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Post by aussie75 on Oct 2, 2014 9:10:13 GMT -5
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Post by kapedan on Oct 4, 2014 12:21:37 GMT -5
That is not complete, sir. If you dig deeper you will reveal the history as it really is: The Illyrians goddess of fertility was called "Piçka e Serbes". She was similar to Aferdita and she cheated on her husband when Zeus took the shape of the Giant Thracian Penis "c'Kari i Dajes". The Illyrians of Italy worshiped the mother of commitment and compassion called "Sllavica Me Tri Cica". She was a goddess with 3 titties that feed 3 bastards at the same time. Nowadays she resides in Kremlin; her middle tit-tie passses alongside Carpathian Mountains and ends up in Belgrade; Putin worshipes her in secret. The Greek God of War real name was called "Servi" because he was a nice servant by following the orders of his superiors to the maximum. HE flies around Serbia only at night in order to make sure no Unidenti-Fied-Objects go around the sky. His wings are made of ashes. There is even more......all I have to do is read Serbian history...OMG this is so much of a mind-opener.
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Post by kapedan on Oct 4, 2014 12:51:01 GMT -5
Rex, thank you for the posts. I just read them right now.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 4, 2014 16:59:36 GMT -5
That is not complete, sir. If you dig deeper you will reveal the history as it really is: The Illyrians goddess of fertility was called "Piçka e Serbes". She was similar to Aferdita and she cheated on her husband when Zeus took the shape of the Giant Thracian Penis "c'Kari i Dajes". The Illyrians of Italy worshiped the mother of commitment and compassion called "Sllavica Me Tri Cica". She was a goddess with 3 titties that feed 3 bastards at the same time. Nowadays she resides in Kremlin; her middle tit-tie passses alongside Carpathian Mountains and ends up in Belgrade; Putin worshipes her in secret. The Greek God of War real name was called "Servi" because he was a nice servant by following the orders of his superiors to the maximum. HE flies around Serbia only at night in order to make sure no Unidenti-Fied-Objects go around the sky. His wings are made of ashes. There is even more......all I have to do is read Serbian history...OMG this is so much of a mind-opener. aahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
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Post by aussie75 on Oct 9, 2014 9:46:23 GMT -5
^ thank the Arabs for saving your a$$es in the 8/9th century over in Caucasus!
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Post by rex362 on Oct 9, 2014 12:30:03 GMT -5
^ thank the Arabs for saving your a$$es in the 8/9th century over in Caucasus! stop being Pyssos pet dog .....
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Post by rex362 on Oct 11, 2014 12:03:44 GMT -5
Rex the illirinogoloist has going quiet! hahahhahahahahahah Alexandru Madgearu
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Post by aussie75 on Oct 12, 2014 8:09:13 GMT -5
LMAO this idiot author needs to head back to school and re educate! Dardania is clearly Serbian as it means land of wise men, not Dardhe pears, lmao.
Don't forget your arrival into Serbia at 1043AD!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 11:26:15 GMT -5
All good points, Rex. Given the area the Illyrians occupied, it is not so unlikely that Albanians are descendants of the Illyrians. We also can not rule out the same for Greeks.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2015 15:37:46 GMT -5
Not just Illyrians but Pelasgian/Etruscans Etruscan art ....with the simple Albanian Plis hat proves who our ancestors are
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2015 15:51:21 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Jul 18, 2015 13:15:21 GMT -5
- Alphonse de Lamartine: "This nation cannot be ignored... This is the land of the all time heroes.. Where Homer found Achilles... where the Greeks found the Great Alexander... The Turks found Scandebeg. Humans of the same race, with the same blood"
Maurico Druon- Secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belong to the nations who are older than the history, and the grandfathers of Albanians took part in the Troy War, ruled by Hector (...on one part) and by Achilles (on the other part)"
Prof.Braisfold: " From all the races that nowadays lives in Macedonia, only the Albanians can be called indigenous"
Prof.Branislav Nušić: "The Albanians are indigenous, who, during all the agitations managed to save their character and even emphasized it. They resisted on Roman's attacks, and survived the acute or the unnumbered Slavic migrations.. Who occupied all their lowlands, rivers and plains."
