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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 15, 2008 7:47:21 GMT -5
In my honest opinion l believe its best for Albania to look towards Turkey as a natural ally. When l first joined these forums l was amazed to see our fellow Albanian debators talk so lowly of their strongest supporters.....also, in my opinion, you never let a traditional ally down. I don't wan't to be a smart a** here but you guys should be giving Turkey your Besa.
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 8:05:04 GMT -5
Which 'Byzantine historian' wrote that crap Prijesdardanian? Show us the link. BTW: nice to see you eurochechens at each other's throats over who should be your next ally after the West screwed you over Kosovo. 2 words 4 U: al Qaida, become their next front, OrthoAlbs should get with the program & convert to Islam but if you wanna lose everything, stay with the West.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 8:31:04 GMT -5
Chechenduke, that said Emperor VII Porphyrogenitus who have referred from ancient greek historians...now are you happy Alanian boy?
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 8:52:14 GMT -5
Porphyrogenitus never wrote the quote you are attributing to him. I even uploaded scanned pages of his De Administrando Imperio to my website & own the book, hell I read it 3 times over & even took a course on it in university. You are a pathetic, deluded chechen liar.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 9:03:46 GMT -5
you are an idiot hajduk what a joke...not said that only Porphyrogenitus also ancient greek historians Plinus and Tacticus that serbs lived in Caucasia beetwen (ossetia, Chechenya and Georgia) and Iran (beetwen Pakistan and Tajakistan)...can you opposition that i said? prove?
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 9:09:24 GMT -5
Ok
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 9:10:17 GMT -5
please dont cry
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 9:18:55 GMT -5
i cant help it, laughing at your unreferenced comments brings tears of laughter. get some sources if ynu want to be taken seriously
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 15, 2008 9:19:19 GMT -5
^ good. because this is solely your own opinion. you make it seem as you are the only orthodox alb in here. So stop fukin talking in our name. i am one too and i dont agree with your view. let alone you are a complete idiot for supporting something so flawed as communism. people like you are hte ones that bring shame to Albania and i wouldnt feel bad if an Hitler came along and put your kind to concentration campes. you are a disease thats hurting my country. and dont bring your personal life in here... just because you have gypsie friend from romania doesnt mean we all have a connection to them. Ore po cke qe hidhesh si kaposh ti kshu, sikur te ka ngrene buken gomari...first of all my topic had nothing to do with Communism. or Hitler, or your own inferiority complexes... I dont know any Romanians actually, im not basing what i wrote becuase i "know" Romanians or on reliigon. on the contrary, we have a common language, common roots, and evne common shephard culture... ps: im glad ur Orthodox. Good for u. I'm not, I'm Agnostic lol the only reason i bring up my Orthodox background is because i was called a "kaur" by Turkaliu. but anyway try to stay on topic and not be all over the place angry man.
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 9:25:24 GMT -5
Adolph, the romanians HATE you & a few hundred common words & linguistic commonalities do not sway their opinion just because you assimilated a lost Dacian tribe. Romanians are solidly Orthodox in culture & mentality.
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 15, 2008 9:27:54 GMT -5
Servus, stop insulting other ethnic groups. I happen to have a large number of Romanian friends... The best of them will leave as well. They will either come to Tirana or they will head off to Greece. Korca is a dead city and will continue to sink. One day it will bask on its memory like its likewise dead Voskopoje. That is a natural ally you idiot. It fits all the criteria: common enemies, non-colliding interests, do not border each other... what do you think a "natural ally" is? To jerk off each other while looking at pics of Illyrians? You never have? Really? Then you need to open your fukin eyes more. Those shepards are something alright. I mean, how many fires do they cause yearly to produce more grazing land? How many roads to their sheep block? Those ugly busted smiles with missing teeth... oh the epitome of the greatness of Albania that betrays unimaginable ignorance. First of all let me say I have never encountered anyone as self-hating as you are. It's really quite sad. Didn't you say you're half Korcar? we get u hate your Greek side now u hate your Korcar side too? you hit yourself a lot, dont you? Korca will never die. It will always be the center of Albanian Orthodoxy, the center of Albanian culture, education and religious harmony, swallow that and choke on it lol. Once again I must stressed that Turkey is a forced ally of interest. First of all my topic was about allies in the balkans. most of Turkey is not even in the balkans but in the midddle east and Asia so you try not wondering off topic too, we dont care to hear about how much you enjoy sucking Turkish dick.. and like i said before Albania is mostly rural, we are a shephard nation just like Romania. Shephards/Coban are important in Albanian culture too, the heart of Albanian music always sings about cobenjte
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 9:33:47 GMT -5
Romanians are not a shepard nation any more than other balkaners, you deluded chechen. go away f.aggot, even your own people are laughing at you. TURKEY = THE ONLY ALBANIAN TRADITIONAL, GENETIC & HISTORIC ALLY!
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 9:50:08 GMT -5
BTW, Im starting a poll on this subject to see where everyone stands on this issue
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 9:59:33 GMT -5
Romanians are not a shepard nation any more than other balkaners, you deluded chechen. go away f.aggot, even your own people are laughing at you. TURKEY = THE ONLY ALBANIAN TRADITIONAL, GENETIC & HISTORIC ALLY! 1) Serbian Vassalage and Cooperation with Ottoman Empire 2) most words who adobtet from turkish language are Serbian people (like they adobtet slavic language after arrived in balcan from chechenya/ossetia) illyria.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=shqiperiaalbania&action=display&thread=13650
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 10:10:24 GMT -5
Just because Serbs had their own traitors &8 adoptf some new words, doesnt put our place in history in jeopardy: America had British loyalists, the French had the Vichy pr- NAZI govt. the point is that the majority of the people in all cases rejected co-operation with the enemy, unlike albos who betrayed Skenderbeg & converted to Islam, making Turkey your best ally.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 10:28:59 GMT -5
We Albanians at least never foght againt Europeans or Balcans when all european were in war with othomans...serbs are only people who helped them (guest why? maybe the Alanian nostalgia? ) to conquest Europe ecp. Italy, Albania and Hungary.....about religion Albanians never cared about religion, the reason why we changed religion was because we were Catolichs and catolichs were biggest enemy of Othomans...those Albanians who did'nt changed religion moved in South Italy.
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 10:35:26 GMT -5
Yeah ok, 30 vizirs, pashas & beys were Albanians, Skenderbeg would be ashamed of his chechen subjects!
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 15, 2008 10:42:17 GMT -5
Yeah ok, 30 vizirs, pashas & beys were Albanians, Skenderbeg would be ashamed of his chechen subjects! pashas in othomon empire were all balkan's people...like Ibrahim Rugova was president during serbian occupation of Kosova doesnt mean that they traitors on the contrary they foght againt othomans, good example is Ali Pashe Tepelena Also Skanderbeg themself was pasha of Kruja but he like Ibrahim Rugova or Ali Pashe tepelena foght for their people unlike Servus chechenis helped othomans to conquest neighbors and Europe
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Post by Mimi on Dec 15, 2008 10:45:09 GMT -5
I really do NOT think Romania is our ally, i never heard any albanian say that either. there are NO clossness between albanians and romanians whatsoever. we dont realy on Romania about anything.
natural allies? hmmm i dont think it works that way you have to have common interest to support each other at first and then build something from there.
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Post by highduke on Dec 15, 2008 10:49:09 GMT -5
Skenderbeg betrayed the Turks to fight for freedom but ynu betrayed him & gave his enemies 30 pashas & vizirs & your whole people converted to his enemies religion which he renounced. thats Betrayal
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