Arxileas]

Jul 25, 2012 2:47:54 GMT -5 Kralj Vatra said:

The guy was as Serb.

Consequently, Danish Franz Nte Zesse'n, military correspondent of the newspaper "Le Temps" Paris, doubts the Albanian origin of Georgios Kastriotis, stressing in his lecture: "Question is, if Georgios Kastriotis is able to be considered Albanian, since he was the son of Greek Ioannis Kastriotis and of a Serbian princess ".

Italian, English and Swedish reports consider Georgios Kastriotis a Greek. Thus Italian A. Salvi in the tragedy of (1718) he mentions him as a Greek (Greco Georgios Kastriotis). The English C. Randall in 1810 him calls Greek Hero (Grecian Hero) and the Swedish Barrau initially and Rudbeck later (1835) considers the Georgios Kastriotis a Greek.The History of French historical Paganel (Paganel: Histoire de Scanderbey), that was published in Paris in 1855 about him says he is evidently a Greek.

Marini Barletii, Kastrioti's first Biographer from Skodra (beginnings 16th AD),calls Kastrioti "Epirote prince" and "Sovereign of Epirus", while the entire biography reports only Epirotes and never Albanians.
Georgios Kastriotis' address to the sovereign of Taranta, Ioannis Antonio and giving out his origin and his genuine feelings, writes(in greek): "my forefathers were Epirotes from which Pyrrhus rose that only the Romans could push back.

Maybe these people got it alllll wrong No Greek is making these claims as you can see...I'm just the messenger...

[Arxileas]

Jul 26, 2012 16:32:59 GMT -5 masteralbanianknow said:

eu.greekreporter.com/2012/07/22/swiss-paper-features-muslims-of-greek-rhodope-region-saying-no-one-wants-them/

Yes it says Swiss newspapers claims... I'm sorry i find this source rather dubious. But thanks any ways. I will keep an open mind though & hoping from a good sources some day.

[rex362]

Jul 26, 2012 16:32:59 GMT -5 masteralbanianknow said:

eu.greekreporter.com/2012/07/22/swiss-paper-features-muslims-of-greek-rhodope-region-saying-no-one-wants-them/

ty MAK


I am also the messenger

[albascorp]

kill the messenger!!!

[Kralj Vatra]

Jul 26, 2012 9:36:26 GMT -5 Kanaris said:

You are indeed crazy putting a 'nov' and a 'niv' at the end of a name does not make it slavic... those links you posted are worthless... We have a region in Chios called Sklavia maybe thats slav too? ::)Get out of here before I throw a banana at you...

why bother posting? you are so useless.

[Kralj Vatra]

Jul 26, 2012 10:18:27 GMT -5 kartadolofonos said:

Slavic endings like -tsa and -tsi are part of the modern Greek language.
Slavs borrowed many loanwords from the Greeks
The two Greek Brothers Methodios and Cyrill create the Slavic Alphabet,
because the Slavs have Not an writing System.
What you describe as hybrid Slavic place names are actually Greek.
Many place names in Greece for example
Metsovo is the biggest Vlach town in Greece and the name is obviously Slavic?
The Enlatinized speaking Greeks in Romance call it Aminciu and it is the
Greeks who call it Metsovo!
What is also striking is that though there are many toponyms in Greece
and your fault is Pyrros to considert such places name as Slavic.
;D my ass off !! Brainwashed "Stupid" Stop to Read Fallmeyers Bulls**t

when fallmerayer wrote about the greeks of pontos, no p**y criticized him.

When he wrote the obvious conclusions about mainland greece, all prostitutes went on him...

oh the hypocrisy !!!!

Look dude :
Meca = small bear (bear = medved, like the PM of Russia medvedev, btw med=honey, bears like med).
Mecovo comes from meca....

one picture is 1000 words right?

www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B0&oq=%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B0&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.4806.12246.0.12474.8.6.1.0.0.0.1123.1972.0j1j3j7-1.5.0...0.0...1c.6frPUXUKitw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=cb4554c52436c70f&biw=1088&bih=670

you guys remind me of this idiotc peice pf crap :

www.smokovo.gr/?p=2411

who tries to prove that smokovo is not slavic...


