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Post by Balkaneros on May 13, 2013 12:20:31 GMT -5
The Tribali tribe of Pollog and has no connection with the Slavs ...... Vjosava the daughter of GËRGURI a Pollog ruler Gerguri is an Albanian name still to this day actually ...... Vjosava Trbaldi Muzaka Castrioti
Vjosava Tribaldi nots Vojsava Brankovic
You're such an idiot rex, who is Gerguri of Prolog? this guy; Grgur of Prolog, --- Grgur --albanised into Gerguri en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87H e held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family. He is mentioned as a caesar in a letter from Pope Innocentius VI to the Emperor dated 1347.[3][4] Grgur is mentioned in charters of Dušan dated 1348-54 for the Sveti arhanđeli monastery in Prizren, which points to that Grgur held a region around Prizren. Grgur and Bishop Grigorije of Devoll founded the Zaum monastery (Church of the Holy Virgin Zaumska, Bogorodica Zahumska) on Lake Ohrid near Zaum, to which he brought the cult of the Virgin of Zahumlje (hence its name). how many Grgurs of Prolog were around at the time? who had daughters named Vojsava? Now you you just got smack right up the side of your head with reality... I can feel it from here.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 13, 2013 12:15:16 GMT -5
you srbs and grks are p!ssed at the fact that this great Albanian George unifies Albanians across the board regardless of what religion they are .... something that maybe srbs & grks cannot comprehend bcs they themselves are created as an ethno by a religion I just died laughing for a good few mins had to get a grip of myself as to wtf you just said. What you just said there was straight recording from Hoxha and the foundation of the lie... man that guy really held you guys.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 12, 2013 18:38:44 GMT -5
I think you know well that what you're trying to peddle here is complete BS. You're right, back then... however when the Serbs inhabitated the land "Triballians" was synonymus to "Serbian". Even Albanian scholars have documented this, along with the Byzantines, British, Austrians and Greeks. I didn't even show you one-Serb source. Look at the links I provided... read my full post - the answers are all there. Who was Voisava's father? How can you try to argue she was Illyrian... they were extinct long before wtf man.... It is high treason for a Greek or Serb to acknowledge Albanians as descendants of the Illyrians It keeps their conception of a Quasi Genetic unity of each of their races together -Fact- is Singidunum synonymus to serbia anything ?? stfu If you're not going to take academia seriously... then why do you bother, you just keep making an ass of yourself. (repost) However, the term "Triballians" (Triballoi) appears frequently in Byzantine and other European works of the Middle Ages, referring exclusively to Serbs. Gjon Muzaka, an Albanian nobleman of the Muzaka family, alleged in his Muzaka Chronicle ( published in 1510) that the "Marquis of Tripalda" was maternally related to the Muzaka.[7] Furthermore, in another chapter, he assigns the "Triballi" to the Serbs.[8] books.google.ca/books?id=jFPQAAAAMAAJ&q=triballians&hl=enen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voisava_Tripalda#cite_note-4Some of these authors clearly explain that "Triballian" is synonym to "Serbian". For example, Niketas Choniates (or Acominatus, 1155–1215 or-16) in his history about Emperor Ioannes Komnenos: "... Shortly after this, he campaigned against the nation of Triballians (whom someone may call Serbians as well) ..."In the 15th century, a coat of arms of "Tribalia", depicting a wild boar with an arrow pierced through the head (see Boars in heraldry), appeared in the supposed Coat of Arms of Emperor Stefan Dušan 'the Mighty' www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/554790?uid=3739448&uid=2&uid=3737720&uid=4&sid=21102206587031books.google.ca/books?id=VGdoAAAAMAAJ&q=triballians&hl=enThe Triballians are the Serbs"books.google.ca/books?id=AdbgOudLnj4C&pg=PA48&dq=triballians&hl=en#v=onepage&q=triballians&f=falsebooks.google.ca/books?id=XnKgAAAAMAAJ&hl=enen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi#SerbiaWith the beginning of the First Serbian Uprising, the Parliament adopted the Serbian Coat of Arms in 1805, their official seal depicted the heraldic emblems of Serbia and Tribalia. Voisava's Father; [/em] Grgur Golubić - Skanderbegs' grand-father
