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Post by terroreign on Jul 5, 2009 8:17:42 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 5, 2009 9:20:37 GMT -5
^ That's old and has been discussed to death here...
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Post by Aris on Jul 5, 2009 9:22:55 GMT -5
Mwehahahaha ! Kanaris I know that I shouldn't insult no one , but , this Slavic Apes and cocksuckers are the most reatard people on earth ! They are so sick to arrive to corrupt this stupid Jew program and to claim Alexander THE GREAT with a fucking flag invented 15 years before ! Just fuck you Jews , fuck the ZOG of UK ! Hahaha , Alexander THE GREAT related to the Vardarska flag ! Hahahahaha !
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Post by terroreign on Jul 6, 2009 13:32:00 GMT -5
So what's your feelings on this?
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 6, 2009 14:15:17 GMT -5
A simple misunderstanding. In order to avoid exactly such misunderstandings in further future...Greece is blocking today the FYROM-entrance into the NATO and the EU untill they will change their constitutional name. There is no more to say.
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Post by ioan on Jul 6, 2009 14:22:01 GMT -5
Omg! How can those Englishmen be so ignorant on one of the greatest men? Also how can they not reasearch before asking?
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Post by Aris on Jul 6, 2009 16:26:34 GMT -5
So what's your feelings on this? F**k the mercenaries , the shame of our race !
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Post by Kassandros on Jul 6, 2009 16:39:25 GMT -5
"What nationality was Alexander the Great?"
According to him himself.. or according to UK and US?
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 6, 2009 16:43:12 GMT -5
he was undoubtedly macedonian who kinda spoke greek
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Post by Red Brigade on Jul 6, 2009 16:45:47 GMT -5
The question doesn't really make sense because nationalities mean different things in different periods of history.
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 6, 2009 17:22:53 GMT -5
he was undoubtedly macedonian who kinda spoke greek Show me the Macedonian language..... in it's written form.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 6, 2009 17:53:35 GMT -5
the bible was written in greek...does it mean Jesus was greek?
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 6, 2009 18:41:10 GMT -5
Jesus didnt claim to be Greek. Alexander did. Greek was much more than just an "international" language for him. It was his mother tongue. If you want to doubt the connection between the modern and ancient Greeks...do it...but dont question Alexanders belonging to the ancient Greeks.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 6, 2009 19:58:57 GMT -5
Your an idiot terroreign, people like you makes me embarresed to say l have distant montenegrin ancestry. I sometimes doubt your nationality. Anyway, show us and the readers from credible sources, sources that are even 100, 200, 300 or even 400 years old that prove Alexander is related to the vardarians, l don't want to see sources from the 20th or 21st century......good luck!.
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Jul 7, 2009 0:23:06 GMT -5
What is more believable that Alexander was Macedonian or that Jesus was born to Mary, a virgin, by a miracle of the Holy Spirit? Yet none of you here would dispute the latter but yet are so outraged at the Macedonians' claims.
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 7, 2009 0:38:12 GMT -5
Yes he was a Macedonian and there were Spartans also Corinthians etc; But they were all Hellenic tribes, a total of more then 200 tribes at those times.
It was Philip of Macedon who united the Hellenic tribes into a single state which we now know as Greece...
ALEXANDER I (Grandfather of Alexander the Great) said.
''...WHEN FIGHTING THE PERSIANS AT PLATAES...I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE GREECE ENSLAVED , AS I AM A GREEK TOO , OF THIS ANCIENT NATION...''
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Post by macmako on Jul 7, 2009 1:04:35 GMT -5
Slimy bigot! Your post only accomplished one thing. It shows how fvcking ignorant you are, nothing else. Great job.
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 7, 2009 1:21:13 GMT -5
"The country on the sea coast, now called Macedonia, was first acquired by Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his ancestors, originally Temenids from Argos."and from Herodotus, Book I, 56 "...but the Dorians on the contrary have been constantly on the move; their home in Deucalion's reign was Phthiotis and in the reign of Dorus son of Hellen the country known as Histiaeotis in the neighbourhood of Ossa and Olympus; driven from there by the Cadmeians they settled in Pindus and were known as Macedons; thence they migrated to Dryopis, and finally to the Peloponnese, where they got their present name of Dorians."
In Herodotus (Book 9, paragraph 45.2) Alexander I, king of Macedonia says: "... I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery ..."
Tell your king who sent you how a Greek, ruler under him of the Macedonians entertained you well at board and bed." (Herodotus V, 20, 4)
Alexander III (the Great) talking to the king of the Persians says: (Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4) "Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon (leader) of the Greeks [...] "
Arrian ("Alexander the Great" 1,16,7) describes the following incident: After winning the battle of Granicus ... "He [Alexander the Great] sent to Athens three hundred Persian panoplies to be set up to Athena in the acropolis; he ordered this inscription to be attached: Alexander son of Philip and the Greeks, except the Lacedaemonians, set up these spoils from the barbarians dwelling in Asia"
Herodotus also states clearly the Greek origin of the Macedonians!
"And that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as themselves say, I happen to know myself,” (Herodotus V, 22, 1)
Although there are numerous references from the ancients " unfortunately there isn’t enough room to mention them all" the most important evidence are the Archaeological discoveries!
Everything that has been found in Ancient Macedonia is only Greek!
All the inscriptions on monuments, coins and other artifacts are written in Greek. Hundred of inscriptions both state and private are all in Greek. The names of the Macedonians written by themselves on their tombs are only Greek! There are no ancient monuments with a different language. Furthermore there are a large number of discoveries in Asia in the route of Alexander the Great. All these monuments, discovered in Persia Egypt Pakistan, Syria, India and many more countries, prove that Alexander’s quest was Greek and that his goal was to spread the Greek civilization all over the world. Don’t forget that Alexander created a gigantic Greek empire and made Greek an international language!
His successors continued his worked and they formed the Hellenistic Greek world !
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 7, 2009 3:03:25 GMT -5
Jesus didnt claim to be Greek. Alexander did. Greek was much more than just an "international" language for him. It was his mother tongue. If you want to doubt the connection between the modern and ancient Greeks...do it...but dont question Alexanders belonging to the ancient Greeks. whether the macedonian tribes were greek or not its a topic of debate, i would be more inclined to believe that, due to their geographical location and them being described as being different looking and having distinct behaviour to other civilisations around them, they were a mix of thraco-illyro-grecian tribe with unmistakable greek influence, greek culture permiated every facet of the balcans, it spread like wildfire, just because there is a mcdonalds in skopje it does not mean its an american state...i do, however, believe that greeks have the right to stake the most claim to the ancient macedonians than anyone else.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 7, 2009 3:05:58 GMT -5
Alexandros = Alex+Aner (tou Andros: Generative case) (protector of men) His father Phillip, Philippos = Phil+Ippos (fond of horses) His mother, Olympias
Now the father of Philip was Amyntas (from Amyna = defense) The mother of Philip was Euredice (Euridiki = (euros+diki) Wide Justice)
The slavs conquered Greece at 500 AD, up to 1400 in some regions, however they left after the ottoman conquest.
Why cant we all accept the obvious and live happily?
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