Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 27, 2007 22:25:31 GMT -5
Frankenstein coming to life kills soul?
Can 21 century and advancing centuries make such scientific fiction into scientific reality, lets look at some of the previous scientific actors and some of their experiments. Also is such course of events occurs will this effectively prove that soul is nonexistent and thus is the need for all the man made religions (since then science has been gradually stamping out such primitive human caveman urges). Many of the bellow names have been demonized by the real demons in charge of the day and that is the clergy and some of the clergy inspired 'academia'. The basic idea is that human body is nothing more then a natural mechanism and that understanding such mechanism more will improve us. Genetic engendering, cloning and other related scientific endeavors appear related somehow. World is changing rapidly right before us and even the sense of morality which will also become more and more scientifically inspired (versus religiously inspired).
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Luigi Galvani (September 9, 1737 – December 4, 1798) was an Italian physician and physicist who lived and died in Bologna. In 1771, he discovered that the muscles of dead frogs twitched when struck by a spark.[1] He was a pioneer in modern obstetrics, and discovered that muscle and nerve cells produce electricity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani
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Giovanni Aldini (April 10, 1762 -- January 17, 1834), Italian physicist born at Bologna, was a brother of the statesman Count Antonio Aldini (1756-1826) and nephew of Luigi Galvani, whose treatise on muscular electricity he edited with notes in 1791. His scientific work was chiefly concerned with galvanism and its medical applications, with the construction and illumination of lighthouses, and with experiments for preserving human life and material objects from destruction by fire. He also engaged in public demonstrations of the technique, such as on the executed criminal George Forster at Newgate in London.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Aldini
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Andrew Ure (pronounced to rhyme with "Pure") (18 May 1778 – 2 January 1857) was a Scottish doctor. Born in Glasgow, he gained fame by his speeches and writings that advocated the great benefits of industrial capitalism. Ure fundamentally rejected the darker side of capitalism, arguing that workers were "willing menials," who were provided with "abundant food and accommodations without perspiring from a single pore."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Ure
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Johann Conrad Dippel (August 10, 1673 on Frankenstein Castle (Bergstrasse)-April 25, 1734 at Wittgenstein Castle near Bad Laasphe) was a German pietist theologian, alchemist and physician. He studied theology, philosophy and alchemy at the University of Giessen obtaining a master degree in theology in 1693. He published many theological works under the name Christianus Democritus, most of them are still preserved. He led a very adventurous life, and often got into trouble because of his disputed opinions (and because of money). He wrote that religion should not be dogma, but rather, should be exclusively love and self-sacrifice. During his stay in Frankenstein Castle he practiced alchemy and anatomy. While at Frankenstein Castle he created an animal oil known as Dippel's Oil which was supposed to be the equivalent to the Elixer of Life. Working with nitroglycerin he destroyed a tower, but also detected the medicinal use of it. It is rumored that he also preformed gruesome experiments within this tower with so called “cadavers.” Though the actual details of the experiments have never been truly confirmed it is rumored that he attempted to transfer the soul of one cadaver into another. It should be noted that this particular experiment was only rumored to have happened, but he did perform gruesome experiments that eventually caused him to be driven out of town—when word of his activities reached the ears of townspeople he was thrown out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Conrad_Dippel
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Sparks of life
Mark Pilkington
Thursday October 7, 2004
The Guardian
In January 1803, the body of the murderer George Forster was pulled from the gallows of Newgate Prison in London and taken to the Royal College of Surgeons. There, before an audience of doctors and curiosity-seekers, Giovanni Aldini, nephew of the late Luigi Galvani, prepared to return the corpse to life.
At least, that is what some of the spectators thought they were witnessing. When Aldini applied conducting rods, connected to a large battery, to Forster's face, "the jaw began to quiver, the adjoining muscles were horribly contorted, and the left eye actually opened". The climax of the performance came as Aldini probed Forster's rectum, causing his clenched fist to punch the air, as if in fury, his legs to kick and his back to arch violently.
Aldini's was one of many such experiments on corpses. He and other "galvanists" were continuing the research of the late University of Bologna anatomist who, a decade previously, had demonstrated the effects of electrical current on frogs' nervous systems. In line with late 18th century "vitalist" ideas about a life force, Galvani proposed the existence of "animal electricity". This electrical juice, he suggested, was generated in the brain, flowing through the nerves and supplying muscles with power.
Although a great proponent of electricity's medical potential - it was used to treat paralysis, rheumatism, as a purgative and to revive drowned people - Aldini admitted that he was unable to restart a heart.
Others were less modest, including Carl August Weinhold, a German scientist who claimed to have brought animals back from the dead. In a series of experiments, Weinhold extracted the spinal cords of decapitated kittens, replacing them with zinc and sliver pile batteries, which generated an electrical charge. Not only did their hearts start beating but, according to Weinhold, the kittens bounded around for several minutes.
Weinhold would later propose enforced genital infibulation for all young men, an idea received with less enthusiasm than his prancing zombie kittens.
The electrifying demonstrations of Aldini, Weinhold and others contributed much to our understanding of physiology and electricity. Perhaps their greatest claim to fame was inspiring Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1818), the book that forever shaped the popular image of the mad scientist.
www.guardian.co.uk/
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Please vote and state your opinions. (Note: By Frankenstein I simply mean bringing a dead person back to life and not necessarily a monster as known in popular media).
