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Post by Balkaneros on May 6, 2013 13:35:21 GMT -5
Balkaneros Вaистину воскресе! Αληθώς Ανέστη !
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Post by Balkaneros on May 4, 2013 19:46:25 GMT -5
Hristos Voskrese! to all my Balkan brethren especially the Greeks
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Post by Balkaneros on May 3, 2013 16:31:51 GMT -5
What is the verdict, how come we haven't heard of him ?
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Post by Balkaneros on May 3, 2013 16:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by Balkaneros on May 2, 2013 14:17:52 GMT -5
Why would we? He's not our hero although we do technically honor his family on our most holy grounds. We saw it at '99 how much you honoured those people whose grand fathers fought alongside Skanderbeg. And how do you honour his figure? What have you done to honour his family in your most holy grounds? You want to connect with Skandeerbeg because he fought against Ottomans. On the same time you cannot stand the fact he was Arber, so all you can do is invent stories about his ancestry being Serbian so you can share a piece of his glory. Dig Mr.Tare dig. All you ll find is a dead dog. Have some self respect man, no one is making anything up even other albanians here can't deny his Serbian lineage this is why they ignore and it comes down to me and you. look up his family members it is not hard, his father, mother, uncle, then look who his kids married and what names they were all given. There's barely anything Albanian about Skanderbeg - Fact. It was the Serbs who burried Skanderbeg's father, NOT the Albanians, and for longest time our Hilandar Monastery honored him by naming the Bell Tower, the Albanian Tower only later change it to the St. George Tower after the Ottomans morphed you into barbarians.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 2, 2013 14:13:26 GMT -5
Albanian Nazi volunteers, including young Kosovo Albanian children, and their Nazi allies, the Waffen
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Post by Balkaneros on May 2, 2013 14:05:18 GMT -5
hahahah what a joke, you guys keep spinning the same old broken record. Our "friendship" was based on having a common enemy for Centuries - the Turks and albs - todays Turk-albanos.
Our church plays little role in this, with religion Serbs are as connected to Lebanese/Syrian Orthodox (antiochion) as we are with the Greeks (the two are closer related than to Serbian orthodoxy), I don't expect you to know this you guys like looking at everything as if it's all black and white.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 2, 2013 13:59:12 GMT -5
The first person to be mentioned as a Kastriot in historical documents,[1] was a ruler (kephale or castellan in contemporary sources) of the Kanina in 1368.[2][3][4] which belonged to the Principality of Valona.[5] It is assumed that Pal's father received his estates in Albania from Serbian Emperor Dušan after he captured Berat, Valona and Kanina in 1345.[6][dubious – discuss]. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal_KastriotiAGAIN, for clarification; Voisava; It is also certain the Skanderbeg's father, Ivan Castrioti, married a Serb, Voisava who bored him four sons; (Djordje, Stanisha, Reposh, and Konstandin) and five daughters; (Mara, Jelena, Andjelina, Vlajka and Marica). Skanderbeg's Son; John, Skanderbeg's son, marries Irene Brankovic, daughter of Lazar Brankovic, despot of Serbia. Skanderbeg's Daughter; Voisava, Skanderbeg's daughter, marries Ivan Crnojevic, Lord of Montenegro and Zeta. Burat, Mahmutbegovic; It is also interesting that two great Muslim North Albanian families, the Busats of Skadar and the Mahmutbegovic of Pec, trace their origins to the Crnojevics, the Serb rulers of medeival Montenegro-Zeta. It is matter of record that the Castrioti estates in Albania can be traced to Skanderbeg's grandfather, Pal, who received his estates from Serbian Emperor Dusan in 1345. The brothers along with their father even settled in a Serban monastery where they gave a lot of respect and patronage to the Church. The Grand Father of Albania is burried on Serbia lands and I bet the majority of the alb nationalists out there like yourself and dumass rex have no clue. There's barely anything albanian about Skanderbeg and his family, honestly there isn't much at all. If he turned and stayed Muslim maybe you guys would have a leg to stand on but we all know he hated and kill them. but hey kapedan, how about you explain to me how there's no recorded evidence that Skanderbeg even spoke albanian... Build Skanderbeg a statue in Beograd. Why would we? He's not our hero although we do technically honor his family on our most holy grounds.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 2, 2013 11:45:02 GMT -5