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family. He is mentioned as a caesar in a letter from Pope Innocentius VI to the Emperor dated 1347.[3][4] Grgur is mentioned in charters of Dušan dated 1348-54 for the Sveti arhanđeli monastery in Prizren, which points to that Grgur held a region around Prizren. Grgur and Bishop Grigorije of Devoll founded the Zaum monastery (Church of the Holy Virgin Zaumska, Bogorodica Zahumska) on Lake Ohrid near Zaum, to which he brought the cult of the Virgin of Zahumlje (hence its name). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87You also have names you cannot run away from like; Stanisha Jelena George (name was given on Djurdjevdan) Vlajka Mara Enciclopedia genealogica del Mediterraneo
-Branilo (+ assassinato a Jannina nel 1379 circa), di origine serba, Governatore di Jannina nel 1368. Sposa N.N. -Voisava Tripalda, figlia del signore serbo di Pologwww.genmarenostrum.com/pagine-lettere/letterac/CASTRIOTA%20E%20BRANAI.htmSkanderbeg's grand-father; Grgur Golubić (Father of Voisava)
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87Voisava's grand-Father (Skanderbegs' great-grandfather) Branko Mladenović
Branko Mladenović (Serbian: Бранко Младеновић) was a 14th-century Serb feudal lord in the Lake Ohrid border region (Old Serbia) in 1346 between the Serb lands ruled by Stefan Dušan (Branko nominally recognized Uroš suzerainty) and Albanian lands ruled by Matarango. He succeeded his father, the deputy of Trebinje and Dračevica Vojvoda Mladen, but was later given the title of sebastokrator by the late Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan and held Ohrid. He acquired further lands into Kosovo including the region of Drenica.[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mladenovi%C4%87The Kastioti family (Skanderbeg's Fathers'-side) had a very close relationship with the Serbian Empire (he married a Serb a few of his kids have Serbian names), Pal Kastioti (Skanderbeg's grand-father) even received his estates in Albania from The Serbian Emperor Dusan as a gift after he captured land.
Stefan Crnojevic married the oldest daughter of the lord of Mat Gjon Kastrioti, Maria Kastrioti, also called Mamica.[8] This family link became really important when in November 1443 Gjon's son and Maria's brother, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg rebelled in Albania against his Ottoman sovereign. According to Vasilije Petrović-Njegoš Stefan sent soldiers under the command of Božidar to help Skanderbeg in his fight against Ottomans, but Lekë Dukagjini and members of Zaharia family ambushed and killed them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_I_Crnojevi%C4%87.... On 25 February 1420 Gjon Kastriot wrote a letter in the Serbian language to merchants from Ragusa (Dubrovnik). Based on the order of the despot of Serbia, when they would travel from Ragusa to Prizren they had to use the route trough Shkodër in Albania Veneta and the Kastriot's land instead of the previous route trough the land under control of the small feudal lords and highland tribes of Montenegro. In 1426 he donated the right to the proceeds from taxes collected from the two villages (Rostuša and Trebište in Macedonia) and from the church of Saint Mary, which was in one of them, to the Serbian Orthodox Monastery of Hilandar in Mount Athos where his son Reposh retired and died in 25 July 1431. Afterwards, in period between 1426 and 1431,[43] Gjon Kastrioti and his sons, with the exception of Stanisha, purchased four adelphates (rights to reside on monastic territory and receive subsidies from monastic resources) to the Saint George tower and to some property within the monastery. According to the archives of the Hilandar monastery on Mount Athos, he took monastic vows there and received the name Joachim, becoming an Orthodox monk, where he died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjon_Kastrioti
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Post by Balkaneros on May 12, 2013 17:55:15 GMT -5
I think you know well that what you're trying to peddle here is complete BS.
