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Post by telemaque on Nov 24, 2007 9:41:54 GMT -5
Romanians...
...very very very pathetic...
An Italian woman was killed by a gypsy...since then the anti-romanian feeling has considerably grown up...on media (footage sabout youngs and povertu in Romania etc) and streets...
VIDEO of apologies:
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 24, 2007 12:37:11 GMT -5
Why should they apologize and give account of themselves for things they never did? Are we representative of our people now? If an Alb steals something, should money go out of my pocket in order to repay the victim? This is the pathetic part. Those Romanians did nothing and should not be put on the spot for the things a few pr*cks have done.
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Post by epiroti on Nov 24, 2007 13:18:51 GMT -5
Wow! That was quite low. How on earth does a majour tv station ask such stupid question to people, like 'what do you think of thieves?', 'what do you think of rapists?', etc! Like these people are alliens, and their values are so different that they have to state the most basic things. If you want to turn public opinion around then have a better analysis of the situation, remind the general public to be more logical, to learn to differentiate things, but not getting some Romanians to say 'rape is wrong'.
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Post by diurpaneus on Nov 24, 2007 17:27:00 GMT -5
This amuses me. The gypsies from Romania and Bulgaria have invaded Western Europe. "Multiculturalism" will be put to the test now
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Post by superman on Nov 25, 2007 1:57:31 GMT -5
;D it will fail...
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Post by donnie on Nov 25, 2007 10:38:39 GMT -5
Not quite the image of the "superior" Romanians superman had in mind. What happened to Romania being a regional power? All I see there is subserviant people apologizing for something they're not guilty of. ---------------------------------
To reality. I too disagree with that video. It actually sends the wrong message. Apologizing implies having done something wrong; to apologize is thus to beg for forgiveness and show remorse for an earlier mistake. However, if I haven't done anything wrong, why apologize? This video promotes generalization, because it allows people to apologize for the crimes committed by others ... meaning that a crime of one or several Romanians is also the responsibility of the nation as a whole. And so, an apologize from all Romanians is in place.
Collective blame is quite common. Imo, such blame can only be made in some cases. For instance, if a state is exercising violence against another state or a region within the state, a silent population not demonstrating (which is a way of encouraging the government) against unjustified measures of agression is also guilty as an (indirect) accomplice.
In this case though, I see it as a mistake from those Romanians who unknowingly just took the blame for something they never did.
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Post by superman on Nov 25, 2007 11:52:29 GMT -5
donnie, not to forget that now in Romania the pensions are of about 350-400 EURO/month, minimum wage is 210 EURO, and the average wage is about 750-800 EURO. So, Romania is very fast converging with the EU. That's why Romanians who went to work in Italy now they are coming back.
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Post by donnie on Nov 25, 2007 12:05:27 GMT -5
Why bother with the apologies then?
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Post by telemaque on Nov 25, 2007 12:54:08 GMT -5
donnie, not to forget that now in Romania the pensions are of about 350-400 EURO/month, minimum wage is 210 EURO, and the average wage is about 750-800 EURO. So, Romania is very fast converging with the EU. That's why Romanians who went to work in Italy now they are coming back.
definetly out of topic...(at the same time not true)...
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Post by superman on Nov 25, 2007 14:37:46 GMT -5
not true? you don't live in Romania do you?
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Post by Kanaris on Nov 25, 2007 23:49:13 GMT -5
donnie, not to forget that now in Romania the pensions are of about 350-400 EURO/month, minimum wage is 210 EURO, and the average wage is about 750-800 EURO. So, Romania is very fast converging with the EU. That's why Romanians who went to work in Italy now they are coming back.definetly out of topic...(at the same time not true)... I think Tele is right..
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Post by superman on Nov 26, 2007 11:53:03 GMT -5
I'm now a humble man.
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Post by humbleman on Dec 2, 2007 13:43:31 GMT -5
Not quite the image of the "superior" Romanians superman had in mind. What happened to Romania being a regional power? All I see there is subserviant people apologizing for something they're not guilty of. --------------------------------- Yep I agree. I have to be humble and say that, yes the Albanians on this thread are absolutely right, and I think the Italians have behaved disgracefully during this period. But in a way I am glad that things like this are happening, because all the Romanians who prostitute themselves before Italians, thinking how wonderful they are, have a dose of reality. And superman promised to be humble. If you do see posts of his where he is not being humble: tell me and I'll sort him out.
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