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Post by Kastorianos on May 30, 2009 3:26:41 GMT -5
Lathos kai auto alla efoson den mporeis, sewasou tin toulachiston. Giati oute auto kaneis. Kai i aitia einai i mania sou me tous palioslawous, tin cheiroteri paliofara pou iparchei. Anti na les gia autous les gia tous Arvanites...trela pragmata, re mipos se ewale i pethera na fas manogalo gia na se kanei marionetta tous? Auto isos na einai. ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on May 30, 2009 3:50:55 GMT -5
Serwiki pethera, esi eisai?
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Post by Kastorianos on May 30, 2009 3:56:46 GMT -5
Kai pou ksero ego giati ta les auta...den einai diki mou douleia na to anakalipso...auto thelei psychologo, pou ego den eimai. Alla gia ena pragma eimai sigouros...oti den echeis dikio. Kai oute tha neuriaso, giati den echei noima, esi eisai fanatikos kai poromenos stis idees sou.... pou na se giatrepso ego meso internet.... adinato.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 30, 2009 4:06:29 GMT -5
Kai pou ksero ego giati ta les auta...den einai diki mou douleia na to anakalipso...auto thelei psychologo, pou ego den eimai. Alla gia ena pragma eimai sigouros...oti den echeis dikio. Kai oute tha neuriaso, giati den echei noima, esi eisai fanatikos kai poromenos stis idees sou, pou na se giatrepso ego meso internet, adinato. Koita, den exeis dedomena, exeis tis apopseis sou zwntas sthn kateksoxhn xwra-lao pou afanise ton arxaio ellhniko kosmo (bl epidromes tou Alarhou-(Ulrich) sthn Ellada ton 4o mh aiona), o opoios laos, ksypnaei kai koimatai me to pws tha afanisei tous kakous slavous, kai erxesai esy na peis se emena, na mishsw tous laous pou diathrhsan zwntanh thn byzantini paradosh, kai pou eksakolouthoun na milane me yperhfania gia to Byzantio, thn Orthodoksia, na kanoun giortes me mesaiwnikous Ippotes, laous pou pragmatika agapane thn Ellada, kai den tis dinoun aplws psixoula meta to sklhro gamhsi (Germanoi/Venecianoi(400AD,1204AD---->Eyropaiki enwsh - shmera) To gegonos oti fereis thn epikratousa apopsi, den shmainei oti exeis kai dikio. Me bebaiothta sou lew oti exeis entelws adiko, kai h istoria fysika milaei dynata kai FWNAZEI apo moni ths... Oso gia ta peri psyhologou, kai efoson ksereis oti eipes mia malakia gia na skefygeis, sou lew oti efoson me amfisbhteis, ofeileis kai na apanthseis sta erwthmata mou. Syggnomi an me anagkases na xrhsimopoihsw alvanikous tropous epikoinwnias (vrisies, ktll) 1000 signomi.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 30, 2009 4:11:45 GMT -5
kai kati akomi, ta serbocroatika indoeuropaiki glossa gar, moiazoun KATA POLY PERISSOTERO me ta NEA kai ARXAIA ellhnika, apo oti ta arvanitika/alvanika/chechenika, ktll....
Mono i aritmish apo to 1 ews to 10 mporei na se peisei... alla fysika kai plhthora allwn leksewn koines sta arxaia slavika kai arxaia ellhnika.
OPOTE KAI FYLETIKA NA TO DEIS EIMASTE KONTYTERA SE AUTOUS PARA STOUS ALBIES.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 30, 2009 4:19:20 GMT -5
Ekanes click sto RWSIKO documenter pou postara? Sigoura oxi, h toulaxiston den to eides mexri telous.... Exeis akousei apo dytiko tetoies ANATRIHIASTIKES kai EKSONYXISTIKES leptomereies gia thn zwh TWN ELLHNWN, apo to 400->1453? Sigoura oxi, ta biblia istorias pou eftiaksan oi aggloi gia emas einai:
Na mathainoume kathe xrono tou pelloponisiakou polemou, analytika proistoria->146 PX meta rwmaikiki autokratoria kati psila meta byzantio genika kai aorista kai meta oi kakoi tourkoi...... kai meta to 1821...