You're right, back then... however when the Serbs inhabitated the land "Triballians" was synonymus to "Serbian". Even Albanian scholars have documented this, along with the Byzantines, British, Austrians and Greeks.
I didn't even show you one-Serb source. Look at the links I provided... read my full post - the answers are all there.
Who was Voisava's father? How can you try to argue she was Illyrian... they were extinct long before wtf man....
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Post by Balkaneros on May 12, 2013 15:30:15 GMT -5
However, the term "Triballians" (Triballoi) appears frequently in Byzantine and other European works of the Middle Ages, referring exclusively to Serbs.
Gjon Muzaka, an Albanian nobleman of the Muzaka family, alleged in his Muzaka Chronicle (published in 1510) that the "Marquis of Tripalda" was maternally related to the Muzaka.[7] Furthermore, in another chapter, he assigns the "Triballi" to the Serbs.[8]
books.google.ca/books?id=jFPQAAAAMAAJ&q=triballians&hl=en
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voisava_Tripalda#cite_note-4
Some of these authors clearly explain that "Triballian" is synonym to "Serbian".
For example, Niketas Choniates (or Acominatus, 1155–1215 or-16) in his history about Emperor Ioannes Komnenos: "... Shortly after this, he campaigned against the nation of Triballians (whom someone may call Serbians as well) ..."
In the 15th century, a coat of arms of "Tribalia", depicting a wild boar with an arrow pierced through the head (see Boars in heraldry), appeared in the supposed Coat of Arms of Emperor Stefan Dušan 'the Mighty'
www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/554790?uid=3739448&uid=2&uid=3737720&uid=4&sid=21102206587031
books.google.ca/books?id=VGdoAAAAMAAJ&q=triballians&hl=en
The Triballians are the Serbs"
books.google.ca/books?id=AdbgOudLnj4C&pg=PA48&dq=triballians&hl=en#v=onepage&q=triballians&f=false
books.google.ca/books?id=XnKgAAAAMAAJ&hl=en
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi#Serbia
With the beginning of the First Serbian Uprising, the Parliament adopted the Serbian Coat of Arms in 1805, their official seal depicted the heraldic emblems of Serbia and Tribalia.
Voisava's Father;
Grgur Golubić - Skanderbegs' grand-father
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family. He is mentioned as a caesar in a letter from Pope Innocentius VI to the Emperor dated 1347.[3][4] Grgur is mentioned in charters of Dušan dated 1348-54 for the Sveti arhanđeli monastery in Prizren, which points to that Grgur held a region around Prizren. Grgur and Bishop Grigorije of Devoll founded the Zaum monastery (Church of the Holy Virgin Zaumska, Bogorodica Zahumska) on Lake Ohrid near Zaum, to which he brought the cult of the Virgin of Zahumlje (hence its name). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87You also have names you cannot run away from like; Stanisha Jelena George (name was given on Djurdjevdan) Vlajka Mara If you use common sense then certain things become undeniable.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 12, 2013 13:28:05 GMT -5
the greco serb ? wawawa xaxaxaxaxax hahahahahahahah kakakakakaka ka what perversions ..... Isn't that the info from your original post? What are you trying to deny now, that his mother was Serbian? I am not sure about his father but most likely he was Greek-Byzantine. You act as if we're trying to "steal him" from you, that's ridiculous since he is in fact Albania's hero BUT you cannot just knit pick the little details you like about him while ignoring the rest that doesn't sit too well with you - that's blatant ignorance.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 11, 2013 16:03:29 GMT -5
seems you cant read greek What does it say ?
