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Post by highduke on Dec 14, 2008 21:20:04 GMT -5
THE TURKO-ISLAMIC WORLD WOULD NEVER BETRAY THE ALBANIAN PEOPLE LIKE THE EU IS DOING BECAUSE AL QAIDA DOESNT DEPEND ON RUSSIAN ENERGY TO SURVIVE.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 14, 2008 21:22:16 GMT -5
You live in Canada... Im talking about those in Albania/Greece, you know damn well what the trend is... dont try and twist facts. I have family in Athens who see themselves very very much as Albs, even though they could logically apply for northern epirot card and they have told me of plenty of nice run ins with "proud" orthodox Albs... You fukin idiot kaur... you opened the topic stating logical allies, and I pointed out that Romania supported Serbia on the Kosova issue. Even leaving public opinion side (which, btw, sides with Serbia as the media in their country shows a pro-Serbian spin on the issue which the govt supports). leaving that aside, how is our "logical" ally one which opposes our interests? A logical ally in the balkans is one who shares our interests and does not contrast our own. In such a case. Thereby Turkey makes perfect sense. A "natural ally" is an ally where no interests could collide. Albanians are on the whole (including macedonia, Kosova, southern motenegro) Muslims by as much as maybe 85%, so are Turks by 95%. We do not border each other... they have supported all of our interests... Now tell me, where does this not say "natural"... whereas you are proposing an "ally" who opposes our interests, on the whole is not particularly pro-Alb in its history and we have had no significant ties with them (there has never been any strong relations between the two outside of Hoxha's praises of Caucescu). And as for internet... look at you, how many Albanians really know anything about this "Illyrian-Dacian" bullchit these youtubers are spouting off? How many actually care. And no, Turks are not disliked in the south. Maybe in the fshats of Vlacho-Korca. But Korca is half-dead and doesnt really matter; neither does southern Albania really. And btw, in Vlora there is a Turkish naval base at pasha limane. Guess how the Turks are treated? lets just say local restaurants host them gratis at times. What really matters is Tirana, because that is Albania. Not just Tirana, but then there is Durres, then there is Elbasan.
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Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 21:27:39 GMT -5
Really? Because every observer of both Albanians and Montenegrins would say thats quite a stretch, a stretch almost as long as your path from God only knows how east of the Volga.
Highduke, can we please, pretty please include the Bosnian muslims in the Chechen group since they are muslim too?
If I switched the Albanian skull cap, the Montenegrin cap, and the Bosnian fez around on their respective wearers you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, just like serbs thought three Albanians guys were yugoslav when asked to pick in your forum.
We seriously need to make a deal with the bulgars to take you all back into their fold, I mean you keep calling yourself Siberians even though the only known group to come in mass from there to the balkans are the bulgars. Serbs in balkans=unwanted guests
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Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 21:35:37 GMT -5
Yes highduke, your right about islam not abandoning us too, thats why all the muslim countries recognized Kosova immeadiately once it declared independence, except for Turkey. They didn't recognize us yet as they don't want to be seen as playing a major role in the balkans as they once did, that would be contrary to their charachter.
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Post by highduke on Dec 14, 2008 21:38:03 GMT -5
I'm with Gay Ol' s Mellty on this one: Turkey all the way, no pork! lol those Turks gave you the 'greatest' gift of all - PEDERASTY en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_pederasty judging by the Turkish terms used to denote the 'mentor' & 'protege' lol That could be one reason why Gay Ol' Melty aka Rinia, an Orthodox Tosk atheist, likes Turks as well as why he resurected a user name that could be modified to imply gayness
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Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 21:41:14 GMT -5
You are the only real peder here and you know it, thats why you always bring it up and see it everywhere.
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Post by highduke on Dec 14, 2008 21:43:54 GMT -5
Pilsbardhi, im sorry you arent aware at how completely subjectively & superficialy you view the issue of religion, albanian pederasty, as well as alb's anatolian & caucasus origin. oh, well...
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Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 21:49:49 GMT -5
Hahaha, you see it that way because your bastardized mind is no match for any real Albanian's. I've made you look like a complete idiot in every one of my replys to you (which I can credit you with doing most of the work). Now stay out of this thread and the balkans you stupid bulgar.
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Post by highduke on Dec 14, 2008 21:59:30 GMT -5
With what have you made me look like an idiot - unreferenced comments? Behind every remark I make stand hundreds of scanned pages from books by western, albanian & croatian anthropologists, historians genealogists & geneticists as well as scanned original medieval documents & modern english translations to be joined soon by a glosary of chechen-albanian non-islamic synonyms. your just a deluded eurochechen where is your backup?
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 14, 2008 22:00:12 GMT -5
the Albanians who are most eager to become Greeks in Greece are the Muslim ones they want to integrate so bad its sad lol. ive never heard of an Orthodox Korcar in Greece saying theyre Greek, they always say theyre from Korca becuse Greeks usualy discrimante people from Korca alot less then other Albanians. anyway i think i orignially stated that Albania and Romania should become allies, not tht they are, and they are the only countries in the balkans that have no interest and should naturally be allies not beause of religion or anything else just becuase of the many things they share. and lol @ kaur and vlach....thanks Turkali, say kalispera to ur Greek yia yia from me...hahaha. Turkey is not a natural ally. it is a forced ally because of interest and because we share enemies, a natural ally is one u have no conflict with but also its not of interest. thanks to all who agree with me, a shame taht even Romanians are not arguing with me on this, but so many Albanians are... Korca is not "half-dead" the city folks have left but...our villagers are still there, and they can be programmed and LOL highduke u know who is infamous for pederasty around the wolrd right? its ur best friends down south, and no im not talking about Montengros
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Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 22:03:53 GMT -5
All of those sources none of which say we are asiatic-chechen. The funny part is that there are on the contrary many sources that actually do state you are yours as being such. Now get lost crni bugari.
