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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 27, 2013 20:14:44 GMT -5
The name "Kosovo"By: J. P. Maher Ph. D. Professor Emeritus of Linguistics Northeastern Illinois University Chicago
"Kosovo" is a Serbian place name, more fully "kosovo polje", meaning the 'field (or plain) of blackbirds'. "Kosovo Polje" lies just outside the city of Prishtina. Ornithology lesson: Among North Americans, Australians, and South Africans, only ornithologists can identify the species in question. Kosovo's "black bird" is no crow, nor raven, no starling nor grackle, but "turdus merula", European cousin of the North American rusty-bellied thrush ("turdus migratorius"), which Yanks call the "robin".
In Britain and Ireland "robin" is the name of another species, "erithacus rubecula". (The "four and twenty 'blackbirds' baked in a pie", of the English rhyme, were of the species "merula", in Serbian called "kos". From this term "kosovo" is the derived possessive adjective. Like America's harbinger of spring, the black bird called "kos" in Serbian language sings sweetly in the springtime and early summer.
For North Americans the feel of the Serbo-Croatian place name "Kosovo" can only be had from a free translation, "Field of Robins".
Albanians have borrowed the word from the Serbs, whose once overwhelming majority was driven down, especially since the Congress of Berlin, by savage aggression from Albanians incited then and in WW I by Austria-Hungary and Germany, in World War II by Mussolini's puppet Albanians, and after WW II by the discriminatory ethnic cleansing of the Stalinist dictator Josip Broz. Native Indian place names in America have no meaning in English: e.g. "Michigan" means nothing in English. In Ojibwa "mishshikamaa" means "it is a big lake". Just so the place names of Ireland have transparent meaning in Gaelic but are meaningless tags in the colonialist English, e.g. "Dublin" is Gaelic "dubh lin" 'black pool', and "Kildare" is "cil dara" 'church of the oak',
Just so the names of the Serbian province of Kosovo are clear Serbian formations, but have no meaning in the Albanian language.
Proof of the Serbian origin of the name and the loanword status of the immigrant Albanian term is that the word "kosovo" has a clear etymology to anyone who knows a Slavic language, while Albanian "Kosova" is an opaque, meaningless place name in the Albanian language. Kosovo is Serbian.
(End of quoted text by Professor Maher)
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 27, 2013 20:30:58 GMT -5
orginal name is dardania...
kosovo is indeed serbian... name...
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 27, 2013 20:31:18 GMT -5
Etymology: Shortened form of Serbo-Croatian Косово поље (Kosovo polje, "blackbirds’ field"), from косово (kosovo), posessive form of кос (kos, "blackbird"), and поље (polje, "field"). en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kosovo(notice in the link above that to define the etymology and origin of the word "Kosovo" one must always look back upon Serbian sources and have an understanding within these lines). [Albanian] is not even mentioned. If Kosovo was "Albanian" then surely in the Albanian language [Kosovo] would mean something, or at least there would be an Albanian name for the land other than Dardania which isn't Albanian at all and contradictory. I even looked up the etymology of "Kosova" and of course all sources direct me to the Serbian definition. KOSOVO is SERBIAN from it's root up. The Albanians know this, which is why they it's part of their code to destroy all things Serbia - their attempt to erase Serbian history is deemed to fail b/c really all the evidence is in the name.
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 27, 2013 20:39:00 GMT -5
orginal name is dardania... kosovo is indeed serbian... name... No one calls it Dardania besides gramps at the dinner table. Not even your own leaders call it Dardania. NO ONE IN THE WORLD calls this region Dardani - Only Kosovo. Hence why Albanians have no other choice other than to Albanize a SERBIAN name, Kosovo to Kosov(a). Having the same meaning - only in Serbian and not Albanian. what does "Kos" mean in Albanian... yogurt? maybe that's why you guys are good with the ice cream....
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 27, 2013 20:41:53 GMT -5
Etymology: Shortened form of Serbo-Croatian Косово поље (Kosovo polje, "blackbirds’ field"), from косово (kosovo), posessive form of кос (kos, "blackbird"), and поље (polje, "field"). en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kosovo(notice in the link above that to define the etymology and origin of the word "Kosovo" one must always look back upon Serbian sources and have an understanding within these lines). [Albanian] is not even mentioned. If Kosovo was "Albanian" then surely in the Albanian language [Kosovo] would mean something, or at least there would be an Albanian name for the land other than Dardania which isn't Albanian at all and contradictory. I even looked up the etymology of "Kosova" and of course all sources direct me to the Serbian definition. KOSOVO is SERBIAN from it's root up. The Albanians know this, which is why they it's part of their code to destroy all things Serbia - their attempt to erase Serbian history is deemed to fail b/c really all the evidence is in the name. who says... dardania aint albanian name ?