You're the last person to speak to about Skanderbeg you know nothing. He was fighting for Albania's resistance, this is where he was needed however no one denies his Serbian roots only albanians. Did you know his family's property throughout Albania was GIVEN to them by the Serbian Empire? Man... you knuckle heads have no idea how tied you are to the Serbs and Greeks and this is why you hate us. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kastrioti_familyWhere did the Serbian Empire got its property from? The first person to be mentioned as a Kastriot in historical documents,[1] was a ruler (kephale or castellan in contemporary sources) of the Kanina in 1368.[2][3][4] which belonged to the Principality of Valona.[5] It is assumed that Pal's father received his estates in Albania from Serbian Emperor Dušan after he captured Berat, Valona and Kanina in 1345.[6][dubious – discuss]. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal_KastriotiAGAIN, for clarification; Voisava; It is also certain the Skanderbeg's father, Ivan Castrioti, married a Serb, Voisava who bored him four sons; (Djordje, Stanisha, Reposh, and Konstandin) and five daughters; (Mara, Jelena, Andjelina, Vlajka and Marica). Skanderbeg's Son; John, Skanderbeg's son, marries Irene Brankovic, daughter of Lazar Brankovic, despot of Serbia. Skanderbeg's Daughter; Voisava, Skanderbeg's daughter, marries Ivan Crnojevic, Lord of Montenegro and Zeta. Burat, Mahmutbegovic; It is also interesting that two great Muslim North Albanian families, the Busats of Skadar and the Mahmutbegovic of Pec, trace their origins to the Crnojevics, the Serb rulers of medeival Montenegro-Zeta. It is matter of record that the Castrioti estates in Albania can be traced to Skanderbeg's grandfather, Pal, who received his estates from Serbian Emperor Dusan in 1345. The brothers along with their father even settled in a Serban monastery where they gave a lot of respect and patronage to the Church. The Grand Father of Albania is burried on Serbia lands and I bet the majority of the alb nationalists out there like yourself and dumass rex have no clue. There's barely anything albanian about Skanderbeg and his family, honestly there isn't much at all. If he turned and stayed Muslim maybe you guys would have a leg to stand on but we all know he hated and kill them. but hey kapedan, how about you explain to me how there's no recorded evidence that Skanderbeg even spoke albanian...
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 30, 2013 21:21:56 GMT -5
George Kastriotis was half Greek half Serbian; he had nothing to do with Albanians.. What a joke.. Albanians are historical thieves. oh is that why is statues stand high in Athen and Belgrade .....? You're the last person to speak to about Skanderbeg you know nothing. He was fighting for Albania's resistance, this is where he was needed however no one denies his Serbian roots only albanians. Did you know his family's property throughout Albania was GIVEN to them by the Serbian Empire? Man... you knuckle heads have no idea how tied you are to the Serbs and Greeks and this is why you hate us.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 29, 2013 20:11:59 GMT -5
This is partially wrong. He did fight for the Albanians, just not today-albanians - today he would consider them enemies. If he were alive today he would puke walking down any common street in albania and probably kill himself if he saw what the albs did in Kosovo, one of the Christian heartlands of the Ottoman resistance. anyway it's always funny when we see muslim albs waving Kastiotis emblem - the symbol of their slaughter lmao actually he would puke and crap on your serbian flag for all the damage slavs have done to his people
He would undoubtedly understand why.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 29, 2013 20:06:22 GMT -5
shipac... don't allow your inferiority complex get the better of you... you know what I'm talking about;
you forge, you pose and you plagiarize and still manage to fail, fail and fail again...
and the cream on the cake is you don't understand half this s**t you forge and plagiarize because you're a f'kin idiot lol and fail X2... drop the syringe man, I know how the "made in Albania" slogan must get you excited but heroin obviously aint good for you.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 29, 2013 17:18:05 GMT -5
Have you any ounce of dignity left or is dignity and honor completely foreign to shiptars.