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Post by Balkaneros on May 11, 2013 11:17:32 GMT -5
Scanderbeg From Ottoman Captive to Albanian Hero Harry Hodgkinson Cooper Introduction by David Abulafia Harry Hodgkinson (1913-1994) was a writer, journalist, naval intelligence officer, Balkan expert and from 1985 Chairman of the Anglo-Albanian Association. This is the first biography of the Albanian national heroScanderbeg (1403-1468) published in England for more than four hundred years. The son of a prince of Albania, he was educated in the Muslim faith as a hostage at the court of Sultan Murad II and given the title bey and an army command. In 1443 Scanderbeg escaped to his homeland, abjured Islam, and formed a league of princes among the Albanian chieftains. He proclaimed himself Prince of Albania. To resist the Ottomans under Sultan Muhammad II , Scanderbeg received aid at various times from Venice, Naples, Hungary, and the pope. Written by the late Harry Hodgkinson, a former naval intelligence officer who served under Ian Fleming, this engrossing and elegantly crafted book is an attempt to bring the reader closer to this famous historical figure and to set him in the dramatic context of Albania and its history. You do realize that none of this proves your position, yes? Nor are you proving what I'm saying wrong. No one is arguing against the fact he's Albania's hero - he is, however for the majority of albanians today he would not consider them his people.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 11, 2013 11:11:02 GMT -5
for grks that can read grk ...... its says .... "The Albanian ruler AND HERO"yep I was right, your comprehension skills are in the shitter.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 11, 2013 11:09:49 GMT -5
The first statue of Skanderbeg was erected in Albania in 1968? .... hmmm... just as I suspected, quite late and right in the middle of communism.
rex you're laughing all over this thread as if you're shaking in your boots.
Albanians didn't document anything of Skanderbeg, besides your Churches and you don't like them so WTF DO YOU KNOW?
If your comprehension skills were on-par you'd realize that I myself respect Skanderbeg which is why I lose it on you fucks when you insult and spit on his legacy.
You're like those teens wearing a CHE shirt while not having a clue as to what he was about.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 10, 2013 22:43:15 GMT -5
hehehe ... nice try
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Post by Balkaneros on May 10, 2013 22:31:25 GMT -5
"Mount Athos" is not in any written serbian history nowhere before 1800's as a matter of fact you have very little history at all pre 1800 .just a few major religious things that does not coinside with your language of today and some of Dusans laws and thats it ......(which actually consists of 3-4 texts for about 900 years) .....98% of any history writing is after 1800's and loaded with propaganda galore or better to say loaded epic poems no secular literature at all in that 900 years until the end of the 1800's so don't go lecturing us Albanian /natives of the Balkans from time immortal about our heroes and histories ...when yours are written /fabled in late 1800's -1950's and still continuing on the internet .....ahahhhahahahah
The f**k you going off on about you don't even know this (very real) sphere of Albanian history you even deny your hero his background/family history. Most albanians today mentality/identity wise especially are reminiscent of the Ottomans. They shaped you forever. When was the first Skanderbeg statue erected in Albania you have any idea, I'm curious to know.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 10, 2013 12:33:06 GMT -5
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Post by Balkaneros on May 9, 2013 11:50:15 GMT -5
Also, keep in mind he is born on May 6th, according to the Serbian calendar that's Djurdjevdan (St. George's Day - My Slava ) and he was named George.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 9, 2013 11:43:29 GMT -5
Enciclopedia genealogica del Mediterraneo
-Branilo (+ assassinato a Jannina nel 1379 circa), di origine serba, Governatore di Jannina nel 1368. Sposa N.N. -Voisava Tripalda, figlia del signore serbo di Pologwww.genmarenostrum.com/pagine-lettere/letterac/CASTRIOTA%20E%20BRANAI.htmSkanderbeg's grand-father; Grgur Golubić (Father of Voisava)
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87Voisava's grand-Father (Skanderbegs' great-grandfather) Branko Mladenović
Branko Mladenović (Serbian: Бранко Младеновић) was a 14th-century Serb feudal lord in the Lake Ohrid border region (Old Serbia) in 1346 between the Serb lands ruled by Stefan Dušan (Branko nominally recognized Uroš suzerainty) and Albanian lands ruled by Matarango. He succeeded his father, the deputy of Trebinje and Dračevica Vojvoda Mladen, but was later given the title of sebastokrator by the late Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan and held Ohrid. He acquired further lands into Kosovo including the region of Drenica.[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mladenovi%C4%87The Kastioti family (Skanderbeg's Fathers'-side) had a very close relationship with the Serbian Empire (he married a Serb a few of his kids have Serbian names), Pal Kastioti (Skanderbeg's grand-father) even received his estates in Albania from The Serbian Emperor Dusan as a gift after he captured land.
