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Post by terroreign on Oct 31, 2007 1:28:39 GMT -5
"a small section (less then 1000 sq km) of Serbia and Albania"
oh so now part of the ancient macedonian region is in serbia too...ehhh right
look the point is a country has no control over what another country wants to call itself, as long as its not the same as the other country's name, which it isnt.
The country is called Greece, the people Greeks. No 'macedonian' name there.
It would be different if this region in greece was officially known as 'macedonia' before communist Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia came about, but that's not the case
As I said, you can look at Azerbaijan and Albania, Different languages, Azerbaijan was in ancient times known as "Albania" and there is no evidence of the name of Balkan Albania as the name of the country before the 14th century
So now there are Albanians that dont speak Azeri??? XD
The Republic of Macedonia is a nation of Slavic-speaking Macedonians, get over it.
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 31, 2007 5:03:21 GMT -5
Fyromians are a load of crap....and as such they should be treated btw...
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Post by rex362 on Oct 31, 2007 11:02:31 GMT -5
see...now your automatically on my sht list ...
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Post by radovic on Oct 31, 2007 12:53:50 GMT -5
"a small section (less then 1000 sq km) of Serbia and Albania" oh so now part of the ancient macedonian region is in serbia too...ehhh right If you weren't an idiot and read my posts you'd see I'm referring to the goegroaphical region called Macedonia now, not to ancient Macedon. so terroreign please learn how to read. Because Macedonia was an ancient Greek state, whose territory is 90% in modern Greek territory, and because there is no Macedonian nation. Their is no point in Greeks calling Greece Macedonia since Greece is the nation state of Greeks and Macedonia is a region of Greece. It was. So it isn't different it's exactly the same. You mean it is the nation of people who do not know their own history. Let's see a nation where the people are nearly all historical revisionists. Terrorreign I suggest you move there.
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Post by terroreign on Oct 31, 2007 13:17:52 GMT -5
"The term Maceodnia geographically applies to FYROM, a small section (less then 1000 sq km) of Serbia and Albania, a small section of Bulgaria and northern Greece. "
Right here you're saying that the geographical term of macedonia applies as well to serbia...
learn to write...
i should move there? well you should move to a dictatorship hellhole where the freedom of self-expression is disallowed, since you're against that kind of thing
"History is what you make it" - I suggest you learn this fast and good
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Post by radovic on Oct 31, 2007 14:49:10 GMT -5
"The term Maceodnia geographically applies to FYROM, a small section (less then 1000 sq km) of Serbia and Albania, a small section of Bulgaria and northern Greece. " Right here you're saying that the geographical term of macedonia applies as well to serbia... learn to write... How about you learn to read. Macedonia as a geographical term does. you claimed that i was claiming Serbia has some kind of connection to ancient Macedon when it doesn't. The term Macedonia was used for that geographic region only in the 19th century and hence it is not connected to ancient Macedon which was only present in souterhn portions of that relatively new geographic term. There's a differende between freedom of expression and pseudo history/historical revisionism. If I was to write a book claiming the holocaust never happenned -- would yopu support that historical revisionism being published or not?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Oct 31, 2007 15:06:16 GMT -5
Serbian anthropologist that lived in 19 century (called Jovan Cvijic) was clear about one thing regarding that region. He stated that (after extensive research) population residing in what is not western Bulgaria (Sofia region and proximity), eastern Serbia (Nis region and proximity) and Fyrom was not a population with a clearly defined national consciousness. Their language they called simply slavic and vewed themselves as simply slavs (rather then Bulgars, Serbs). Of course he never mentioned of any macedonian identity among the slavophones of what is now Fyrom. It is clear this is phenomenon that starts with Tito's new Yugoslavia. Cvijic (Article in Serbian)PS: I will have that article translated some time in the near future.
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Post by radovic on Oct 31, 2007 15:29:39 GMT -5
Serbian anthropologist that lived in 19 century (called Jovan Cvijic) was clear about one thing regarding that region. He stated that (after extensive research) population residing in what is not western Bulgaria (Sofia region and proximity), eastern Serbia (Nis region and proximity) and Fyrom was not a population with a clearly defined national consciousness. Their language they called simply slavic and vewed themselves as simply slavs (rather then Bulgars, Serbs). Of course he never mentioned of any macedonian identity among the slavophones of what is now Fyrom. It is clear this is phenomenon that starts with Tito's new Yugoslavia. Cvijic (Article in Serbian)PS: I will have that article translated some time in the near future. I read of this in a book and it said that French and British travell writers who in the late 1700s and early 1800s had same conclusions.
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Post by Arxileas on Nov 1, 2007 8:46:45 GMT -5
arhillea otan anigo tin selida akouo ton tourkiko ethniko imno...poios aschetos ton ewale? sigkrine Ah katalava tora Kastorianos, tha eine apo ta google ads ? telos panta den tha valo afta ta links ksana.
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