Dr. Dushko Costandinov: 1 may 1966 "The Albanians are the oldest living nation in the Balkans, direct descendants of the Illyrians who, had created the strongest country in the Balkan Peninsula"
Prof.Edvin Jacques: "Illyrians or Albanians, those tirelessness sons, were warriors of the Albania(ethnic) Ancestors of Achilles, Phipil, The Great Alexander and Pyrros of Epirous"
Prof. Sir Edwin Pears: "Albanians are the descedents of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula, an aryan race. Even the word "aryan" in their language means "pure gold" "
The Independent: It is not generally realized how much the United States has been a foster mother to the Albanian nationalist cause. Altho the Albanians are the descendants of the ancient Pelasgians and the oldest people in the Balkans, the Turkish government refused official recognition to the Albanian language, and forced the schools to be conducted in turkish.
The Independent, Volumes 78-79 The Independent Publications, incorporated, 1914
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Post by rex362 on Jul 18, 2015 13:22:22 GMT -5
Encyclopedia Britannica, p. 483:
“The Albanians are apparently the most ancient race in southeastern Europe. History and legend afford no record of their arrival in the Balkan Peninsula. They are probably the descendants of the earliest Aryan, immigrants, who were represented in historical times by the kindred Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirots; the Macedonians and Epirots are believed by Hahn to have formed the core of the pro-Hellenic Tyrrheno-Pelasgian population which inhabited the southern portion of the peninsula and extended its limits to Thrace and Italy. The Illyrians were also ” Pelasgian,” but in a wider sense. Of these cognate races, which are described by the Greek writers as barbarous or non-Hellenic, the Illyrians and Epirots, he thinks, were respectively the progenitors of the CÍegt, or northern, and the Tasks, or southern, Albanians”. The Via Egnatia, which Strain)(vii. fragment 3) describes as forming the boundary between the Illyrians and Epirots, practically corresponds with the course of the Shkumb, which now separates the Ghegs and the Tosks. The same geographer (v. 2.221) states that the Epirots were also called Pelasgians; the Pelasgian Zeus was worshipped at Dodona (Homer, II. xvi. 234), and the neighbourhood of the sanctuary was called Pelasgia (Herodotus ii. 56). The meaning of the term ” Pelasgian ” is, however, too obscure to furnish, a basis for ethnographical speculation; in the time of Herodotus it may have already come to denote a period rather than a race. The name Tosk is possibly identical with ’1′im.tts, Etruscus, while the form Tyrrhenus perhaps survives in Tirana“.
Culture worlds, Richard Joël Russell, Fred Bowerman Kniffen, 1951, p. 202:
“Thraco-Illyrian was one of the earliest Indo- European languages in Europe. It survives only in Albanian”.
One Europe, many nations: a historical dictionary of European national groups, James Minahan,2000, p. 29:
“The Albanian language forms the only surviving dialect of the Thraco-Illyrian branch of the Indo-European languages. Seems to validate the Albanian claim to be the Balkan peninsula’s original inhabitants“.
Balkan Background, Bernard Newman, 2007, p.231:
“Albania is the youngest country of the Balkans, but its people are the oldest. They are probably the descendants of the ancient Thracians and Illyrians; their language, despite infusions of words from neighboring races, is quite unlike any other Balkan tongue. At one time they occupied the whole of the Southern Balkans, and were a vigorous and dynamic people: Alexander the Great is claimed to have been of Albanian origin. Gradually they were encompassed in their present home, much as the Basques were crowded into their Biscayan corner, by the tribes surging from the east; or as the remnants of the British tribes were pushed westwards into the mountains of Wales”.
World history, Hutton Webster, P. 530:
“No other part of Europe of equal extent contains so many different peoples as the Balkan Peninsula. The original inhabitants are represented to-day by the Albanians”.