Stop posing as me and get a real life off-the net you miserable old man.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 29, 2013 12:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 28, 2013 15:14:21 GMT -5
George Kastriotis was half Greek half Serbian; he had nothing to do with Albanians.. What a joke.. Albanians are historical thieves. This is partially wrong. He did fight for the Albanians, just not today-albanians - today he would consider them enemies. If he were alive today he would puke walking down any common street in albania and probably kill himself if he saw what the albs did in Kosovo, one of the Christian heartlands of the Ottoman resistance. anyway it's always funny when we see muslim albs waving Kastiotis emblem - the symbol of their slaughter lmao
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 28, 2013 15:04:37 GMT -5
rex that was an absolute fail - you constantly contradict your own claims right up to the line of retardation.
You're like a boy who refuses to be a man because the real world is not as happy go luck as you were brough to think. Face the truth it'll help you in the long run this kicking and screamin you pull on this site is devastating.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 28, 2013 13:33:03 GMT -5
Now time for the albanians to apologize for all their war crimes under the ottomans! They'll never be true reconciliation, this apology is a mockery just last 2 weeks he said the opposite and check the timing, exactly around the agreement was agreed upon and during these "mediations" it's like Nikolic has got a gun to his head everybody knows he thinks differently and doesn't mean it. Serbia is being attacked on all sides and the last thing Serbs want is some "apology" from the others', seriously none could care less while albs, cros and bosniaks cry for it as if it'll make any difference, only lighten up their conscious.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 22, 2013 16:26:54 GMT -5
Good pic with Ashton and the penis head. It just shows what Dacic was really up against.
I mean let's face it, Ashton and Reeker were working with Thaci they're not "mediators" lmao, while Dacic was on his own against the three and still stood his ground while probably getting grilled from all direction in which he obviously fired back. - he refused that first agreement.
---- and shit got real hot, so Serbia's best man Aleksandar Vucic willingly goes to Brussles to settle this crap once and for all, and he did even though he wanted nothing to do with Thaci and Ashton because he's a real statesman.
Serbs everywhere need to take it easy, they're quick to shoot at Dacic but they're not aknowledging the circumstance he was in, plus the media will always have a target on his head. On top of everything this agreement works in our favor - while placing "independant" Kosovo a few steps backwards. The reason most Serbs are pissed at Dacic is because "peace" is not really an option here, the majority of Serbs out there whether they admit it or not just want to march into Pristina and get it over with already.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 21, 2013 13:45:27 GMT -5
Church art theft impoverishing Albanian cultureSince the end of communism in Albania, an increasing number of priceless works of art have been stolen from Orthodox churches. Now, a theft that left historic frescoes destroyed has finally caused an uproar. [b ]With knives and axes, art thieves destroyed historic frescoes in a small church in Elbasan in central Albania in January[/b]. In trying to remove the wall painting, they ended up shredding it. In February, robbers similarly descended on a church in southern Himara. The churches in both cases were Orthodox, the richly decorated interiors of which are particularly attractive to art thieves. Many of the destroyed works were by Onufri, a famous icon painter of the 16th century anhd the best-known medieval artist in Albania. The thefts sparked broad outrage in the media, especially among archaeologists. But the problem is not new: " For 20 years, icons and other items of historical value have continuously been stolen from Orthodox church interiors in southern Albania. In 1990 there were over 12,000 inventoried icons in the country. Today no one knows how many are left," lamented Albanian archeology professor and restorer Gjergj Frasheri. In his opinion, the state does too little for the protection of cultural heritage - not one of the art thieves has been caught and brought to justice. Gentian Stratoberdha, architect and director of the cultural heritage department of the Orthodox Church of Albania, said that in recent years, even prominent private collectors have organized exhibitions in Albania in which cultural goods from churches were displayed. However, the origin of these works remains mostly unclear. "Even if we want to deny its existence, there's a secret black market - dealers and customers who are looking for such things." Against cultural vandalismMany of the icons sold are