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Post by yahadj on Feb 13, 2008 23:36:10 GMT -5
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Fender
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Post by Fender on Feb 15, 2008 0:09:55 GMT -5
Don't know about him being cricified, but he was certainly crucified. ;D
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MiG
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Post by MiG on Feb 15, 2008 1:05:22 GMT -5
Yes.
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Zvone
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Post by Zvone on Feb 15, 2008 12:02:54 GMT -5
A friendly debate about two delusional-contradictive-hypocritical 'faiths.' Which one is more wrong? Hm, tough one.
If you believe in the New Testament he was. If you don't, then no. I highly doubt Jesus of the bible existed. He was just another symbolic character created in the epic saga of symbolic literature which was very popular at the time.
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MiG
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Post by MiG on Feb 15, 2008 13:14:18 GMT -5
Zvone, did you ever see the movie Zeitgeist?
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Post by yahadj on Feb 16, 2008 7:16:43 GMT -5
What the Muslims of Bosnia think?
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Post by yahadj on Feb 16, 2008 7:48:42 GMT -5
Was Jesus God or human?
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Post by amoureux24 on Feb 16, 2008 17:56:31 GMT -5
U srcu Isaa ima ljubavi spram Boga! Poruka je nebeska, koja mi se otkrila, kad mi se u rujau snu pokazao Isa a.s. i mati njegova postovana hazreti Mejrem a.s.. Bijahu nasmjeseni i sretni. Isaa a.s. je izgledao kao bijelac sa crnom bradom i jakom celjusti, niti ovalnom niti okruglom glavom vec vrlo lijepog izgleda. Ali nije imao siljatu celjust kako ga obicno freske slikaju i u statuama predstavljaju. Imao je blago valovitu kosu i prijatan osmjeh tako lijep kao kad se skoljka otvori pokazu se bijeli sjajni zubi kao biser, a oci radosne toplog pogleda kao da pozivaju u skute nebeske milosti i blazenstva.
Njegova mati Mejrem a.s. bijese slicna onoj iz filma od Mel Gibsona sa finijom kozom i blagim izrazom lica.Njen osmjeh cinio ju je iznimno lijepom.
Lice Isa a.s je slicilo njezinom sto je potvrda da je dobila Isaa a.s. po nadahnucu rijeci Bozije.
On je stajao na desnoj a ona pored njega na lijevoj strani i kao da bijahu na nekoj uzvisici.
Neka ih Allah dragi blagoslovi! Amin.
To sto mi je glas nebeski rekao da u srcu Isaovom a.s. ima ljubavi spram Boga ocitaje jedan vrlo vazan temelj vjere da je Allah dz.s. Bog a Isa a.s. poslanik. Ljubav Isaova a.s.je osnova njegove poslanicke misije spram Boga a radost koja mu se ocrtava na licu je kao Indzil ili Evandjelje sto znaci radosna vijest koji mu je objavljen.
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Post by tyson on Feb 17, 2008 23:27:14 GMT -5
What the Muslims of Bosnia think? i think its pretty obvious the muslims of bosnia would have the same answer as any other muslims think in regards to this. they will answer with whatever it refers to in the qua'ran. they are muslims, so they will speak the muslim point of view. what else do you expect them to say?
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Post by engers on Feb 19, 2008 8:55:35 GMT -5
Was Jesus cricified? NO Was Jesus God or human? Jesus was Human, he was God's MESSENGER. [ftp]http://www.jesuswillreturn.com/index2.html[/ftp]
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niquetamere
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Post by niquetamere on Feb 19, 2008 13:50:38 GMT -5
No he wasn't.
Its amazing how Muslims love Christ more than the Christians do.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 19, 2008 17:17:25 GMT -5
No he wasn't.
You say that like you where there or have some proof. Truth is that your own belief and teaching will dictate what you believe.
I believe he was crucified and I believe he is the Son of God. That is my belief what others beleive is not my concern nor will i try and shove my belief down anyone elses throat, beleive what you will and dont force your belief on anyone else and we will have peace on this planet.
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Post by yahadj on Feb 20, 2008 13:56:53 GMT -5
I can only say I wasn't there. I don't know how did it worked out. I don't know If he had sexual intercourse against her will at that age. Or he had any sexual interaction at all with her until ceratin age. I don't know those thing, neither you do. We didn't witness it. Let's asume he did opression and injustice, then what I can say is that he had sinned and Allah would decide on his account. But if he didn't then I can say you are terrible liar and you will be acounted for that, too. Beacuse Mohammed is human being, he is able to sin. He is not the son of God and no human being is. Being prophet doesn't make you automatically perfect. It means you become commited to perfection. But anyway, girls in the past used to mature early and get married early and give birth early and die early. And after all he is marrying her with the approval of the parents of that girl. If there is a sin then it is shared. Also marrying somebody doesn't mean you are commiting rape. I don't know where did you get that idea. Is that what you do at home??? Rape you wife??? I am pretty sure for the girl it would have been more like marrying that famous prince with the white horse. But prematurely. I don't know if in that case she would have felt harrassed or blessed to marry the most famous man of Arabia. But I am pretty sure she wouldn't have had the Western feminist mentality of today. ;D The perfection is only a feature of Almighty God. May Allah gives us good faith, wisdom and determination against commiting terrible sins... Amin!
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