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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 13:29:10 GMT -5
The Albanians are probably the genuine representatives of the ancient Illyrians, who were perhaps of the same stock as the Macedonians A handbook of Greece 1918 Vol 1, page 75
The historians' history of the world, Henry Smith Williams, 1909, p. 156:
Of the Illyrians and Epirots only the wild Albanians, or Arnauts, are still in existence. Next to the Basques the Albanians are the oldest people in Europe".
Australian Slavonic and East European studies: journal of the Australian and New Zealand Slavists' Association and of the Australasian Association for the Study of the Socialist Countries, Volumes 4-5, 1990, p. 200: "The oldest surviving inhabitants are the Albanians, descendants of a group of peoples known as the Illyrians, the Thracians and the Dacians
Worldmark Encyclopedia of the Nations: Europe, Gale Group, 2001, p. 3:
"The Albanians are considered descendants of ancient Illyrian or Thracian tribes of Indo-European origin that may have come to the Balkan Peninsula even before the Greeks".
The Balkans, 1815-1914, Leften Stavros Stavrianos, 1963, p. 6: "Thus today the descendants of these Illyrians, known as the Albanians, occupy only a small mountainous area along the southern Adriatic coast".
Macedonia, its people and history, Stoyan Pribichevich, 1982, p. 45:
"It is the prevalent view that the Albanians are direct descendants of the Illyrians, though they may partly come from the ancient Thracians or even the prehistoric Pelasgians
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 13:15:42 GMT -5
Albanians are descended from the Illyrians, an ancient people settled in the mountains of the southwest from at least 1000 BC. Their difficult and remote terrain has enabled their language and culture to escape assimilation. Encyclopedia of World Geography: Eastern Europe - Page 1830, Peter Haggett - 2002
The original territory of the Albanians, in the high mountains from Kruje to the Sar range, represented the contraction of unlatinized Illyrians, who eluded the Roman assimilatory faculties
The national question in Yugoslavia: origins, history, politics - Page 46 Ivo Banač - 1988
From this Celto - lllyrian stock the modern Albanian descends. He is thus the oldest inhabitant of the Balkan peninsula, and the tact that he has survived the successive invasion and rule of the Romans, Bulgars.
Peoples of all nations: their life to-day and the story of their past: Volume 1; Volume 1, Sir John Alexander Hammerton, Sir John Alexander Hammerton, 1922
Albania was here before Greece knew an existence. The racial stock of Albania ties back further into the past than do the Greeks. Of all the people of southeast Europe the Albanians are the oldest. They have better claim to having been the fundamental stock in this part of the world than any other.
Our World, Volume 4, The Houston Publishing Company, Inc, Jan 1, 1923, p. 66
The Albanians are an Indo-Europian race speaking a language frequently believed to be the oldest in Europe…’ Eastern Europe in the twentieth century By R.J.Crampton page 22 (1994)
“The Albanians are the oldest original inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula…’ The world book: organized knowledge in story and picture - Page 147 by Michael Vincent O'Shea, Ellsworth D. Foster, George Herbert Locke - Juvenile Nonfiction - 1917
"The Albanians are the oldest people of the Balkans" The new republic - Page 197 by Herbert David Croly - 1969
"Between the Albanian and the Slav there stand centuries of hatred and blood feud. The Albanian regards the Slav as an intruder and a robber; the Slav looks on the Albanian as an inconvenient person who, though occasionally beaten, has always refused to be conquered; and, having the inestimable advantage of being more skilled in literature, he has consistently represented the voiceless Albanian as a brigand and a plunderer of Slav villages. As a matter of history, the boot is on the other foot. Setting aside the fact that both Albanian and Slav can be, and are, brigands on occasion, the Albanian and his kindred had been for centuries quarrelling comfortably among themselves when the Slav hordes poured across the Danube, and drove the old inhabitants by sheer weight of numbers from the plains to the uplands, and from the uplands to the mountains ... In every town and district which the Slavs can claim by right of conquest under some nebulous and transitory Empire, the Albanians can oppose the title of original ownership of the soil from ages when neither history nor the Slavs were known in the Balkans"
Wadham Peacock 1913 'The Wild Albanian'
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 12:49:18 GMT -5
"The Albanians are descendants of the ancient Illyrians. who lived in central Albania Europe and migrated southward to the Gulf of Arta in northern Greece by the beginning of the Iron Age". The New Encyclopaedia Britannica: Volume 1, 2005
They are strewn with the wreckage of dead Empires – past Powers – only the Albanian "goes on for ever." - Edith Durham
Historical evidence links present-day Albanians directly with the Illyrians, Trojans, Thracians, Dalmatians and the ancient tribes of Epirus. Despite all the efforts of politically committed researchers over past few decades, it is difficult to dispute this proposition.
Yugoslavia and after: a study in fragmentation, despair and rebirth, David A. Dyker, Ivan Vejvoda, Longman, 1996, p. 236
"The Albanians are generally considered to be the most ancient ethnic group in Southeastern Europe. They are the descendants of pre-Hellenic stock that was pushed back into the mountains of the western Balkans by the Hellenes and the Slavs. In this respect the Albanians may be compared to the Celts of the British Isles who were forced into the mountains of Wales, Scotland, and Ireland by the Anglo-Saxon invaders. The Albanian language is organically distinct from the neighboring Slavic and Greek languages in the same manner that the Celtic language is different from the Germanic".
