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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 9, 2009 19:42:00 GMT -5
"I am flattered that you assume I own Macedonia and also have ownership of its language. But that is not the case. Sorry to burst your bubble, but please use "THE" instead of "YOUR". I claim no personal ownership to the country Macedonia and its language. I am only a PROUD MACEDONIAN." l'm confused because now your calling yourself a Hellene?. What are you a slav or Hellene? "Love you, man." ??
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 9, 2009 19:56:53 GMT -5
Ioan my friend, l pride myself on honesty, l don't speak if l haven't seen the information for myself and l don't fabricate information. I know the history of Vardar and kosovo better than the rest of Ex-Yu. "Please read smth so that u dont embarass yourself Novi." Ioan the wikipedia link at the end has indirectly mentioned the period of the excharos. Now l want you to read below from a bulgarian propaganda site: The Bulgarian Exarchate (1870 - 1912)was established on February 28, 1870 in Constantinople, Turkey and ended on 1912, when Greece, Serbia and Romania expanded territories of neighbors cost. This map represents the boundaries of the Bulgarian Exarchate. The quarrel about the establishment of the Bulgarian National-Church lasted 40 years; it began 1830 and found an end on the 28th of February 1870 (ancient style) by a Turkish Ferman Sultan’s Ferman for the establishment of the Bulgarian Exarchate. which establish the Bulgarian Exarchate at Constantinople. - At first the Bulgarian people demanded the right of electing themselves their own bishops, who should have to belong to the Bulgarian nationality too. The first towns to declare such desire were Uscub (Skopje) and Samokov (in the year 1833). But the Greek Patriarchate was decidedly opposed to it and the controversy took two new forms: the demand of the Bulgarian Bishops was increased with the desire for religious service of their own and schools of their own, the Greek Bishops in the Bulgarian Eparchies were openly and violently persecuted. This happened in many towns of Bulgaria, Thracia and Macedonia. The Ferman of the Sultan relating to the establishment of the Bulgarian Exarchate, expressly denominated in the first paragraph of the 10-th article as Bulgarian the following Eparchies: Rustschuk, Silistra, Varna, Schumen, Tirnovo, Lovetsch, Vratza, Vidin, Sofia, Kiustendil, Samokov, Nisch, Pirot and Veless; the second paragraph of the same article decides that other Eparchies too should be allowed to acknowledge the Exarchie if at least 2/3 of their Christian inhabitants should demand this. According to this second paragraph of the Ferman a "people's-vote" was made by the Turkish authorities under control of the Greek Patriarchate. This „people's-vote" proved that the largest part of Macedonia wanted to acknowledge the Bulgarian Exarchate, whereupon bishops were appointed for Uscub, Ochrida and Monastir; (for Veless, expressly named in the Ferman, such appointment had already taken place). But soon after this occurred the Bulgarian insurrections of 1875-76, which were followed by the Russo-Turkish war, which events exposed the Bulgarians in the eyes of the Turks. Unfortunately the „people's-vote" could not be completed in the southern part of Macedonia and, where it was completed, Bulgarian Bishops were not appointed in all of these Eparchies; and where such had tried to go, they were thence driven away by the authorities. The attempts made 1884/1885 to send Bulgarian Bishops in Macedonia failed on account of the protest of the Greek Patriarchate, of Serbia and of Greece. Soon after came the union of the two Bulgarias which newly compromised the Bulgarians in the eyes of the Turks. Only in the year 1890, new Bulgarian Bishops were appointed at Uscub and at Ochrida; in the year 1894 bishops came to Veless and Nevrokop, and 1897 to Monastir, Debar and Strumitza. The other Eparchies never had any Bulgarian Bishops. The Turkish Government only allowed the Bulgarian clergy of these Eparchies to represent the Bulgarians before the local authorities and to manage their own school-matters. The white-hatched places on the map denote those Eparchies that did not get Bulgarian Bishops. www.macedoniainfo.com/dg2_TheBulgarianExarchate.htm
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 9, 2009 20:00:12 GMT -5
He " macmako" is a sell out, he has adopted Tito’s lies and ideology = a Tito zombie. He is shaming the true Macedonian Hellenic legacy, too much for him to understand the shame he's doing.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 9, 2009 20:07:43 GMT -5
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Post by macmako on Jan 11, 2009 1:50:19 GMT -5
He " macmako" is a sell out, he has adopted Tito’s lies and ideology = a Tito zombie. He is shaming the true Macedonian Hellenic legacy, too much for him to understand the shame he's doing. Wow, I am so happy that you care. But please, you guys are getting a bit too deep. I'm going to have to put on my galoshes. How can I be a sell out and shaming Hellenic history and legacy when many of you never acknowledged my Greek half? Kind of difficult to do, don't you think? First I wasn't Greek, now I am!!!! You guys must be smoking candy blunts!!! Anyway, that is water under the bridge so let's move on to bigger and better things, shall we? Hope you had a great weekend.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 11, 2009 20:10:00 GMT -5
^ There is no half here, what are you, a Greek or a Vardarian?
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Post by macmako on Jan 11, 2009 22:51:41 GMT -5
^ There is no half here, what are you, a Greek or a Vardarian? Sure there is. I am Greek and I am Macedonian. (Vardarian: What the fvck is that?) Are there some difficulties on your part in comprehending this?
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Post by ioan on Jan 12, 2009 5:03:12 GMT -5
so I understand u are half Greek, half Bulgarian. How nice.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 12, 2009 7:29:09 GMT -5
No macmako, you can be only one, is your surname Greek or is it from vardarska banovina?
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Post by macmako on Jan 12, 2009 10:06:21 GMT -5
No macmako, you can be only one, is your surname Greek or is it from vardarska banovina? You've been watching Bablyon 5 reruns for too long. Vardarska Banovina is in the Alpha Centauri star system, close to Proxima.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 12, 2009 17:58:20 GMT -5
^ what is the Axios river called in slavic.
Now answer me this, is your surname hellenic or slavic?
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Post by macmako on Jan 12, 2009 23:31:42 GMT -5
What reason do you want to know my surname? So you may tell me who I am and/or who I am not, depending on the answer I give you??? Ha!
Move on, Novi. You have better things to do.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 13, 2009 0:35:58 GMT -5
^ no l can only move on when you give me the answer i'm looking for.....are you worried?
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Post by macmako on Jan 13, 2009 1:06:07 GMT -5
I do not worry about much. Therefore, I will move on.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 13, 2009 18:20:30 GMT -5
^ why is it so difficult for you to answer my question?
Again is your surname Greek or vardarian?
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Post by Kassandros on Jan 16, 2009 8:45:20 GMT -5
MacMako "Sure there is. I am Greek and I am Macedonian" ------------------------------------------------ lovely! That makes you 100% Greek. Like me, ... we're brothers! Its like a Goth says.. "I half German and half Bavarian"! means... a 100% German tribe! Good for you dude..
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Post by macmako on Jan 16, 2009 9:31:14 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 17, 2009 20:54:29 GMT -5
^ Your surname is Greek ;D so your not vardarian.....excellent ;D
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Post by ioan on Jan 20, 2009 2:07:17 GMT -5
MacMako is our brother and also a Greek. Nice. Greece and Bulgaria have become friends and MacMako is the proove that we are connected
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Post by ceferistulfericit on Jan 20, 2009 16:31:31 GMT -5
Just out of interest: Why are you lot being bad people to the Macedonians rather than just let them be? What's all this grotesque bullying?
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