brought from the low-elevation Myzeqe plains of central Albania, where Orthodox churches were once especially richly decorated with medieval frescoes. "There, at least 13 churches have been burglarized. There are longer have any real church facilities," Stratoberdha said. Even the iconostasis - a three-door icon wall between church and chancel - has been stolen from these Orthodox churches. Until now, there has hardly been a public reaction to such news. But that changed after the damage to the Onufri frescoes. In several protests, the "Forum for the Protection of Cultural Heritage" denounced the indifference of the state, and even called for the resignation of the culture minister. The protests pushed the Ministry of Culture into action, and it will now monitor 51 selected churches with cameras. They should be installed by the end of April. But Stratoberdha said that these, too, could be damaged or stolen - and that power cuts must be taken into account. In addition, a camera system would not work "in churches that are located in remote areas that can be reached by the police only after two hours," he said. "The Albanian government should protect these cultural monuments with armed security forces." 'Losing our identity'Paradoxically, works of religious art were safer during the communist dictatorship in Albania than today - even though the exercise of religion was forbidden in the world's first atheist state, and churches were even destroyed. The state considered works of art as national treasures to be protected. Today, hardly anyone cares about cultural values and art, painter and restorer Hasan Nallbani said: "When I was still teaching at the university, visits to these churches with the students were part of the curriculum. But today, many Albanian students have only heard of the painter Onufri for the first time through this robbery." Stratoberdha criticized the indifference of large parts of society toward art, and the many cases of art theft. The destruction of Orthodox Christian cultural heritage is a big loss not only for members of this religion - but for all citizens in multi-confessional Albania, Stratoberdha asserted. " We are losing our identity. Maybe some citizens are indifferent because they feel very far from the Orthodox cultural heritage because of their own denomination or religion," he said. But people shouldn't just see something from the perspective of their own religion, he said, rather "as a national cultural heritage of the Albanian people." If this were to cease to exist, the testament to a 1,500-year history would disappear along with it. www.dw.de/church-art-theft-impoverishing-albanian-culture/a-16760083Orthodox Autocephalous Church of AlbaniaThe Autocephalous Orthodox Church of Albania (Albanian: Kisha Ortodokse Autoqefale e Shqipërisë) is one of the newest autocephalous Eastern Orthodox churches. It declared its autocephaly in 1922, and gained recognition from the Patriarch of Constantinople in 1937. Christianity first arrived in Albania with Saint Paul during the 1st century. Saint Paul wrote that he preached in the Roman province of Illyricum, and legend holds that he visited Durrës. However it was with Constantine the Great, who issued the Edict of Milan and legalized Christianity, that the Christian religion became official in the lands of modern Albania. When Albania came under Ottoman influence in 15th century the Orthodox people of Albania were members of the Archbishopric of Ohrid which was officially recognized by the Ottoman Empire.[ Following the Ottoman conquest in the 15th century, a slow conversion of Albanians to Islam started. By mid-19th century because of the Tanzimat reforms that had started in 1839 the majority of Albanians had become Muslim. The Tanzimat reform that mostly decreased the number of Christians in Albania was the obligatory draft for non-Muslim soldiers. Under Ottoman rule, the remaining Eastern Orthodox population of Albania south of the Drin river was integrated into the Patriarchate of Constantinople, and all local Eastern Orthodox religious services, instruction and cultural activities were conducted in Greek. The territory north of the Drin was a part of the Serbian Church and had had Slavic liturgy.The church greatly suffered during the dictatorship of Enver Hoxha as all churches were placed under government control, and land originally held by religious institutions were taken by the state. Religion in schools was banned. In 1952 Archbishop Kristofor was discovered dead; most believed he had been killed. In 1967 Hoxha closed down all churches and mosques in the country, and declared Albania the world's first atheist country. All expression of religion, public or private, was outlawed. Hundreds of priests and imams were killed or imprisoned.As you can see, the Albanians didn't choose atheism is their national identity this was being propogated by Hoxha.