The Balkans since 1453, Leften Stavros Stavrianos, Traian Stoianovich, C. Hurst & Co. Publishers, 2008, p. 496-497
Albanians are the only Balkan nation, apart from the Greeks, which did not undergo assimilation to a Slavic language. Albanians are direct descendants of the Illyrians...
Ethnic groups and population changes in twentieth-century ... - Page 356, Piotr Eberhardt - 2003
“The characteristics and mode of lide of these people are obscure, but it is thought that, of the two, the Illyrians were the later comers who drove the Thracians eastward into the central Balkan regions. By some authorities the modern Albanians are thought to represent the only relic of the ancient Illyrian population that has survived to the present day”.
A short history of Yugoslavia from early times to 1966 By Stephen Clissold, Henry Clifford Darby, p. 8
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 12:22:16 GMT -5
this topic is Albanians + - Illyrians
go find your "where slavs come from" topic some other place..or go start one
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 12:11:42 GMT -5
Bulgarian expansionist period n the powerful church
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 12:05:32 GMT -5
Albanians originate from Illyrians, one of the indigenous peoples of the Balkan Peninsula. They are the descendants of the Illyrian tribes that, living in isolated mountain areas, although to some extent Romanized under the rule of the ancient Rome, avoided assimilation to the Slavs invading the area sometime during the seventh century.
(The rule of law in comparative perspective, Mortimer Sellers, Tadeusz Tomaszewski – 2010, p.202)
"Yet modern Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, the descendants of the ancient Illyrians, who in the fifth century bc were mentioned by the Greeks as inhabiting the peninsula together with the Thracians". Eagles in cobwebs: nationalism and communism in the Balkans, Paul Lendvai,1969, p. 28:
Harvard Slavic studies: Volume 1, 1953, p.365: "...the Albanians (descendants of the aboriginal Illyrians and Thracians)"
The International geographic encyclopedia and atlas, Houghton Mifflin Company,1979,p. 14: "The Albanians are reputedly descendants of Illyrian and Thracian tribes".
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 11:38:50 GMT -5
saxon curse ?
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 10:57:00 GMT -5
sokol will say what a pro -Macedon will say
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 10:46:08 GMT -5
mention us ...yep
but not entering the Balkans
did they mention gypsies entering europe? actually they are by far older in the Balkans than slavs
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 10:35:45 GMT -5
we took the elevator and then made a left turn and up the escalator where we
came out of a cave and white Plis hats were placed on our heads while reciting prayer
of Appolonia .....the saxon was witnesses
the UFO above recorded it all on vhs tape back then
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 10:14:48 GMT -5
But I believe Rezho's role is not to pose any real resistance to the common Logic. No he simply cant do this. Rezho's role is to eat away your strengths and resources . A troll. So its role is to stall you not stop you. I have long stopped giving it any attention.
My role is to bring you back home .....bro
wash the slav off of you with salt and vinegar and then after
they dry you off the vlahinka woman will spray honey and wine on you while dancing around you
and then polishing you off with some Windex being sprayed on you
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 10:10:10 GMT -5
A monk from Hungary visited Southern Albania in the mid-18th century: While visiting Greece in 1768, upon being called to a visit by "some Albanians", he stayed one year with them. He became familiar with the people and "learned Albanian". Dositej emphasizes their relation to the Serbs: "How (strange) it was for me to hear these same Albanians say, 'Whoever governs Serbia, and we too will acknowledge that ruler, because the Serb kings were ours once, too'".
Dositej continues about his tenure with the Albanians, "Not too far from Hormove, beautiful fields were described which the Albanians call 'Lepa-zhite'. I asked them what this meant. 'We don't know,' they told me. 'That's just the name of the field'.
When I clarified what this meant, telling them that this is a Serbian word, "Oh, holy man," they answered, "Don't be surprised; we were once one family and tribe with the Serblyans in ancient times".
The Cetinje Herald Dositej among the Albanians April. 2. 1911
you stole that from Novi .....
that story is no different than reading one of Pyrros's post of how he had parking problems
by some albagreks
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 10:06:48 GMT -5
"Since the Illyrians are referred to for the last time as an ethnic group in Miracula Sancti Demetri (7th century AD), some scholars maintain that after the arrival of the Slavs the Illyrians were extinct."
wow ..same geographic area we Albanian n Vlachs reside today .....what a coincident
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 9:45:05 GMT -5
"Little is known about the slavs before they are mentioned in Byzantine records of the 6th century"
and you enter byzantine records in the 11th century. mention us ...yep
but not entering the Balkans
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 17:49:17 GMT -5
ETHNIC CHANGES IN THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE IN THE SEVENTH CENTURY" PETER CHARANIS :
"The native Illyrians and Thracians of the occupied regions retired into the mountains, where they remained unnoticed till the eleventh century, when they emerged as Albanians and Vlachs"
ps...no worries Pyrros bro ....we have you covered ...
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 17:33:30 GMT -5
Pyrros ,Novi and Brani's anti saxon song & dance
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 16:20:29 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 16:18:51 GMT -5
math your ass off bro .....
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 15:31:43 GMT -5
back on topic before Leo gets here and rightfully deletes all this crapola ...
bottom line :
"Little is known about the slavs before they are mentioned in Byzantine records of the 6th century"
so everything else pre 6th century is fairytales by pyrros and his accomplice Novi and of course
little follower Brani that just eggs them on
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:33:31 GMT -5
which exact post ?? lots of pages
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