Sou fainetai logikh h ptknothta plhroforias ana xroniki periodo?
Kastor paidi mou, diabasma kai endiaferon thelei, kai taksidia, kai agapi gia thn alithia. Akolouthise ta kai isws ftaseis sthn allhtheia (sou) kapote.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 30, 2009 4:20:20 GMT -5
Ase mas re Pyrro auta esi pou les kai ipostirizeis pano stin istoria einai mpourdes gia mena...kanenas istorikos, oute Ellinas oute otidipote allo den echei tetoia apopsi. Einai arloumpologies, tora nomizeis tha katso na sizito epi ores me sena...afou prin akoma mou apantiseis ksero ti tha mou grapseis. Ase pou wrizeis kiolas otan se prokalesei kapoios...Ipirotis diladi 100%... Alla eimai sigouros pos eisai kalo anthropaki apla pano stin istoria...eisai ligaki....paraksenos. Den pirazei omos, den se pareksigo giati pano sta neura o anthropos leei polla, to na eisai neurikos einai to pio eukolo omos, etsi, ekei diladi theleis ligaki ekpaideusi akoma... gia na po ego tin pethera, na to frontisei. ;D Kai se parakalo..mi mou archizeis pali me tous Germanous...kai tis pliseis egkefalou pou mou echoun kanei demek...to ksero to tropario. Oi Germanoi omos sou wewaiono oti den echoun na kanoun me tis apopseis mou giati oi Nazoi den kiriarchoun stin Germania edo kai 63 chronia tora pleon. Kai i simerini Germania den milaei pote aschima gia tous Slawous. Den tolma na to kanei, zo edo kai ksero.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 30, 2009 7:58:38 GMT -5
Mi tsantizesai to "anthropaki" den to enoousa ipotimitika...oute ironika.
Oso gia tin kouwenta mazi sou..ontos koutamara einai alla ego auto to leo edo kai ores. Echeis tis apopseis sou, ego tis dikies mou, den epeite oti chalaei o kosmos logo autou. Den einai kako alla apla anthropino. Tora esi an theleis na pisteueis oti eisai anoteros kai den se "piano" se auta pou mou les...dikaioma sou, ego to theoro kouti alazoneia. Par'ola auta euchomai na min wgoume malomenoi apo autin tin sizitisi.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 31, 2009 6:40:36 GMT -5
Now guys, with your permission, i am going to clean a little bit this thread, erasing my own posts as well.
UPDATE: i erased some of my own posts only. The other speakers are of course encouraged to keep the level at an adequate height by editing their posts as well.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 9:51:32 GMT -5
A forum is no dictatorship. There are no topics that wont become off topic at least to some extent. Its ok as it is, thats a natural course. Except of course someone is going intentionally off topic in order to instigate, but thats not the case here.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 31, 2009 10:32:48 GMT -5
collectively calling slavs as you did, is an insult to half of our planet, an insult to our true brothers and friends, by attitude, by nature, by language by religion... If calling slavs "the worse race on earth" is not instigation, then i rest my case.
Anyway i prettified (hellenized) the thread from my part.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 12:40:05 GMT -5
Pyrro please....thats a forum....what does you "hellenized" your posts mean...are you dreaming? You are supposed to be a mature person and father at that.
Secondly I didnt say they are the worst race on earth....but "fara"...which means clan....it can be translated here as bunch...and "palio-" doesnt mean they are evil...but just crooked. And it was written in a historical context when you compared their role with that of the Arvanites during our revolution. So first of all translate it correctly... And yes the Slavs are a paliofara in comparison to the arvanites for us in this context...I dont think anyone of them cared for our people. No one! In contrast they harmed us...they harmed us in Byzantine times....they harmed us during the fight of freedom...they are harming us today with the Macedonian issue. So I dont take anything back. In comparison to you I mean what I say. Every word, every comma. And I dont care if you or anyone else likes it, because Im of the opinion that Im right with it.
