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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 11, 2022 21:36:09 GMT -5
first of all those scandi germanos clowns should explain :
SVENSKA (wtf) islandska (WTF)
The forefathers of our mess are those from this Nordic school calling Slavs as the youngest linguistic branch…..classic calling the kettle black right. Very Shqiptarian/Albanian lol hate Slavs (calling subuman) but eagerly and wanting to assimilate them into their own asap lol |
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jun 11, 2022 22:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 11, 2022 23:39:15 GMT -5
^ feel sorry for the Germans Aadmin, they really are the ‘meat’ in the sandwich.
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 12, 2022 10:33:42 GMT -5
Hi bros, this piece of sea between Rumeli (Romioi-Romanas) and Moreas (More=sea in slavic) in south greece this is some 10km of water, right. Did those ancient Slavs had the capacity to transfer huge sizes of populations over sea??? Or did they come via Corinth?
ORRRR THEY NEVER CAME AND ALWAYS LIVED THERE?  ?
RUSSIANS SAYS THAT SLAVIC HOMELAND IS IN THE BALKANS. WELL I SAY FREAKING GREECE.
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 12, 2022 10:37:46 GMT -5
you guys being Slavic view the rest of cultures as smth distant and magical.
But I am telling you ..... 5000 slavic toponyms were existing in Greece till 1926, when those saksans wiped the place and erased all tru history.
And those toponyms sounded like Bulgarian/Serbian/Makedonian, some... But many of them sounded like Russian or Ukrainian...
This is not simple. Please focus more on the Slavic part.
If Slavs were insignificant then NWO demons of death would not spend BILLIONS on erasing your history EVERYWHERE.
any book of his to check out speaking about Slavic?
Pyrro, I’m even criticising Anatoly Klyosov, l can’t fathom Y-DNA (R1a) as originally ‘Aryan’ who brought Aryan language into Europe and all the while R1b being Turkic? I think there is some bias from Klyosov. Brate, l know Slavs dominated the ‘country-side’ of modern Greece. Greeks only knew of ‘Polis’ and inhabited the cities. What is interesting Pyrro, the word Polis is cognate to Serbian Pole or Polje ‘field’. Serbs in the past spoke more like the Shopi of Eastern/Western Bulgaria……languages are always ‘evolving’. I think ‘maybe’ Putin has thrown a spanner into their plans. His exposed Biden, Son and Co with their Biolabs and dealings in Ukraine. We have never seen so many private jets arrive to Davos recently. When l hear the agent of Rothschilds, Soros talking about the need to dispose Putin. Putin must have hit a serious nerve to p.i.s.s the mega elites off lol Maybe the head of the snake is getting beheaded in Ukraine? Please have a read of Mario Allinei, he basically repeated OUR logical theory of the past. Remember all the lol from Shqiptars and others denials
Novi bro, do you rule?? or do you rule?? pick one or both!!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 12, 2022 19:00:49 GMT -5
Hi bros, this piece of sea between Rumeli (Romioi-Romanas) and Moreas (More=sea in slavic) in south greece this is some 10km of water, right. Did those ancient Slavs had the capacity to transfer huge sizes of populations over sea??? Or did they come via Corinth?
ORRRR THEY NEVER CAME AND ALWAYS LIVED THERE?  ?
RUSSIANS SAYS THAT SLAVIC HOMELAND IS IN THE BALKANS. WELL I SAY FREAKING GREECE.
Like l said brate, either they began as a people in the Balkans/Helm/Haimos or when the Turkic mass of people from Asia who brought into the region haplogroup (R1a) integrated with natives of haplogroup (I) forming a new refined language of proto-Slavic roughly 12,000 years ago? One thing for sure, they never had a migration from Baltics to Helm/Haimos but migrated from South to North and East. Mario Allinei talks about Ancient Romans (Italics and Greeks) were borrowing words from Slavs and Sklavi or Sclaveni (Serbs) were also borrowing words from these peoples. Mario Allinei says also Slavs are Autochthonous to the area. Anatoly Klyosov does say the ‘oldest’ specimen of R1a skeletal remains was found in Haimos or Helm (Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria to Crete) dated 12,000 years old. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 19:09:39 GMT -5
Reading you guys sometimes is like reading ten years old.