PS

as far as -ica (and ishta its bulgarian form) is concerned , those are purely slavic endings.
Can be found from poland to the north of japan..

do not be delusional ...




PS2

tell me karta, you a vlah, a sarakatsan, as i am right?

ok, how did our ancestors call:

lizard : gusterica
cucumber : kastravec
white sheep : belo
head : glava
good : dobro

etc etc etc etc

this is sign of slavic contact... i am not claiming nothing what falmerayer says..

falmerayes said we are a mix...

no, i say, we came *AFTER* the slavs to *REPLACE* the slavs..

same pattern happens today in Kosovo.

So, to ease your pain, We are not slavs.... but we aint (true ancient) greek either (in the sense of Crete/Cyprus/Pontos).

PS2

i am from Janina, i have relatives from Metsovo, and never heard about this ...... how did you call it?? Aminciu ??

[Kralj Vatra]

ok, i saw it in the wiki, didn;t know this.. maybe those vlahs who settled there carried their old toponym there i dont know...

now lets look at the most known citizens of metsovo :

Averov, Tosic-as !!! hmm!!!! very greek names!!

[Kralj Vatra]

Karta, since you play the epirot mega greek , this is devoted to you:

1. Ἀμπροβίτσα

2. Ἀράχοβα

3. Ἀραχοβίτσα

4. Ἀρδομίστα

5. Ἄρδοσι

6. Ἀρλίσκα

7. Ἀρμάτοβο

8. Βάβω

9. Βαγενετία

10. Βαλεβίστα

11. Βάλτιστα

12. Βάλτος

13. Βάλτσιστα

14. Βαλτσώρα

15. Βάνιστα

16. Βαρμπόμπα

17. Βασταβέτσι

18. Βεζήτζα

19. Βελιτζιός

20. Βελᾶ: τὴν Βελᾶν

21. Βέλλιανη

22. *Βελογόστη

23. Βελτσίστα

24. Βέρβα

25. Βέργος

26. Βερνίκον

27. Βήσανη

28. Βιρός

29. Βίσεντζκον

30. Βίσιανη

31. Βλασάνη

32. Βοϊνίκον

33. Βόμπλο

34. Βόριστα

35. Βορός

36. Βορτόπια

37. Βοστίνα

38. Βοτίβιστα

39. Βότσαρη

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54. Βρουπίστα / Βρουπιστά

55. Βρουσίνα

56. Βρυάνιστα

57. Γαβρισιοί

58. Γαρδίκον Μέγα

59. Γαρδίκιον

60. Γαρδίκιον

61. Γενοβονίβα

62. Γιάννιστα

63. Γιάννου βόντα

64. Γκαλίτσιον

65. Γκαμενίτσες

66. Γκλαβιτσιά

67. Γκλαμπατσιινοῦ

68. Γκόλιος

69. Γκορίτσα

70. Γκοποσιάνη

71. Γκουσταρίτσα

72. Γκράμποβο

74. Γκριμπάβιτσα

75. Γκριμπάνος

76. Γκρίμπιανη

77. Γκρίμποβο

78. Γκροχότια

79. Γλαβίτσα

80. Γλίνα




81. Γλοξιάνιν

82. Γλουμπουτσάριον

83. Γολᾶ

84. Γόριανη

85. Γορίτσα

86. Γορίτσα

87. Γουμενίτσα

88. Γουριάνιστα

89. Γράβος

90. Γραβίτσα

91. Γρανίτσα

92. Γράσδανη

93. Γρατσανᾶ

94. Γρεβενίτιον

95. Γρεντά

96. Γρίβα

97. Γριτζούνιστα

98. Δέντσικον

99. Δερβίζιανα

100. Διάλτσα

101. Δοβρᾶ

102. Δοβρίνοβον

103. Δόβρον

104. Δόλιανη

105. Δολιανά

106. Δολό

107. Δομολεσσᾶ

108. Δοχώριον

109. Δραγάϊ

110. Δραγάνη

111. Δραγάρι

112. Δραγοβέτσι

113. Δραγομή

114. Δραγοψᾶ

115. Δρεαβοψά

116. Δρεάνοβον

117. Δρεστενῖκον

118. Δροβιανή

119. Ἔλεσνα

120. Ἔλια

121. Ἔλση