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 27, 2013 22:32:48 GMT -5
Etymology: Shortened form of Serbo-Croatian Косово поље (Kosovo polje, "blackbirds’ field"), from косово (kosovo), posessive form of кос (kos, "blackbird"), and поље (polje, "field"). en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kosovo(notice in the link above that to define the etymology and origin of the word "Kosovo" one must always look back upon Serbian sources and have an understanding within these lines). [Albanian] is not even mentioned. If Kosovo was "Albanian" then surely in the Albanian language [Kosovo] would mean something, or at least there would be an Albanian name for the land other than Dardania which isn't Albanian at all and contradictory. I even looked up the etymology of "Kosova" and of course all sources direct me to the Serbian definition. KOSOVO is SERBIAN from it's root up. The Albanians know this, which is why they it's part of their code to destroy all things Serbia - their attempt to erase Serbian history is deemed to fail b/c really all the evidence is in the name. who says... dardania aint albanian name ? Pretty much the point of this thread is point out how you guys are a paradox, an enigma, your whole cause is a fallacy. I find this fascinating.
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 28, 2013 6:45:29 GMT -5
who says... dardania aint albanian name ? Pretty much the point of this thread is point out how you guys are a paradox, an enigma, your whole cause is a fallacy. I find this fascinating. what extacly... that kosova was against its will... "serbian province" where serbs officialy gived names... like i said orginal albanian name is dardania... im not sure why... or how it got todays flag... and name... if rugova was longer alive... maybe... it would get orginal name...
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Post by thana on Apr 13, 2015 23:18:23 GMT -5
the original and ancient name is 'dardania'.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jun 9, 2018 11:20:23 GMT -5
the original and ancient name is 'dardania'. Well the most North Eastern most point of Albanian settlement prior to the slavic expansion was Prizren so I have no Idea about an Albanian history in Kosovo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prizren
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Post by rex362 on Jun 14, 2018 15:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 10, 2018 15:05:12 GMT -5
in albanian it's mulizeze
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 24, 2018 1:01:49 GMT -5
Pretty much the point of this thread is point out how you guys are a paradox, an enigma, your whole cause is a fallacy. I find this fascinating. what extacly... that kosova was against its will... "serbian province" where serbs officialy gived names... like i said orginal albanian name is dardania... im not sure why... or how it got todays flag... and name... if rugova was longer alive... maybe... it would get orginal name... Hahaahaa Firstly, you will need the approval of the UN which will never happen Secondly,you can rename it all you like but what are you going to do about the 90% slavic toponyms in Kosovo
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 24, 2018 2:00:49 GMT -5
Secondly,you can rename it all you like but what are you going to do about the 90% slavic toponyms in Kosovo The typical method of the grekalbs is the following : - try to find a greek/albanian etymology (e.g. Poliana is from some .... Paul..., or Konjica is from ancient .. Knossos BOUHAHAHAHAHA lol!!!) - if that's not possible, then try to find a latin/vlah etymology (e.g. Belec, is from Belo/Bela = Beautiful in Latin/Italian) - if that's not possible, then revert to Bulgarian (if you notice, majority of Albs, if anything else fails will admit that there are some Slavic toponyms in albo lands but they are Bulgarian) that's the algorithm those simpletons work.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 24, 2018 7:57:05 GMT -5
Secondly,you can rename it all you like but what are you going to do about the 90% slavic toponyms in Kosovo - if that's not possible, then revert to Bulgarian (if you notice, majority of Albs, if anything else fails will admit that there are some Slavic toponyms in albo lands but they are Bulgarian) Yes lol Bulgarian or Croatian.......
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Post by Rusyn on Jan 7, 2020 13:26:06 GMT -5
- if that's not possible, then revert to Bulgarian (if you notice, majority of Albs, if anything else fails will admit that there are some Slavic toponyms in albo lands but they are Bulgarian) Yes lol Bulgarian or Croatian....... No actually Kosovo is Bulgaria its neither serbia neither albania XD
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 8, 2020 5:18:11 GMT -5
you think its Bulgarian?
but it doesnt matter Serbian or Bulgarian its all OK in my book!
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Post by Rusyn on Apr 10, 2020 0:36:17 GMT -5
of course it was irony but reality is that we even wouldn't be wrong if we say ''kosovo is cigania'' how it is going. because albanians and gypsyes are same. BTW The gypsyes that are living in nearby of my hood consider themselves Albanian hahahahahaha they even like to sing in Turkish and Albanian language. so kosovar albanians are just brighter skin gypsyes. Also what the fuck is Dardinia anyway?
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