All you said is not even wrong, but its subject of personal opinion and thus irrelevant. I can give my irrelevant opinion if that makes you feel better: Whenever someone says "history of Serbs/Serbia", I am thinking about medieval Serbian state which is roughly modern Serbia, with the center in and around Morava. Before it, it was not Serbia. These people most probably had different tribal name, maybe even ethnic composition. All other interpretations are state of fiction to me and whether or not those people called themselves Serbs or not can't be concluded for sure. What it made it distinctive is not language or culture (similar cultures can loan language and culture one from another) but certain architectural style of churches, specific types of fortifications, and the idea of Nemanjic dynasty to keep people of different ethnic composition apart from Serbs, as well as holy kings and defenders of Christianity. The idea that existed until fall of Smederevo. The idea that decayed once their servants became rulers of Serbia (knez Lazar, and Lazarevic dynasty, as well as Brankovic). They were simply not God given which is why they lost all battles and fought on Ottoman side later on. The Nemanjic dynasty and its specifics all make it distinct from even other neighbouring Slavic countries. Note here, I said countries, not nations. That's because I see big role of Orthodox Serbian church into transfering many of non-Serbs to Serbs in terms of ethnic identity. Many Serbs of today and feeling some sense of beloning and they don't want to be ousted out but we got to keep it real here and keep feelings aside to reality. That's wrong and destructive for nation. Nemanjic dynasty left only in traces in neighbouring countries (Montenegro). But you can't know all that if your historians are popular historical propaganda channels and if you like to believe that Santa exists.
Now in oder to get the discussion back to the point:
Proto-Indo-Europeans were R1a and R1b carriers. Haplogroup I was not one of them. Yambaya R1b carriers would indeed fall on darker European spectre back in those days (I found out Vlade Divac is R1b), but due to selection process many R1b today aren't dark. Process that favoured paler R1b individuals. Anyway, the whole point is not to assume that Serbs existed as a nation 12000 years ago (they almost certainly didn't as did not any modern nation), but to guess migration of present day Serbians ancestors, and what culture they belonged to before they mingled with Indo-Europeans. As well as where they moved.
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 14, 2022 0:24:06 GMT -5
Like l said brate, either they began as a people in the Balkans/Helm/Haimos or when the Turkic mass of people from Asia who brought into the region haplogroup (R1a) integrated with natives of haplogroup (I) forming a new refined language of proto-Slavic roughly 12,000 years ago? protoslavic forming in the balkan which "accidentaly" was the same like ancient Indian? My view is that Indians/Slavs were the same large mass of people communicating via channels we know nothing about. |
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 14, 2022 0:37:24 GMT -5
Reading you guys sometimes is like reading ten years old. All you said is not even wrong, but its subject of personal opinion and thus irrelevant. I can give my irrelevant opinion if that makes you feel better: Whenever someone says "history of Serbs/Serbia", I am thinking about medieval Serbian state which is roughly modern Serbia, with the center in and around Morava. Before it, it was not Serbia. These people most probably had different tribal name, maybe even ethnic composition. All other interpretations are state of fiction to me and whether or not those people called themselves Serbs or not can't be concluded for sure. What it made it distinctive is not language or culture (similar cultures can loan language and culture one from another) but certain architectural style of churches, specific types of fortifications, and the idea of Nemanjic dynasty to keep people of different ethnic composition apart from Serbs, as well as holy kings and defenders of Christianity. The idea that existed until fall of Smederevo. The idea that decayed once their servants became rulers of Serbia (knez Lazar, and Lazarevic dynasty, as well as Brankovic). They were simply not God given which is why they lost all battles and fought on Ottoman side later on. The Nemanjic dynasty and its specifics all make it distinct from even other neighbouring Slavic countries. Note here, I said countries, not nations. That's because I see big role of Orthodox Serbian church into transfering many of non-Serbs to Serbs in terms of ethnic identity. Many Serbs of today and feeling some sense of beloning and they don't want to be ousted out but we got to keep it real here and keep feelings aside to reality. That's wrong and destructive for nation. Nemanjic dynasty left only in traces in neighbouring countries (Montenegro). But you can't know all that if your historians are popular historical propaganda channels and if you like to believe that Santa exists. Now in oder to get the discussion back to the point: Proto-Indo-Europeans were R1a and R1b carriers. Haplogroup I was not one of them. Yambaya R1b carriers would indeed fall on darker European spectre back in those days (I found out Vlade Divac is R1b), but due to selection process many R1b today aren't dark. Process that favoured paler R1b individuals. Anyway, the whole point is not to assume that Serbs existed as a nation 12000 years ago (they almost certainly didn't as did not any modern nation), but to guess migration of present day Serbians ancestors, and what culture they belonged to before they mingled with Indo-Europeans. As well as where they moved.