122. Ζάβροχον

123. Ζαγόρι / Ζαγόριον

124. Ζαγόριανη

125. Ζαγόρτσα

126. Ζάλογγον

127. Ζαμόρια

128. Ζάμπορτα

129. Ζαμπουλάντσα

130. Ζάμπουτη

131. Ζαραβίνα

132. Ζαραβούτσι

133. Ζαρνοβόντα

134. Ζέλεβο

135. Ζελεσσό

136. Ζελίστα

137. Ζελίστα

138. Ζέλοβα

139. Ζελοχοβίστα

140. Ζερβιανά

141. Ζιαμπονέρια

142. Ζιάσακας

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145. Ζλαρόβου

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147. Ζουπάνι

148. Ζώριανη

149. Ζώριστα

150. Ἱερομέρι

151. Ἴσβορος

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154. Καμινίτσα

155. Κάντσικον

156. Καρδίκι

157. Καρίτσα

158. Κεπένοβο

159. Κεράσοβο

160. Κεράσοβο


161. Κεράσοβο

162. Κλένος

163. Κοβίλιανη

164. Κοβόσδα / Γκουβόζδα

165. Κοζιακό

166. Κονίσπολις

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168. Κόνιτσκα

169. Κορύστιανη

170. Κορύτιανη

171. Κορύτιανη

172. Κοσόβα

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177. Κωστάνιανη

178. Λαζιανά

179. Λαζινιά

180. Λαμπανίτσα

181. Λεαυσίστα

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223. Μπουζοβά

224. Μπουρελέσα

225. Μπουστερή

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227. Μπράλιεγκο

228. Μπρανίτσα

229. Μπρενίτσα

230. Μπριάσκοβον

231. Μπριάτουκαι pl.

232. Νεγράδες

233. Νιάτοβον / Νιάντοβον

234. Νιστά

235. Νοβοσέλην

236. Ντοβρᾶ

237. Ντόβρη

238. Ντόλιανη


239. Ντομπλίτσα

240. Ντραμπάτοβα

241. Ντρεγούτια

242. Ντριάνεβα

243. Ντρόζγκα

244. Ὀζερός

245. Ὄρλα

246. Ὀσδίνα

247. Ὀσέτζκα

248. Όστανίτσα

249. Όστροβίτσα

250. Πάδες

251. Παλαιοσέλι

252. Πετροβίτσα

253. Πεστά

254. Πέτσιανη

255. Πλάβαλη

256. Πλέσια (Τσαρκοβίστης)

257. Πλέσια (Μαλακασίου)

258. Πλησίβιτσα

259. Πογδορᾶ

260. Πογδόριανη

261. Πολιάνα

262. Πολιτσάνη

263. Πόποβον / Πόπποβον

264. Πορατζάνος χωρίον

265. Πράδαλλα

266. Πυροβίτσικα

267. Ῥαβαινή

268. Ῥαβένια

269. Ῥαδοβίζι

270. Ῥαδοβόλη

271. Ῥαβοστήβα

272. Ῥαδοτόβιν

273. Ῥαντοβάνη

274. Ῥαντόνι

275. Ῥασοβίστα

276. Ῥιάχοβον

277. Ῥογκοβοῦ

278. Σαλινίκη

279. Σαλίτσα

280. Σανδοβίτσα

281. Σανοβόν

282. Σειστρούνι

283. Σέλλιανη

284. Σελενιανή

285. Σέλσιανα

286. Σέλτζκα

287. Σέλτση

288. Σενίκον

289. Σερβιανά

290. Σιόποτος

291. Σιούτιστα

292. Σίπκα

293. Σκλιάβη

294. Σκλοῦποι

295. Σκουπίτσα

296. Σμόκια

297. Σμόκοβον

298. Σουδενά

299. Σούσκαρα

300. Σουχᾶ

301. Στάνη

302. Στάνοβον

303. Σταρίτσιανη

304. Στολοβόν

305. Στρατίνιτσα

306. Στριγανέτσι

307. Στρουμπέτσικο

308. Στρούνι

309. Στρώμη

310. Συράκον

311. Σωποτσέλιον

312. Τέρροβον

313. Τζουμέρκα

314. Τιχοπολιανή / Χοπόλιανη


315. Τόπλιτζα

316. Τούρνοβον

317. Τούροβο

318. Τρεαβοβιδίστα

319. Τρινόβιανα

320. Τριστεάνικον

321. Τσαρκοβίστα

322. Τζέλοβα

323. Τζεμερνίκου Gen. Sing.