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Post by highduke on Dec 14, 2008 22:13:02 GMT -5
Uh, the sources say you are Anatolian on account of the Dardanian element that was assimilated. the sources will say chechen, too in about 2 more weeks. Turks & Chechens are your allies by descent, religion & partly language as well as comon modern & ancient history.
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Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 22:15:08 GMT -5
You do not belong in the balkans.
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Post by highduke on Dec 14, 2008 22:20:21 GMT -5
whateva, nice pic by the way lol
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Post by servus on Dec 14, 2008 23:29:43 GMT -5
AdolfKarderi you are truly a retard same scope as highduke. I think you should change ethnicity to Roma-nian or Greek because truly i dont want to be identified with such a degenerate illiterate piece of s**t who knows nothing of the world. You prove the saying that Ignorance is Bliss. Also change the nickname you look like a 5-year old fool. Go support a lost cause of communism and let these kind of talks to big men. Ok lil kid.
As regards to allies in the Balkans. No interest links my country with Romania. They are gypsies beggar shephards, my countrymen are warriors highlanders. Big difference. They dont support Kosovo and thus are against our interest.
The only allies that could rise up in the future is probably Croatia and Macedonia or Turkey. Those can be our best bet but even then...
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Dec 14, 2008 23:37:46 GMT -5
Anatolia in greek means the land of Sun Rise the same as for Albanians and Albania that means Sun Rise !!!
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 14, 2008 23:58:33 GMT -5
AdolfKarderi you are truly a retard same scope as highduke. I think you should change ethnicity to Roma-nian or Greek because truly i dont want to be identified with such a degenerate illiterate piece of s**t who knows nothing of the world. You prove the saying that Ignorance is Bliss. Also change the nickname you look like a 5-year old fool. Go support a lost cause of communism and let these kind of talks to big men. Ok lil kid. As regards to allies in the Balkans. No interest links my country with Romania. They are gypsies beggar shephards, my countrymen are warriors highlanders. Big difference. They dont support Kosovo and thus are against our interest. The only allies that could rise up in the future is probably Croatia and Macedonia or Turkey. Those can be our best bet but even then... fuck u first of all that was my fukcing opinion and i can give it just like u can give urs and u have no right to tell me what i can or cant write here little man. as far as shephards...funny man most of Albania is rural and we have many shephards of our own, we dedicate a lot of our folk music to shephards, another common bond with Romania lol allies with Macedonia? lmao ok sure we can be allies with Serbia too then like i said before, Serbia is the best ally for us along with Macedonia lolol i already explained why Romania didnt support Kosova's independence and jsut because Macedonia supported it doesnt mean theyre our ally, fyi Croatians view Albanians the same way Serbs too, thye call us "siptare" gypsies, so do Macedonians, i dont think Romanians do that? and i dont have to change my ethnicity to state my opinions, i'll leave that to u, i'll be chill no matter waht ethnicity, im one of those Albanians that can be say hes Albanian without feeling ashamed like u, and be universally liked by all ps: i didnt even bring Greeks into this but since im Ortho Alb from the south im automatically linked to them lol u guys are clowns ;D
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Post by servus on Dec 15, 2008 0:20:02 GMT -5
^ good. because this is solely your own opinion. you make it seem as you are the only orthodox alb in here. So stop fukin talking in our name. i am one too and i dont agree with your view. let alone you are a complete idiot for supporting something so flawed as communism. people like you are hte ones that bring shame to Albania and i wouldnt feel bad if an Hitler came along and put your kind to concentration campes. you are a disease thats hurting my country.
and dont bring your personal life in here... just because you have gypsie friend from romania doesnt mean we all have a connection to them.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 15, 2008 1:23:22 GMT -5
Servus, stop insulting other ethnic groups. I happen to have a large number of Romanian friends...
The best of them will leave as well. They will either come to Tirana or they will head off to Greece. Korca is a dead city and will continue to sink. One day it will bask on its memory like its likewise dead Voskopoje.
That is a natural ally you idiot. It fits all the criteria: common enemies, non-colliding interests, do not border each other... what do you think a "natural ally" is? To jerk off each other while looking at pics of Illyrians?
You never have? Really? Then you need to open your fukin eyes more.
Those shepards are something alright. I mean, how many fires do they cause yearly to produce more grazing land? How many roads to their sheep block? Those ugly busted smiles with missing teeth... oh the epitome of the greatness of Albania that betrays unimaginable ignorance.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 6:16:53 GMT -5
You do not belong in the balkans. she belong to chechenyan/georgian look like them, easrly cousins of serbs from byzantines historians: "In the Caucasus, the homeland of the Sarmatian Serbs, they left their traces around the river Volga (Araxes in Greek). In modern Georgian, that river is called "Rashki". This name was used by Balkan Serbs as a name for their first state and is found wherever the name Serb is found in clusters indicating settlements. It is often used to designate hydronyms and likely meant 'river' or 'water' in Old Serb"
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