no need to iterate over the obvious we are too old for that, but : a) we are not talking about Serbs here. IMHO Serbs are just a subset of the much bigger thing b) paternal or maternal lineage is a faulty way to assess anything at all. Imagine we get a person, we do all the covid vaccines on "it", we do as many experiments we want, we let it multiply for 10-20 generations..... mixing it with africans, robots, american indians, etc... STILL the paternal and maternal line of the descendents will be the same with the prototype (depending on its sex). But the end genetic material will be 1/(1 billion) related with the original.
Is the top left grand grand father more imprtant than the top 2nd from the left grandfather? Is the top right grand grand mother more imprtant than the top 2nd from the right grandmother?
why do you ppl keep on re-iterating this stupid stories? And also you connected Divac DNA with his looks, hahahahah that was divine.
We are not biologists here, and biologists like the rest of medical sciences have blown it royaly in almost all important fields.
You are trying to understand the obscured past based on methods that are guaranteed to create an obscure future.
Ulf son, you are working hard to educate yourself, to differentiate, to be the brigtest bulb in the house, to distant from modern saksan practices, but in essense all you do is function in a strict saksan mindset. And as you will understand some day (I hope), this is a sterile way of thinking. destined to fail.
I and Novi for years and years have seen beyond the trivia, have seen the oxymorons, the hoax, and have tried to find a global solution to the problem, by many methods combined. Using our brains. (which are very scientific and solid I can assure you).
If there are 10-yrs with our kind of brain, this is good news for the mankind.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 14, 2022 6:15:40 GMT -5
Now in oder to get the discussion back to the point:
Proto-Indo-Europeans were R1a and R1b carriers. Haplogroup I was not one of them. Yambaya R1b carriers would indeed fall on darker European spectre back in those days (I found out Vlade Divac is R1b), but due to selection process many R1b today aren't dark. Process that favoured paler R1b individuals. Anyway, the whole point is not to assume that Serbs existed as a nation 12000 years ago (they almost certainly didn't as did not any modern nation), but to guess migration of present day Serbians ancestors, and what culture they belonged to before they mingled with Indo-Europeans. As well as where they moved.
Ulf, it’s not necessarily always about ‘looks’. Finnish people of Northern Europe are predominately Y-DNA (N) and they are on average the ‘most’ blond or a measure of pure Caucasian/Caucasoid. Haplogroup (N) is associated with North and East Asians. When (N) became its own individual group, it was grouped with (O), as (NO). The Chinese and other mongoloid peoples most dominate either (O) or (N). GUESS WHAT! Nikola Jokic is Y-DNA (N), Serbs on average are Y-DNA (N) at a rate of about 2%.
Serbs are predominately Haplogroup (I) either as I1 or I2a. Paleo-European. Ulf, do Semites speak agglutinative language? Semites are haplogroup (J). In the ancient past before Semites became Semites, both this ancient Semitic (J) and our paleo-European (I) were one haplogroup known as (IJ).