324. Τσεπέλοβον

325. Τσερβάρι

326. Τσερίτσανη

327. Τσερνέσι

328. Τσιάτιστα

329. Φραστανά

330. Φράστανα

331. Χήνκα

332. Χλωμός

333. Χόϊκα

334. Χρυσοβίτσα








LOLLLLL





334 slavic names post 1926, AFTER the MASSIVE renamings of 1926-1927....


LMAO

[kartadolofonos]

334 slavic place names

Pyrros tell me how many greek name are outside Greece ?!
more than the slavic place name ...

So, to ease your pain, We are not slavs.... but we aint (true ancient) greek either (in the sense of Crete/Cyprus/Pontos)

"Modern Greeks are direct descendents of the Ancient Greeks"

tell me karta, you a vlah, a sarakatsan, as i am right?
ok, how did our ancestors call:
lizard : gusterica
cucumber : kastravec
white sheep : belo
head : glava
good : dobro
etc etc etc etc

Listen Grecoserb my ancestors are greeks and we live in GREECE

lizard = savra
cucumber = anguri
white =aspro or levko
head = kefali
good =kalo

Pyrros your Ex Yugoslavia is Slavic but not Greece !!

[albascorp]

Jul 27, 2012 12:59:20 GMT -5 kartadolofonos said:

334 slavic place names

Pyrros tell me how many greek name are outside Greece ?!
more than the slavic place name ...



"Modern Greeks are direct descendents of the Ancient Greeks"

tell me karta, you a vlah, a sarakatsan, as i am right?
ok, how did our ancestors call:
lizard : gusterica
cucumber : kastravec
white sheep : belo
head : glava
good : dobro
etc etc etc etc

Listen Grecoserb my ancestors are greeks and we live in GREECE

lizard = savra
cucumber = anguri
white =aspro or levko
head = kefali
good =kalo

[glow=red,2,300]Pyrros your Ex Yugoslavia is Slavic but not Greece !![/glow]

nop thats a lie to...

[Teuta1975]

The descendents of Gjergj Kastrioti fled to Italy after his death. They are called now Arberesh...strange enough, they speak Albanian!!!!!! Could it be an indication that Epirus region was dominantly Albanian speaking?? Or perhaps they learned Albanian in Italy???

[Teuta1975]

Jul 20, 2012 15:03:09 GMT -5 Emperor AAdmin said:

I see you have no clue on Montenegro and its serb heritage.
Montenegrin nationality is a recent communist invention to weaken serb ethnic corpus. Dont worry they will all eventually revert (read dead west and resurgent Russia and east) to what they were and that is proudest Serbs of all and so called Serb Sparta.

www.njegos.org/siteindex/petrovic.htm

I suggest all Serbs convert to Russians!!!!!!!

[Kralj Vatra]

Aug 27, 2012 17:41:06 GMT -5 albgunsmith said:

Jul 19, 2012 18:06:43 GMT -5 kartadolofonos said:

rex : On the Map Greek Despotat of Epirus Hellenic Empire !!

Albania is a creation of the interests of Great Powers !!
Greek hero as the national symbol of Albania
with Byzantine war flag two-headed eagle.
to find an Albanian history and the creation
of the new young state in the early 19th - 20th century
Albania did not exists before ...
During the Turkish occupation there was no
Albanian nation.

greece is a creation of great powers, ...who fought too to create it....greeks were not a nation too, nations as modern concept are quite late....greeks were never known as greeks but as rum meaning romans.... so, when did you found this greek thing??? greek or better rums were called all orthodox people of turkish empire...and the balkans were called rum-elia land of romans,,,, anyway, what can you excpect from a theocracy in 21 century....

albanians are exatctly the same.