niquetamere
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Ancient Bosnian Serbatron
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Post by niquetamere on Feb 25, 2008 0:34:04 GMT -5
I have a couple of points that I believe just about everyone in the world gets except all three sides in BiH.
First of all, RS will never be independent nor will Bosniaks and Croats be able to erase that entity. You guys have spent way too much time trying to make that happen and what does the world keep telling you? 'wont happen.'
I consider myself a logical person so I would like to ask why is it so hard for you Bosnians to wake up and realize that the current status you have is the best you'll get for quite a long time? Why not use your energy to help each other in that little country so the people arent so poor?
Is nationalism the biggest problem? I don't understand Dodik and co. Dodik went to Belgrade to give a speech last week and everyone booed him. The guy is a joke to everyone except some people in RS. Why do people continue to support these politicians like Dodik and Silajdzic that continue to keep you guys on a leash and in a frozen still stage?
IMHO, Bosnia needs to people that are either from mixed marriages and have no particular side to choose than the Bosnian once since that tag is applied to all sides.
You people are all Bosnians-Herzegovnians no matter how many flags, symbols and crap you try to paint all over your houses and cars. You are painted like a joke to people outside your country so why not make peace with the fact that BiH needs to entities to function?
Help each other so your kids have something to live from and not have every other kid want to leave the country.
You are at fault for supporting idiots who run your country (respect to Zeljko Komsic though(, but Siladzic and Dodik are fools and you who support them are no better than them because you care more about your stupid micro-culture stock nationalism than helping out your younger generations that are in need of your help. How do you sleep at night knowing you care more about separation than working towards something better?
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Post by osmano on Feb 25, 2008 6:51:04 GMT -5
nor will Bosniaks and Croats be able to erase that entity. You guys have spent way too much time trying to make that happen and what does the world keep telling you? 'wont happen.' Sooner or later it must happen since the majority of the citizens of Bosnia want it to happen,, the cetniks will not be allowed to block democracy forever. I would like to ask why is it so hard for you Bosnians to wake up and realize that the current status you have is the best you'll get for quite a long time? Because you are wrong. Is nationalism the biggest problem? I would say lack of democracy is. Today we have a cetnik minority standing in the way of Bosnias EU and Nato membership because this cetnik minority is allowed to block all progress. Why do people continue to support these politicians like Dodik and Silajdzic Why do idiots compare cetniks like Dodik with democrats like Silajdzic? that continue to keep you guys on a leash and in a frozen still stage? No it is the anti-democratic communist-era ethnic-key-system that allows the cetnik minority to do just that. IMHO, Bosnia needs to people that are either from mixed marriages and have no particular side to choose than the Bosnian once since that tag is applied to all sides. IMHO mixed marriages create bastard jugoslavs who prefer do equalize victims and aggressors which per definition makes them defenders of evil. flags, symbols and crap you try to paint all over your houses and cars. Please stop with the insults. why not make peace with the fact that BiH needs to entities to function? I consider it highly immoral for anyone to defend the existence of the genocide-entity created by Mladic and Karadzic. Anyone who claims that Bosnia cant function without rewarding the genocide committed by cetniks should be considered an enemy of the state. Help each other so your kids have something to live from and not have every other kid want to leave the country. The best help is EU and Nato integration which will continue to be impossible as log we allowed the cetnik minority to block all progress.
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bihvojska
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"A Great Man is Remmbered By What He Has Created Not By What He Has Destoryed"
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Post by bihvojska on Feb 27, 2008 21:28:19 GMT -5
niquetamere has a good point, and is right on everything. How can u support all of this retard political leaders who just want separation and are looking to divide Bosnia up. People living in Bosnia must realize that they are Bosnian no matter what flag they have and what ever there religion is, you're a citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina and that makes you Bosnian. People need to unify not divide. If people in Bosnia dont change Bosnia's Future is fucked. The government in Bosnia is plain shit, it has no progress what so ever, they sit and watch people Ruin Bosnia, Bosnia's government needs to stand up stop the cetniks from Blocking Bosnia's way to Eu. Eu could be good help in Bosnia. Hopefully people will change and Bosnia will be come one day a Strong European nation.