I’ve read the papers from ANATOLY KLYOSOV, he CALLS carriers of R1b as ancient TURKIC PEOPLE who spoke an agglutinative language NOT RESEMBLING any form of INDO-EUROPEAN, however, l find him contradicting when he speaks about (R1a) as the ARYANS who brought into Europe an Aryan language? Whilst their brothers, carriers of haplogroup R1b are Arbins (Ancient Turks)? It does not make any sense to me at all. Now, linguists classify modern BASQUE as a form of agglutinative language…….GUESS WHAT……the Basques are carriers of R1b. I’ve also seen links to modern Spanish having some words or Turkic origin, how does this happen?
My opinion falls in line with Slovenian ANTON PERDIH, l wholeheartedly agree with him that both R1a and R1b were both Turkic. The modern Turk tribe of WESTERN CHINA, the UYGURS, are predominately a combination of R1a + R1b. We also find the Bashkirs strongly R1b at 60%.
Back to Anatoly Klyosov, he wrote that the SERBS are the oldest nation, right? He makes this claim that the oldest skeletal remains of R1a is roughly 12,000 years old found in Helm/Haimos (Serbian and Greek name for Balkans). He also claims, based on Skeletal remains, that Haplogroup (R1b) is no more than 4,000 to 4,500 years old on the continent of Europe. He claims that the R1b carriers were responsible for mass GENOCIDE in Western Europe, having wiped out carriers of (I) and (R1a) almost completely. We find (I) basically on the periphery of Western Europe like in Sardinia.
Anyway, there could be no chance for R1a and R1b having any relation to be called the forefathers of proto-aryans. Either it began when R1a and carriers of (I) formed a new proto-aryan culture (VINCA) or the so-called hunter gatherers (I) were the Aryans.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 14, 2022 6:30:05 GMT -5
why do you ppl keep on re-iterating this stupid stories? And also you connected Divac DNA with his looks, hahahahah that was divine.
Pyrro, l just don’t understand why Serbs in general are ashamed of Vlade Divac’s looks? His looks are 100% Serbian to me, they are not out of the ordinary Serbian typical look. Some Serbs can be Scan-dinav-ian looking to Lebanese/Semitic, it’s just what it is……..hehe l generally find blonde and milky white Northern Europeans ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 13:17:28 GMT -5
Reading you guys sometimes is like reading ten years old. All you said is not even wrong, but its subject of personal opinion and thus irrelevant. I can give my irrelevant opinion if that makes you feel better: Whenever someone says "history of Serbs/Serbia", I am thinking about medieval Serbian state which is roughly modern Serbia, with the center in and around Morava. Before it, it was not Serbia. These people most probably had different tribal name, maybe even ethnic composition. All other interpretations are state of fiction to me and whether or not those people called themselves Serbs or not can't be concluded for sure. What it made it distinctive is not language or culture (similar cultures can loan language and culture one from another) but certain architectural style of churches, specific types of fortifications, and the idea of Nemanjic dynasty to keep people of different ethnic composition apart from Serbs, as well as holy kings and defenders of Christianity. The idea that existed until fall of Smederevo. The idea that decayed once their servants became rulers of Serbia (knez Lazar, and Lazarevic dynasty, as well as Brankovic). They were simply not God given which is why they lost all battles and fought on Ottoman side later on. The Nemanjic dynasty and its specifics all make it distinct from even other neighbouring Slavic countries. Note here, I said countries, not nations. That's because I see big role of Orthodox Serbian church into transfering many of non-Serbs to Serbs in terms of ethnic identity. Many Serbs of today and feeling some sense of beloning and they don't want to be ousted out but we got to keep it real here and keep feelings aside to reality. That's wrong and destructive for nation. Nemanjic dynasty left only in traces in neighbouring countries (Montenegro). But you can't know all that if your historians are popular historical propaganda channels and if you like to believe that Santa exists. Now in oder to get the discussion back to the point: Proto-Indo-Europeans were R1a and R1b carriers. Haplogroup I was not one of them. Yambaya R1b carriers would indeed fall on darker European spectre back in those days (I found out Vlade Divac is R1b), but due to selection process many R1b today aren't dark. Process that favoured paler R1b individuals. Anyway, the whole point is not to assume that Serbs existed as a nation 12000 years ago (they almost certainly didn't as did not any modern nation), but to guess migration of present day Serbians ancestors, and what culture they belonged to before they mingled with Indo-Europeans. As well as where they moved.
no need to iterate over the obvious we are too old for that, but : a) we are not talking about Serbs here. IMHO Serbs are just a subset of the much bigger thing b) paternal or maternal lineage is a faulty way to assess anything at all. Imagine we get a person, we do all the covid vaccines on "it", we do as many experiments we want, we let it multiply for 10-20 generations..... mixing it with africans, robots, american indians, etc... STILL the paternal and maternal line of the descendents will be the same with the prototype (depending on its sex). But the end genetic material will be 1/(1 billion) related with the original.
