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Post by Siroki_B on Oct 12, 2007 21:56:02 GMT -5
Lipizzaner horses that stolen and taken to Serbia during the Balkan wars and allegedly were neglected here, headed home to Croatia on Friday.
They are of the breed made famous by Austria's famed Spanish Riding School, and known for their ability to perform elegant balletic maneuvers and leaps.
The 65 horses were being transferred in trucks from a farm in northern Serbia where they had ended up years after they were brought here in 1991, said Serbian government official Sanja Celebicanin.
The transfer is part of an agreement between Serbia and Croatia which ended a years-long dispute over ownership of the herd, and compensation for their care.
Serbian media and an animal rights group have reported that the animals were neglected and suffered starvation at the Serbian farm, whose owner Todor Bukinac had demanded money in return for feeding them.
Celebicanin said the horses were in "good and medium condition," but healthy. It was not immediately clear whether all the horses would go to Croatia at once.
Crime doesnt pay. !!!
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Post by radovic on Oct 15, 2007 16:43:16 GMT -5
How is this a crime. Would you have preffered Serbs killed all the horses in the war.
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Post by Siroki_B on Oct 15, 2007 19:23:44 GMT -5
The horses were stolen and taken illegally to serbia where they were held hostage and mistreated for 16 years. They were heavily malnourished causing international outrage and condemnation by various animal rights organisations, and were ultimately held to ransom for a some of 300 000. All in all, a crime in my book.
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Zvone
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Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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Post by Zvone on Oct 15, 2007 19:41:30 GMT -5
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You're right.
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Post by radovic on Oct 16, 2007 9:06:11 GMT -5
The horses were stolen and taken illegally to serbia where they were held hostage and mistreated for 16 years. They were heavily malnourished causing international outrage and condemnation by various animal rights organisations, and were ultimately held to ransom for a some of 300 000. All in all, a crime in my book. Actually from what I've heard from animal rights groups is that they were taken to Serbia where a man kept them and then after about 11 years (in 2002) when Croatia demanded these horses be returned he malnourished them because he wanted compensation for the money he spend on them up to that time. Yes they were taken from Croatia. But you didn't answer my question? Would you have preffered that Serbs killed those horses, considering that some Croat officials have claimed those horses as a "national symbol" I think it would have been worst if they were killed then taken to Serbia.
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Zvone
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Post by Zvone on Oct 16, 2007 14:12:42 GMT -5
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Of course death would have been worse, but that's not the point.
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Post by radovic on Oct 17, 2007 13:00:38 GMT -5
^ Of course death would have been worse, but that's not the point. What is the point. A war happenned. The keepers of those horses run away as the place was in the war zone area. Due to the war and after a lasting ceasefire was signed no one was taking care of the courses. A Serb from near Novi Sad decided to take care of them and of his own private initiative brought them to Serbia. He contacted the Croatian embassy in budapest at least twice in the 90s about bringhing the horses back, but Croat authorities refused. Then after the change of regime in 2002 Croat officials declare him a thief and demand the return of the horses and label them a national treasure despite the fact that Croats actually refused the return of the horses. After this happens he refuses to give the same concern to the horses as he did before. After bickering for 5 years they are returned and he receives compensation for this. How is he a thief? He took care of horses that were abondoned and that for sometime the Croats refused to take back. Not only that if he stole them then he should have used them for personal gain. The 300,000 euros are meant to cover the costs he spent on those horses and the debts that result due to them. Not only that if he actually want to profit from these horses he could have just sold them for more then the 300,000 euros he recieved since Lippizaners are famous due to the Spanish Ruiding School in Austria, Lippizaners are rarely sold. I have a better question. Why are Croats making a big deal about absolutely nothing. Not even that why have Croat officials claimed the Lippizaners as a "national synmbol" when Lippizaners are from Slovenia, and are a symbol of Slovenia and not in any way connected to Croatia.
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