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Autocephalous_Church_of_AlbaniaThe Tanzimât (Ottoman Turkish: تنظيمات), meaning reorganization of the Ottoman Empire, was a period of reformation that began in 1839 and ended with the First Constitutional Era in 1876. The Tanzimât reform era was characterized by various attempts to modernize the Ottoman Empire, to secure its territorial integrity against nationalist movements and aggressive powers. The reforms encouraged Ottomanism among the diverse ethnic groups of the Empire, attempting to stem the tide of nationalist movements within the Ottoman Empire. The reforms attempted to integrate non-Muslims and non-Turks more thoroughly into Ottoman society by enhancing their civil liberties and granting them equality throughout the Empire. GoalsThe ambitious project was launched to combat the slow decline of the empire that had seen its borders shrink, and was growing weaker in comparison to the European powers. By getting rid of the millet system, the Ottoman Empire hoped to be able to control all of its citizens. They thought that the Great Powers would accept this as long as reforms were ongoing, leaving them to act as enforcers of these goals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TanzimatThe Albanians during the Ottoman times weren't a nationlist society (Skanderbeg wasn't recognized yet) compared to their neighbours, they accepted the reforms being pushed on them by the Ottomans - their identity being Ottomanism. The Ottomans were promoting "internationlism", trying to crush anything that depicts national-identity and the Albanians by a vast majority went with it.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 21, 2013 13:16:21 GMT -5
Agreed but from the EU point of view statistics speak volumes, Romania is already in the EU they're just using Romania as a scapegoat for the exact reason as you say. instead of criticizing non-Europeans for crimes it's most "polite" to attack Europeans. Everyone knows if Kosovo gets in the EU they'll be a wave of albs leaving into Western Europe, especially because the situation in Kosovo wouldn't even get better anyway and really who would blame them there's a lot more opportunity outside. For the EU to function properly, they have to take in countries that are already standing on their two feet alone functioning. This philosophy to just grow grow grow is not going solve anything, the foundation is completely rotting out yet we're still building. Yes, candidate countries need to have a working economy before joining the EU. Both Ro and Bu have working economies, but many still claim we joined too early. The issue about Kosovo joining the EU requires they have a working economy, among other things, so they wouldn't be able to join for quite a long time. The EU has as its longterm strategy to take in all Balkan countries, that objective could take decades to reach. That statement made by the British politician is quite stupid, but such statements are very popular among the people due to the economical crisis we're in. I sort of agree that the EU is not built on solid ground. The statement made by the politicians is stupid however there is grounds for what he is saying he's just pointing the finger the wrong direction. By "blaming" Romanians for crime he is not helping the societal situation in Britiain, as you say many people look for blame and if the path for blame leads towards Romanians then that's where its' going to go. I personally think bigger problems are the middle-easterns and Africans who don't really comprehend Europeanism, or the idea of a NATION or STATE, afterall it just comes down to being "polite" and blaming fellow Europeans. If Europeans took care of Europeans first then the EU wouldn't be in the crisis they are in. The foundation of this wonderful idea is deteriorating under the guise of freedom, liberlism and democracy - when in reality the people don't like it this way, or just unhappy with what is happening. Let's look at Germany for a moment; Stay at home mothers' now get grants from the government for being at home with the kids = the more kids they have to take care of the more money they get from the Government. Now think about this for a moment, sure it sounds nice at first but remember European women in specific have become independant in their own Right, the majority of Germany's Native women WORK- because of the promotion of feminism throughout the years. And the ones who do have kids only have about 1 to 3. The ones ranking in on this deal are clearely the immigrants who come from nations in which oppress women (no-work-no-freedom), they come to Germany with their 8 children sign up for citizenship (and because of Law, they'll get priority over say someone from Serbia) then sign up for these benefits. Now about working mothers? Do they get grants for sending their kids to daycare or having a nanny? NO !And where's the money coming from to grant these stay-at-home mothers with money? GERMAN tax payers. What do you think of all this? I can give you some ressources if you want to read more about this.
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