Is the top left grand grand father more imprtant than the top 2nd from the left grandfather? Is the top right grand grand mother more imprtant than the top 2nd from the right grandmother?
why do you ppl keep on re-iterating this stupid stories? And also you connected Divac DNA with his looks, hahahahah that was divine.
We are not biologists here, and biologists like the rest of medical sciences have blown it royaly in almost all important fields.
You are trying to understand the obscured past based on methods that are guaranteed to create an obscure future.
Ulf son, you are working hard to educate yourself, to differentiate, to be the brigtest bulb in the house, to distant from modern saksan practices, but in essense all you do is function in a strict saksan mindset. And as you will understand some day (I hope), this is a sterile way of thinking. destined to fail.
I and Novi for years and years have seen beyond the trivia, have seen the oxymorons, the hoax, and have tried to find a global solution to the problem, by many methods combined. Using our brains. (which are very scientific and solid I can assure you).
If there are 10-yrs with our kind of brain, this is good news for the mankind.
I am not discussing paternal or maternal origin of someone but rather migrations of Y-DNA haplogroup, hence male population. Males were carriers of family in Europe, and essentially in all cultures but some Semitic. Saying all carriers of I2a or I1 are Serbs is false. I did not connect Y-DNA to Divac's look but saying that this his skin tone falls within Yamnaya peoples norm, and today this is norm only in Southern Europe. Genetics is pretty reliable science in combination with data science. Even without data science its used in court to verify paternity tests and other relevant things. If you don't believe me you can check for yourself how based on large base of online DNA profiles in the US they found murderers that they couldn't find for 40 years using conventional methods, based on machine learning and data science algorithms. It is you who tries to mix modern culture with ancient people. Or rather to link two groups of barely related people through assumed origins of mystical common founder. Now in oder to get the discussion back to the point:Proto-Indo-Europeans were R1a and R1b carriers. Haplogroup I was not one of them. Yambaya R1b carriers would indeed fall on darker European spectre back in those days (I found out Vlade Divac is R1b), but due to selection process many R1b today aren't dark. Process that favoured paler R1b individuals. Anyway, the whole point is not to assume that Serbs existed as a nation 12000 years ago (they almost certainly didn't as did not any modern nation), but to guess migration of present day Serbians ancestors, and what culture they belonged to before they mingled with Indo-Europeans. As well as where they moved.Ulf, it’s not necessarily always about ‘looks’. Finnish people of Northern Europe are predominately Y-DNA (N) and they are on average the ‘most’ blond or a measure of pure Caucasian/Caucasoid. Haplogroup (N) is associated with North and East Asians. When (N) became its own individual group, it was grouped with (O), as (NO). The Chinese and other mongoloid peoples most dominate either (O) or (N). GUESS WHAT! Nikola Jokic is Y-DNA (N), Serbs on average are Y-DNA (N) at a rate of about 2%. Serbs are predominately Haplogroup (I) either as I1 or I2a. Paleo-European. Ulf, do Semites speak agglutinative language? Semites are haplogroup (J). In the ancient past before Semites became Semites, both this ancient Semitic (J) and our paleo-European (I) were one haplogroup known as (IJ). I’ve read the papers from ANATOLY KLYOSOV, he CALLS carriers of R1b as ancient TURKIC PEOPLE who spoke an agglutinative language NOT RESEMBLING any form of INDO-EUROPEAN, however, l find him contradicting when he speaks about (R1a) as the ARYANS who brought into Europe an Aryan language? Whilst their brothers, carriers of haplogroup R1b are Arbins (Ancient Turks)? It does not make any sense to me at all. Now, linguists classify modern BASQUE as a form of agglutinative language…….GUESS WHAT……the Basques are carriers of R1b. I’ve also seen links to modern