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Post by tripwire on Feb 27, 2008 21:44:04 GMT -5
^^^^ In your dreams, Sellout!!
Dude that was really offencive. Rethink some things you write.
Regards, MiG.
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Post by yahadj on Feb 28, 2008 5:36:23 GMT -5
Bosnia is already an European nation. So that part already achieved. What needs to be accomplished is to get stronger based on its own distinct identity. Not just one regular European country out of the common crowd. Country that is based on strong moral and cultural foundations. Becoming one ordinary sheep in the European herd is not a big achievement. Strive for better and even the best. That is how you can get out of this mess. Think big....
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Feb 28, 2008 12:08:56 GMT -5
Yeah, right.
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Post by osmano on Feb 28, 2008 13:35:50 GMT -5
Democrat = A proponent of democracy, rule of the people = citizens of BiH = the national parliament and not some genocide-entity or ethnic minorities.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 28, 2008 16:46:00 GMT -5
pfft these sort of comments/ideas is precisley why there will never be unity in BIH.
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Post by osmano on Feb 28, 2008 17:30:53 GMT -5
pfft these sort of comments/ideas is precisley why there will never be unity in BIH. There should never be unity with fascists who keep defending the genocide-entity and the idea that their votes should count as much as twice more then the votes of other citizens.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 28, 2008 17:59:49 GMT -5
And there wont be, so you have what we have now. As far as voting goes how does it actualy work ? Is it one vote Croats One vote Bosniaks one Vote serbs ? If it is then Serb votes should be counted as 2 it wouldnt be fair.
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Post by osmano on Feb 28, 2008 20:32:53 GMT -5
And there wont be, so you have what we have now. As far as voting goes how does it actualy work ? Is it one vote Croats One vote Bosniaks one Vote serbs ? If it is then Serb votes should be counted as 2 it wouldnt be fair. The constitutional model in Montenegro is fair because it is democratic. But don’t worry Bosnia has time on it’s side, the majority of the citizens of Bosnia want democracy and sooner or later they will get it,, the cetniks will not be allowed to block democracy forever.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 28, 2008 20:46:17 GMT -5
In my opinion,
when the effort to try and pick apart RS stops you will have what you want a functioning BiH until then it will remain deadlocked.
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Post by radovic on Feb 28, 2008 20:53:49 GMT -5
And there wont be, so you have what we have now. As far as voting goes how does it actualy work ? Is it one vote Croats One vote Bosniaks one Vote serbs ? If it is then Serb votes should be counted as 2 it wouldnt be fair. The constitutional model in Montenegro is fair because it is democratic. But don’t worry Bosnia has time on it’s side, the majority of the citizens of Bosnia want democracy and sooner or later they will get it,, the cetniks will not be allowed to block democracy forever. Montenegro constitutional model is so democratic that the government didn't put the constitution to a public referendum nor consult civil society or the opposition. Nor dissolve the government and schedulte new elections soon after. That's what, four democratic norms that weren't respected.
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Post by osmano on Feb 28, 2008 21:31:32 GMT -5
In my opinion, when the effort to try and pick apart RS stops you will have what you want a functioning BiH until then it will remain deadlocked. Nazi Germany was a “functioning state” and that is simply not enough, Bosnia and the citizens of Bosnia deserve democracy and will get democracy,, everything else is just fascist illusions which will be crushed sooner or later,, inshallah.
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Feb 29, 2008 11:54:43 GMT -5
If it is then Serb votes should be counted as 2 it wouldnt be fair. WTF?! I didn't know that there was so little of you in Bosnia.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 29, 2008 16:37:35 GMT -5
Totaly unfair
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Demonel
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Post by Demonel on Feb 29, 2008 16:57:32 GMT -5
Serb votes should be counted as 2 thing is pure BS, how many should Bosniak votes in RS count? 100? 200?
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Post by vinjak on Mar 1, 2008 0:18:29 GMT -5
Nah man I was talking about the Leaders and there votes.
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Mar 1, 2008 8:05:30 GMT -5
And what was i talking about?
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Post by vinjak on Mar 1, 2008 17:15:13 GMT -5
And what was i talking about?I have no idea all of a sudden your talking about 100, 200 votes.
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