Can 21 century and advancing centuries make such scientific fiction into scientific reality, lets look at some of the previous scientific actors and some of their experiments. Also is such course of events occurs will this effectively prove that soul is nonexistent and thus is the need for all the man made religions (since then science has been gradually stamping out such primitive human caveman urges). Many of the bellow names have been demonized by the real demons in charge of the day and that is the clergy and some of the clergy inspired 'academia'. The basic idea is that human body is nothing more then a natural mechanism and that understanding such mechanism more will improve us. Genetic engendering, cloning and other related scientific endeavors appear related somehow. World is changing rapidly right before us and even the sense of morality which will also become more and more scientifically inspired (versus religiously inspired).
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Luigi Galvani (September 9, 1737 – December 4, 1798) was an Italian physician and physicist who lived and died in Bologna. In 1771, he discovered that the muscles of dead frogs twitched when struck by a spark.[1] He was a pioneer in modern obstetrics, and discovered that muscle and nerve cells produce electricity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani
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Giovanni Aldini (April 10, 1762 -- January 17, 1834), Italian physicist born at Bologna, was a brother of the statesman Count Antonio Aldini (1756-1826) and nephew of Luigi Galvani, whose treatise on muscular electricity he edited with notes in 1791. His scientific work was chiefly concerned with galvanism and its medical applications, with the construction and illumination of lighthouses, and with experiments for preserving human life and material objects from destruction by fire. He also engaged in public demonstrations of the technique, such as on the executed criminal George Forster at Newgate in London.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Aldini
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Andrew Ure (pronounced to rhyme with "Pure") (18 May 1778 – 2 January 1857) was a Scottish doctor. Born in Glasgow, he gained fame by his speeches and writings that advocated the great benefits of industrial capitalism. Ure fundamentally rejected the darker side of capitalism, arguing that workers were "willing menials," who were provided with "abundant food and accommodations without perspiring from a single pore."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Ure
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Johann Conrad Dippel (August 10, 1673 on Frankenstein Castle (Bergstrasse)-April 25, 1734 at Wittgenstein Castle near Bad Laasphe) was a German pietist theologian, alchemist and physician. He studied theology, philosophy and alchemy at the University of Giessen obtaining a master degree in theology in 1693. He published many theological works under the name Christianus Democritus, most of them are still preserved. He led a very adventurous life, and often got into trouble because of his disputed opinions (and because of money). He wrote that religion should not be dogma, but rather, should be exclusively love and self-sacrifice. During his stay in Frankenstein Castle he practiced alchemy and anatomy. While at Frankenstein Castle he created an animal oil known as Dippel's Oil which was supposed to be the equivalent to the Elixer of Life. Working with nitroglycerin he destroyed a tower, but also detected the medicinal use of it. It is rumored that he also preformed gruesome experiments within this tower with so called “cadavers.” Though the actual details of the experiments have never been truly confirmed it is rumored that he attempted to transfer the soul of one cadaver into another. It should be noted that this particular experiment was only rumored to have happened, but he did perform gruesome experiments that eventually caused him to be driven out of town—when word of his activities reached the ears of townspeople he was thrown out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Conrad_Dippel
____________________________
Sparks of life
Mark Pilkington
Thursday October 7, 2004
The Guardian
In January 1803, the body of the murderer George Forster was pulled from the gallows of Newgate Prison in London and taken to the Royal College of Surgeons. There, before an audience of doctors and curiosity-seekers, Giovanni Aldini, nephew of the late Luigi Galvani, prepared to return the corpse to life.
At least, that is what some of the spectators thought they were witnessing. When Aldini applied conducting rods, connected to a large battery, to Forster's face, "the jaw began to quiver, the adjoining muscles were horribly contorted, and the left eye actually opened". The climax of the performance came as Aldini probed Forster's rectum, causing his clenched fist to punch the air, as if in fury, his legs to kick and his back to arch violently.
Aldini's was one of many such experiments on corpses. He and other "galvanists" were continuing the research of the late University of Bologna anatomist who, a decade previously, had demonstrated the effects of electrical current on frogs' nervous systems. In line with late 18th century "vitalist" ideas about a life force, Galvani proposed the existence of "animal electricity". This electrical juice, he suggested, was generated in the brain, flowing through the nerves and supplying muscles with power.
Although a great proponent of electricity's medical potential - it was used to treat paralysis, rheumatism, as a purgative and to revive drowned people - Aldini admitted that he was unable to restart a heart.
Others were less modest, including Carl August Weinhold, a German scientist who claimed to have brought animals back from the dead. In a series of experiments, Weinhold extracted the spinal cords of decapitated kittens, replacing them with zinc and sliver pile batteries, which generated an electrical charge. Not only did their hearts start beating but, according to Weinhold, the kittens bounded around for several minutes.
Weinhold would later propose enforced genital infibulation for all young men, an idea received with less enthusiasm than his prancing zombie kittens.
The electrifying demonstrations of Aldini, Weinhold and others contributed much to our understanding of physiology and electricity. Perhaps their greatest claim to fame was inspiring Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1818), the book that forever shaped the popular image of the mad scientist.
www.guardian.co.uk/
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Please vote and state your opinions. (Note: By Frankenstein I simply mean bringing a dead person back to life and not necessarily a monster as known in popular media).