Spanish having some words or Turkic origin, how does this happen? My opinion falls in line with Slovenian ANTON PERDIH, l wholeheartedly agree with him that both R1a and R1b were both Turkic. The modern Turk tribe of WESTERN CHINA, the UYGURS, are predominately a combination of R1a + R1b. We also find the Bashkirs strongly R1b at 60%. Back to Anatoly Klyosov, he wrote that the SERBS are the oldest nation, right? He makes this claim that the oldest skeletal remains of R1a is roughly 12,000 years old found in Helm/Haimos (Serbian and Greek name for Balkans). He also claims, based on Skeletal remains, that Haplogroup (R1b) is no more than 4,000 to 4,500 years old on the continent of Europe. He claims that the R1b carriers were responsible for mass GENOCIDE in Western Europe, having wiped out carriers of (I) and (R1a) almost completely. We find (I) basically on the periphery of Western Europe like in Sardinia. Anyway, there could be no chance for R1a and R1b having any relation to be called the forefathers of proto-aryans. Either it began when R1a and carriers of (I) formed a new proto-aryan culture (VINCA) or the so-called hunter gatherers (I) were the Aryans. Kloysov is small businessman. He is some sort of Russian Deretic for me. He inserts a pieces of truth and mix it with his own agenda, whatever that might be, but for most part its just for selling his thought provoking ideas and theories in written form (books). I already described earlier what is known about the looks of those early carriers of haplogroups R1a and R1b, and why modern population look the way they look in some of the previous comments on this forum. I can't repeat all the time the same things. why do you ppl keep on re-iterating this stupid stories? And also you connected Divac DNA with his looks, hahahahah that was divine.Pyrro, l just don’t understand why Serbs in general are ashamed of Vlade Divac’s looks? His looks are 100% Serbian to me, they are not out of the ordinary Serbian typical look. Some Serbs can be Scan-dinav-ian looking to Lebanese/Semitic, it’s just what it is……..hehe l generally find blonde and milky white Northern Europeans ugly. He's atypical here, but he looks European, just more common in proper South Europe. Most of the Serbs look right where they geographically belong, and that's either Central Europe or northern parts of Southeastern Europe. |
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 14, 2022 16:02:53 GMT -5
why do you ppl keep on re-iterating this stupid stories? And also you connected Divac DNA with his looks, hahahahah that was divine.Pyrro, l just don’t understand why Serbs in general are ashamed of Vlade Divac’s looks? His looks are 100% Serbian to me, they are not out of the ordinary Serbian typical look. Some Serbs can be Scan-dinav-ian looking to Lebanese/Semitic, it’s just what it is……..hehe l generally find blonde and milky white Northern Europeans ugly.
Novi All I am saying is that patternal / maternal DNA represent a tiny tiny fraction of true DNA, due to the maths of the thing.
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 14, 2022 16:05:57 GMT -5
ulf so some alien from outerspace was stuffing slavs and indians together in school and by force taught them the same sanskrit-slavic language...
darn scientific ... LMAO
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 14, 2022 16:08:56 GMT -5
I am not discussing paternal or maternal origin of someone but rather migrations of Y-DNA haplogroup, hence male population. Males were carriers of family in Europe, and essentially in all cultures but some Semitic. Saying all carriers of I2a or I1 are Serbs is false. I did not connect Y-DNA to Divac's look but saying that this his skin tone falls within Yamnaya peoples norm, and today this is norm only in Southern Europe. Genetics is pretty reliable science in combination with data science. Even without data science its used in court to verify paternity tests and other relevant things. If you don't believe me you can check for yourself how based on large base of online DNA profiles in the US they found murderers that they couldn't find for 40 years using conventional methods, based on machine learning and data science algorithms.