Stefan Crnojevic married the oldest daughter of the lord of Mat Gjon Kastrioti, Maria Kastrioti, also called Mamica.[8] This family link became really important when in November 1443 Gjon's son and Maria's brother, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg rebelled in Albania against his Ottoman sovereign. According to Vasilije Petrović-Njegoš Stefan sent soldiers under the command of Božidar to help Skanderbeg in his fight against Ottomans, but Lekë Dukagjini and members of Zaharia family ambushed and killed them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_I_Crnojevi%C4%87.... On 25 February 1420 Gjon Kastriot wrote a letter in the Serbian language to merchants from Ragusa (Dubrovnik). Based on the order of the despot of Serbia, when they would travel from Ragusa to Prizren they had to use the route trough Shkodër in Albania Veneta and the Kastriot's land instead of the previous route trough the land under control of the small feudal lords and highland tribes of Montenegro. In 1426 he donated the right to the proceeds from taxes collected from the two villages (Rostuša and Trebište in Macedonia) and from the church of Saint Mary, which was in one of them, to the Serbian Orthodox Monastery of Hilandar in Mount Athos where his son Reposh retired and died in 25 July 1431. Afterwards, in period between 1426 and 1431,[43] Gjon Kastrioti and his sons, with the exception of Stanisha, purchased four adelphates (rights to reside on monastic territory and receive subsidies from monastic resources) to the Saint George tower and to some property within the monastery. According to the archives of the Hilandar monastery on Mount Athos, he took monastic vows there and received the name Joachim, becoming an Orthodox monk, where he died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjon_Kastrioti serbian at that time = Christian Orthodoxy through Church ....same as being greek bcs of common religion if they were Catholics they would be called Latins/Roman Catholic at that time ....and then later on Muslims were considered Ottoman all them Zeta clans had Albanians influences let alone the Tribaldi and you should know that whatever bs nobility they had back then they always intermarried among the same so for their offspring to be in power and for purposes of power sharing plays just like all the kings,dukes and lords did in all of Europe ..... Wrong again rex chap. Your own monasteries still have these letters among many more written in Serbian by the Kastrioti family. Putting that aside your "excuse" being "church slavonic" would maybe work back then but today it is more than clear. At least now you seemed to have come to terms with his lineage except one thing, it was not only about blood (him being part Serbian) there was mutual cooperation on his fathers side with Serbians for generations, which is probably why Skanderbegs father married a Serb, he liked them. He even gave many of his childrens names Serbian names... also the time he spent living in a Serbian monastery, becoming an orthodox monk and all. ps; 2 things you need to read about on your own before we go further; 1) learn what orthodoxy means, Serbs and Greeks aren't the only Orthodox peoples' around so you just saying our identity is orthodoxy is unbelievable. and 2) you continue to ignore the fact that it was the Christian Albanians who were keeping Skanderbegs memory alive while the Muslims were trying to erase it. The Christian Albanians for the most part were NOT ok with the mass conversions why do you think you guys are all spread out, how do you think Albanians ended up in Italy in the first place?