Albania, MaryLee Knowlton, Juvenile Nonfiction, 2005, p. 19:
“The Human History of Albania begins in the Paleolithic period, roughly 100.000 to 10.000 B.C. Tools retrieved from along the Ionian Sea show that an ancient civilization existed at the foot of Mount Dajti near Tirana. More recently, around 5000 B.C, a settlement in the southern coastal area left the remains of the Huts, earthenware, and tools. The civilization known as the Cakran Settlement also left vases decorated with painted motifs of human beings. These people were the ancient Illyrians, a loosely formed group of Mediterranean tribes who were ancestors to the peoples of classical Rome and Greece….”
The Earth and its inhabitants Europe, Elisee Reclus , Edited by E.G Ravensteir,E.R.G.S., F.S.,Rrc Vol. 1 Greece, Turkey in Europe, Rumania, Serbia, Montenogro, Italy, Spain and Portugal. New York 1882:
“The Shkipetars or Albanians are subdivided into two leading tribes or nations the Tosks and the Gheges both of whom are no doubt descended from the ancient Pelasgians but have in many places become mixed with Slavs Bulgarians and Rumanians and perhaps even with other nations for whilst in some tribes we meet with the purest Hellenic types there are others the members of which are repulsively ugly. The Gheges are the purest of their race and they occupy under various tribal names the whole of Northern Albania as far as the river Shkumbi. The territory of the Tosks extends from that river southward The dialects of these two nations differ much and it is not easy for an Acroceraunian to understand a Mirdit or other Albanian from the north Gheges and Tosks detest each other. In the Turkish army they are kept separated for fear of their coming to blows and when an insurrection has to be suppressed amongst them the Turkish Government always avails itself of these tribal jealousies and is certain of being served with the zeal and fury which hatred inspires. Up to the period of the migration of the barbarians the whole of Eastern Turkey as far as the Danube was held by Albanians But they were then pushed back and Albania was entirely occupied by Servians and Bulgarians.”
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CANADIAN INSTITUTE Third series vol. 1886-87:
“The primitive seat of the Aryans before their dispersion was in Europe. The Swiss lake dwellers and the old Pelasgians who survive in the Albanians of to day were descended from the primitive Aryan stock”.
A SCHOOL HISTORY OF THE GREAT WAR by ALBERT E. McKINLEY PG. 27:
‘The ALBANIANS. – The Albanian people are descended from the most ancient of all the races in the Balkan peninsula; their language is the oldest language spoken in Europe”
ALBANIA by Gloria La Cava, Raffaella Nanetii, 2000, p. 20:
“The country is ethnically very homogenous: 98 percent of its inhabitants are ethnic Albanians, descended from the Illyrian and Thracian tribes”.
The Journal of Race Development, 1912, p. 56:
“Thus the Albanians can justly claim to be one of the oldest and purest races in Europe”.
The new republic, Herbert David Croly, 1969, p. 197:
“The Albanians are the oldest people of the Balkans”
Macedonia, its people and history, Stoyan Pribichevich, 1982, p. 45:
“It is the prevalent view that the Albanians are direct descendants of the Illyrians, though they may partly come from the ancient Thracians or even the prehistoric Pelasgians“.
The Balkans, 1815-1914, Leften Stavros Stavrianos, 1963, p. 6:
“Thus today the descendants of these Illyrians, known as the Albanians, occupy only a small mountainous area along the southern Adriatic coast”.
Worldmark Encyclopedia of the Nations: Europe, Gale Group, 2001, p. 3:
“The Albanians are considered descendants of ancient Illyrian or Thracian tribes of Indo-European origin that may have come to the Balkan Peninsula even before the Greeks”.
European Diplomacy and the Balkan Problem, SP Duggan, 1913:
“Albania has been the Ulster of Turkey. Its inhabitants are descendants of the Thracians and Illyrians driven into the mountains by the Slavic invaders of the seventh and later centuries”.