The winning race installs settles males/females on the conquered lands. The losing race loses women mostly due to migration.
your theory of migration is sub-10-yr old.
lingustics is the biggest part, that's why saksans will over analyze the pseudo-genetic part.
keep on dancing on their silly tunes that make them do 10 mistakes every 2 lines of text.... way to go UZ ooppss ULF
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 17:32:45 GMT -5
I am not discussing paternal or maternal origin of someone but rather migrations of Y-DNA haplogroup, hence male population. Males were carriers of family in Europe, and essentially in all cultures but some Semitic. Saying all carriers of I2a or I1 are Serbs is false. I did not connect Y-DNA to Divac's look but saying that this his skin tone falls within Yamnaya peoples norm, and today this is norm only in Southern Europe. Genetics is pretty reliable science in combination with data science. Even without data science its used in court to verify paternity tests and other relevant things. If you don't believe me you can check for yourself how based on large base of online DNA profiles in the US they found murderers that they couldn't find for 40 years using conventional methods, based on machine learning and data science algorithms.
The winning race installs settles males/females on the conquered lands. The losing race loses women mostly due to migration.
your theory of migration is sub-10-yr old.
lingustics is the biggest part, that's why saksans will over analyze the pseudo-genetic part.
keep on dancing on their silly tunes that make them do 10 mistakes every 2 lines of text.... way to go UZ ooppss ULF
Not necessarily. This is all circumstantial. That's why there is autosomal sampling and comparison between the population. I explained all before but you selectively picked only things you like to hear. I got no problem with hearing things I don't like so long as they are truthful. Leave fictions to poets of epic songs and sci-fi writers. |
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 14, 2022 18:28:20 GMT -5
Kloysov is small businessman. He is some sort of Russian Deretic for me. He inserts a pieces of truth and mix it with his own agenda, whatever that might be, but for most part its just for selling his thought provoking ideas and theories in written form (books).
I already described earlier what is known about the looks of those early carriers of haplogroups R1a and R1b, and why modern population look the way they look in some of the previous comments on this forum. I can't repeat all the time the same things.
Ulf, Deretic and Klyosov aren’t perfect, they have their flaws. I think both are more REALISTIC than others. I agree with Klyosov that the Out-Of-Africa ‘theory’ is a load of rubbish. Anton Perdih Slovenian Academic talks about certain genetic groups being ‘birthed’ independently, instead of a simplistic line connection that we see, example Y-DNA A00 to A then to B to C etc….Anton Perdih explains earthly events and erasing of some groups that are our connections to other groups, the simplistic line connection concocted today is illogical and does not really prove much.
Don’t you think the current theory of ‘out of Africa’ holds any logical weight.
Agreed, R1a and R1b are Caucasoid, skeletal remains from their original homeland of Siberia show carriers of this group/s as being Caucasoid. Carriers of them being forefathers of an Aryan Culture is flawed. One need consider India should had been an earlier Aryan mass than later, why? India has more variations and older clades of R1a than the continent of Europe, but ‘became’ Aryanised only 4,000 years ago when their was a back migration of peoples who carried with them R1a (Aryanised Turks).
Digressing a little have you thought about India might have been named as (V)India by the newly arrived Aryans there? Vind/Vend Veneti slo-VEN-i (Ven means kinship). Italian City Venice is near us.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 14, 2022 18:57:26 GMT -5
ulf so some alien from outerspace was stuffing slavs and indians together in school and by force taught them the same sanskrit-slavic language...
darn scientific ... LMAO
Pyrro, Sanskrit is most closest to modern Serbian than anything else.
I’ve read papers describing certain populations and their languages developing based on genetics. What l mean, the Northern Slavs are inverse to Balkan Slavs with respect to % of (I) and (R1a). The Northern Slavic accent is much more rough and tougher due to higher % of R1a. The Baltic group birthed due to infusion of haplogroup (N) and separated from Slavic etc etc etc…..Estonian is inverse to Balts with R1a and N and speak Finno-Uralic.
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 15, 2022 4:49:23 GMT -5
Novi all those theories neglect a basic parameter : God.
Humans were given life, the first civilizations must certainly have been a result of Divine intervention.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 15, 2022 5:15:11 GMT -5
^ your right, just like the blessing being a parent!
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