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Post by Balkaneros on May 8, 2013 16:04:12 GMT -5
Enciclopedia genealogica del Mediterraneo
-Branilo (+ assassinato a Jannina nel 1379 circa), di origine serba, Governatore di Jannina nel 1368. Sposa N.N. -Voisava Tripalda, figlia del signore serbo di Pologwww.genmarenostrum.com/pagine-lettere/letterac/CASTRIOTA%20E%20BRANAI.htmSkanderbeg's grand-father; Grgur Golubić (Father of Voisava)
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87Voisava's grand-Father (Skanderbegs' great-grandfather) Branko Mladenović
Branko Mladenović (Serbian: Бранко Младеновић) was a 14th-century Serb feudal lord in the Lake Ohrid border region (Old Serbia) in 1346 between the Serb lands ruled by Stefan Dušan (Branko nominally recognized Uroš suzerainty) and Albanian lands ruled by Matarango. He succeeded his father, the deputy of Trebinje and Dračevica Vojvoda Mladen, but was later given the title of sebastokrator by the late Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan and held Ohrid. He acquired further lands into Kosovo including the region of Drenica.[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mladenovi%C4%87The Kastioti family (Skanderbeg's Fathers'-side) had a very close relationship with the Serbian Empire (he married a Serb a few of his kids have Serbian names), Pal Kastioti (Skanderbeg's grand-father) even received his estates in Albania from The Serbian Emperor Dusan as a gift after he captured land.
Stefan Crnojevic married the oldest daughter of the lord of Mat Gjon Kastrioti, Maria Kastrioti, also called Mamica.[8] This family link became really important when in November 1443 Gjon's son and Maria's brother, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg rebelled in Albania against his Ottoman sovereign. According to Vasilije Petrović-Njegoš Stefan sent soldiers under the command of Božidar to help Skanderbeg in his fight against Ottomans, but Lekë Dukagjini and members of Zaharia family ambushed and killed them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_I_Crnojevi%C4%87.... On 25 February 1420 Gjon Kastriot wrote a letter in the Serbian language to merchants from Ragusa (Dubrovnik). Based on the order of the despot of Serbia, when they would travel from Ragusa to Prizren they had to use the route trough Shkodër in Albania Veneta and the Kastriot's land instead of the previous route trough the land under control of the small feudal lords and highland tribes of Montenegro. In 1426 he donated the right to the proceeds from taxes collected from the two villages (Rostuša and Trebište in Macedonia) and from the church of Saint Mary, which was in one of them, to the Serbian Orthodox Monastery of Hilandar in Mount Athos where his son Reposh retired and died in 25 July 1431. Afterwards, in period between 1426 and 1431,[43] Gjon Kastrioti and his sons, with the exception of Stanisha, purchased four adelphates (rights to reside on monastic territory and receive subsidies from monastic resources) to the Saint George tower and to some property within the monastery. According to the archives of the Hilandar monastery on Mount Athos, he took monastic vows there and received the name Joachim, becoming an Orthodox monk, where he died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjon_Kastrioti
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Post by Balkaneros on May 8, 2013 15:12:43 GMT -5
Statues have little to do with understanding and respect, you are a new nation you're still learning. I mean look you have statues of him everywhere in albania not understanding him whatsoever because he got re-introduced to you not-too long ago.
albanian nationalism defeats logic whichever way you try to take it, most albanians today represent the fact that he actually lost.
No one carried on his legacy, no further movement or resistance in his name, the albanians at the time brushed him aside like a piece of trash that carried burden (as if liberation wasn't on the agenda) and with record breaking results you all converted and handed your loyalty to the enemy while eliminating any evidence of Skanderbeg to begin with. It was the Albanian Christians who ran away that kept his legacy alive.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 6, 2013 13:45:27 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 6, 2013 13:42:57 GMT -5
hahahah what a joke, you guys keep spinning the same old broken record. Our "friendship" was based on having a common enemy for Centuries - the Turks and albs - todays Turk-albanos. Our church plays little role in this, with religion Serbs are as connected to Lebanese/Syrian Orthodox (antiochion) as we are with the Greeks (the two are closer related than to Serbian orthodoxy), I don't expect you to know this you guys like looking at everything as if it's all black and white. The article was written by a Greek. So what, is that how you judge content? There's even Serbs who say what this guy is saying doesn't mean their right my little follower sheeptard you. The article goes all over the place you need to pick a point and expand if you want a discussion.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 6, 2013 13:39:03 GMT -5
This debate ended long ago rex chap you got toasted. I am sure the asylum somewhere in your town has an open spot for you.
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