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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 13:09:48 GMT -5
Why do they think Balkan (or Eastern European) ethno-states are better for raising a family, having a happy life or just a better place to live in generally?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 28, 2020 16:23:00 GMT -5
Versus where, the west?
As far as state institutions are concerned probably it is the same thing considering EEur states and certainly Balkan states are merely colonies of the west and follow their laws and trends as much as possible it seems.
Let me answer your question by following your question with another questions:
What is different between the west and Balkans?
I would say people themselves. Balkanians have been exposed to western trends for a far lesser
time frame and in many parts they still value the importance of family, which is something that is not much noticed in the west.
So it might boil down to what social influences would you want your kids subjected to?
1) Purely individualistic liberal viewpoint cherished in the west (by both system and people there). *in such case they can easily grow up never even wanting to have their own family but probably
opt for sharing their life with a dog instead. Not to mention being raised to be ashamed of being
white, male or wanting to even ever have a family (thanks to things like Greta type of propaganda)
2) Still socially conservative Balkans where kids will at least come across a lot of healthy
families and or individuals who share such family oriented views.
Imho west itself has been undermined by their own elite to basically gradually socially extinguish itself
and be replaced by third world people whom western elite perceives not only as dirt cheap labor but
also easier to manipulate (Kalergi summoned it up nicely as far as what their views are)
Rasing a healthy white kid in the west has become an ever increasing challenge I would say!
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 28, 2020 16:29:06 GMT -5
Let me also add to this that there is a lot of westerners who have moved from places like ultra-liberal
Sweden or Germany to places such as more socially conservative Hungary or some Americans to even Serbia due to the fact that they find the life-styles and over all culture far more agreeable vs where they
came from. I am sure this trend will likely increase from W.Europe for example towards E.Europe
which will in many aspects become refuge for many while W.Europe fades gradually into something unrecognizable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 17:32:49 GMT -5
Versus where, the west?
As far as state institutions are concerned probably it is the same thing considering EEur states and certainly Balkan states are merely colonies of the west and follow their laws and trends as much as possible it seems.
Let me answer your question by following your question with another questions:
What is different between the west and Balkans?
I would say people themselves. Balkanians have been exposed to western trends for a far lesser
time frame and in many parts they still value the importance of family, which is something that is not much noticed in the west.
So it might boil down to what social influences would you want your kids subjected to?
1) Purely individualistic liberal viewpoint cherished in the west (by both system and people there). *in such case they can easily grow up never even wanting to have their own family but probably
opt for sharing their life with a dog instead. Not to mention being raised to be ashamed of being
white, male or wanting to even ever have a family (thanks to things like Greta type of propaganda)
2) Still socially conservative Balkans where kids will at least come across a lot of healthy
families and or individuals who share such family oriented views.
Imho west itself has been undermined by their own elite to basically gradually socially extinguish itself
and be replaced by third world people whom western elite perceives not only as dirt cheap labor but
also easier to manipulate (Kalergi summoned it up nicely as far as what their views are)
Rasing a healthy white kid in the west has become an ever increasing challenge I would say!
I think you are also leaning to the way of thinking I refereed to, although you got more touch with Balkans so you still are more realistic, or rather more in-touch, than those I've been talking about.
The bold part is common in Balkans too. Those that own dogs before having children, don't plan families. I doubt being exposed to big family is necessarily sort of influence that can be beneficial. It can quite be the opposite. Its the sort of people your family is. An example, the people in Balkans and Eastern Europe have strange habit to make problem for some of their hardworking family members or friends in order to help those that are useless and (often) don't want to help themselves, which of course can have negative effect on the first category. There is also some incredibly dumb concept of meritocracy for just existing for all human beings. That's detrimental as its later transferred to all eras of society. Main source of our evil and incapable elite has its root there. I also think many of the people living in the West are unaware of it. Of course, there are families that teach their children valuable stuff too, but they are much more rare that I don't know much of them even though I know a lot of people from different classes.
Also its tragic that most clueless people are those that emigrated from our country to the West in 80's or earlier 90's because they are still mentally thinking its a "good ol' Yugoslavia era" and they even have some daydreams of returning back, opening their own business here (which by experience of other people I know often doesn't work because they lived in different societies for far too long). Then comes first generation of those born of Yugoslavian parents abroad, and after that some white folks from Germany/USA/Australia/Canada/UK people who think country like Poland, Slovakia, Serbia or Croatia would be fulfillment of their dreams. I've noticed many people think their elite robs them, but when you look at Europe as a continent, you can see the following: Scandinavian and some UK people understand the most the role of the government and institutions and why and what they are paying through taxation as well as their rights, then come Germany, France, Switzerland and Austria. The you got most of Eastern and Southern Europeans, where average citizen is clueless, even worse is the so-called elite in South Europe is often clueless too. Then you got rare exceptions (I'll take Serbia, Albania, and Moldova as notable examples) where you got nothing from the government and institutions, people are not only clueless but they are also willfully slaves, and are being proud of that. I'm especially surprised when I hear that from those that moved to USA, because people that move to USA are willing to live in a so called night-watchman state, and that makes it even more puzzling for me to desire for some sort of socialism after going to a country where strict individualism and free market is the way of living. So, I can understand the ambition to want more (normal human desire) but these people got to be realistic that, in total, they have way more than those that live here.
Now, it may seem like I only focused on bad things but that's because I just can't understand it what they actually want.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 30, 2020 10:27:37 GMT -5
LMAO recent true story in Athens :
Serbian (Bosnian descent) politician from Beograd comes in Athens with his plastic/silicone wife and his 2.00m tall huge bodyguard. While the mafijas was trying to negotiate for a house to buy, (basically wash dirty money any way possible) , he could not communicate with the greek owner due to lack of english knowledge, LMAO.... and then ... the bodyguard assumed this position. LMAO. Later, at the building entrance, a stupid local greko biggie "bodybuilder" (in glyfada we gots loads of them) heard the "strange voices" and tried to beat the mafijas, but had not seen the monster waiting outside and of course the monster almost kicked his ass....
talking about balkans... lmao
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