Australian Slavonic and East European studies: journal of the Australian and New Zealand Slavists’ Association and of the Australasian Association for the Study of the Socialist Countries, Volumes 4-5, 1990, p. 200:
“The oldest surviving inhabitants are the Albanians, descendants of a group of peoples known as the Illyrians, the Thracians and the Dacians”.
The historians’ history of the world, Henry Smith Williams, 1909, p. 156:
“Of the Illyrians and Epirots only the wild Albanians, or Arnauts, are still in existence. Next to the Basques the Albanians are the oldest people in Europe”.
RENÉ RISTELHUEBER: Albanians are the oldest nation in the Balkans, are the descendants of the earliest aryan immigrants, Illyrians.
"As it seems, Albanians are the oldest nation in the Balkans. History and documents does not prove any migration of them in the peninsula. Probably, the descedents of the oldest Aryans, who were represented by the Illyrians. They spoke a language not related to any other Balkan language."
A History of the Balkan Peoples René Ristelhueber
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Post by rex362 on Jul 18, 2015 13:36:57 GMT -5
Giancito Bosco: The non-manipulated History proves the truth, the so called "Kosovo" in Serbian, which nowadays it's a internationally accepted name, since the ancient ages, much more earlier than the Hellens. It was populated by the Illyrians (Ilir = independent) the direct antecedents of the nation known as Albanians.
Albanians and Religion. Our Ancestors were Pagansists. Then we were the first and only Nation In the Balkans with Catholic Christian Faith. After the Numerous attacks of Slavs, Greeks and Turks we were forced to convert into their religions, so we ended with three religions. But according to everyone who visits Albania and to different independet resarches we are the most Tolerant Nation in Europe when it comes to Religion. Catholics, Muslims and Orthodox are brothers.
Why is this? Because in our culture we have this unique quote: "Blood, does not turn into water"
"The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ... "
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
Albanians are considered untouchable on the slave market because of their strong feelings for honor and the need for revenge.
- Pasha Sulejman the Lightened
They may be only soldiers, but never let them get close to your plate, and don't make them kneel before you, if you don't intend to decapitate them.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 2, 2015 14:00:15 GMT -5
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Post by Jon Do on Dec 4, 2015 21:37:12 GMT -5
I swear there's an albanian database somewhere on the net where albanians go to collect their arguments for their illyrian connection. Most Albanians don't even understand the "proofs" they're using let alone actually read the entire book or source.
Looking for that feel good line and paragraph is sad as fuck.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 7, 2015 13:03:19 GMT -5
well for simple fact that we have been fuked for 2000 years of our history/life ....pressed ,pushed,used,instigated on by others and sometimes our own we didn't have the time for making books or having a 16 million square foot museum so you can visit
so we must use that good ole common sense of things ....
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Post by rex362 on Dec 7, 2015 13:49:38 GMT -5
find this book by Dr. Aleksander STIPCEVIC
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Post by rex362 on Dec 7, 2015 13:54:30 GMT -5
"only to serbs and some greeks is the Albanians being the continuity of Illyrians considered racism "
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Post by Jon Do on Dec 7, 2015 19:58:56 GMT -5
well for simple fact that we have been fuked for 2000 years of our history/life ....pressed ,pushed,used,instigated on by others and sometimes our own we didn't have the time for making books or having a 16 million square foot museum so you can visit so we must use that good ole common sense of things .... THIS, by far is the WORST excuse ever ! You think the albies are the only people in Europe to have been pressed, pushed, instigated against, ravaged on the verge of annihilation? Yet still manage to document, write stories and build monuments/statues. What kind of complex are you trying to instill among your young albanian folk? Think about this for a sec. You sound like those black people who still complain about slavery as if they're the only ones who experienced it. Also, think about this; Civilizations don't get given their Great status, it is earned. IF the Illyrians were THAT weak to be annihilated then they weren't worthy of having a continuation. You're acting like you're entitled to something, I'm sorry, you are not.
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