Now you pulled this sentence out of the context in order to make use of it for your purposes..here and in the Greek forum...I ask you to stop it. Thats no Greek (which means sth like dignified to you) behaviour.
These forums are working this way for more than 6 years now and I dont see the reason to change any of the customs being moderated.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 31, 2009 13:11:41 GMT -5
your delusions are not of my interest. and you know pretty well how i care about hellenism and how about anything is examined under this consideration.
So, dont bother trying to throw sand on me. Just because i dont give a damn about a remote race from chechenia, does not connect with my fight for hellenism in any way.
In short, Ksekola file, allo prama h arvanotovlahia, allo o ellhnismos. einai AMOIBAIWS APOKLEIOMENA.. Mathe to auto, prwta kai meta pame parakatw.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 13:15:50 GMT -5
lol all right...Im the delusional...what shall I say...ante geia.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 31, 2009 13:18:34 GMT -5
lol all right...Im the delusional...what shall I say...ante geia. your attempts to portray me as dellusional were an epic fail... your above essay on idiocy and naiveness was hilarious... Harmed us?? Did they harm us in Byzantine times? Whould you prefer Germans or Japanese? I REPEAT THE QUESTION kastor. Did they harm us during revolution? Ever heard of Rigas Feraios, and the other names i gave you? Why do you always talk BS, AND NEVER ONE DAMN SINGLE CLUE? WHY? Did they harm us on WWI? We hadnt decided till 1917, which side will he fight for, and in 1918 we got Thrace, nicely wrapped in a packet. in WWII? remember who the bad bad slavs fought against? yeahhhhh exactly, the enemy that we fought against as well. (except maybe bulgarians, which BTW you seem to like most LMAO ;D ;D ;D) read a little bit and stop being ridiculous.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 31, 2009 13:19:35 GMT -5
You dont get along with the fact that your wife is not Greek. Thus, if she isnt directly Greek...we turn all of her people "Hellenic minded"...and lill Pyrros can rest easy now....but Im the delusional...ok. I say it again. GEIA!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 31, 2009 13:23:57 GMT -5
You dont get along with the fact that your wife is not Greek. Thus, if she isnt directly Greek...we turn all of her people "Hellenic minded"...and lill Pyrros can rest easy now....but Im the delusional...ok. I say it again. GEIA! my wife is not interested in politics, neither reads these forums, neither has played any part on my beliefs. You should replace this little part in your above delusion with some new delusion maybe.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 31, 2009 13:33:53 GMT -5
as a side note, i have talked with Bosnian serbs, who told me about ancient greek towns in bosnia, and of course had no clue about Suvoseli, Kapesovo, Grbovo, etc.. I have talked with Serbs who go to "Sybota" every summer, and never told me anything about this toponym!
Have you ever seen a greek denouncing or not knowing the history of Alexandria in Egypt? Or "Petra" in palestine? Or Kalabria in Italy? Or Apoulia in Italy? HUH?
I personally, am gonna go to Apoulia for Ancient Greeks, and Kalabria for Byzantine greeks...
Ever heard of any Serb going to Greece, e.g. in Arahova to find his roots?
Think about it, next time your next albanian brother talks about Kameria...
And learn at last, to tell a friend from an enemy, you are above 20 right?
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jun 1, 2009 1:32:48 GMT -5
Correction, he is not talking about Albanians, he is talking about Hellenotrash Arvanites. Please learn to distinguish between us and them.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 1:40:22 GMT -5
Correction, he is not talking about Albanians, he is talking about Hellenotrash Arvanites. Please learn to distinguish between us and them. Many arvanites are in deep love with their homeland Greece, and gave substantial help to their motherland Greece many times. I just dont think we should deduce them to Divine creatures, and worship them as such. Of course there is a distinction. PS It was you who insisted that there were arbos in Ioannina, implying that Souli and Ioannina are overlapping areas.. Get some facts str8 in your head, and then we go on.. Maybe this misunderstanding from your part brought up the unjustified reaction from Kastor, who thought i was attacking arvanites directly. I just dont think they have offered culturally/spiritually 1/10000000000000000000000000000000 of what Crete offered (for instance) Thats all.
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