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Post by Patrinos on Jan 8, 2010 6:12:08 GMT -5
Only patos is Greek. Krevet is not a greek word, the greek one is KLINH miris is an indoeuropen ancient slavic word... Is dar=dwro, zivot=zwh, zena=gynh, mis=mys also greek? It is just that Greeks and Slavs and Germans and Latins were one in the same 20,000 years ago... krevet/krevat comes from greek krevati<medieval krevatin< hellenistic. kravation<classical kravatos....(btw do you say your bed klinh?...do you live in a hospital?) kundur comes from the medieval greek koundouri, meaning shoe, and loaned to the most balkanian languages, turkish included. miris comes from greek myros(sweet oil, unguent, perfume), as the link above says. Its only used in the balkan slavic languages, serb,bulgarian, Macedonian and the non slavic romanian...
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Post by L0gjICK on Jan 8, 2010 8:13:11 GMT -5
cardak (balcony) pare (money) cese, novcanik (wallet) kufer (suitcase) kondure (shoes) kondure (shoes) sapon (soap) krevet (bed) kaladon (toothpaste) kupatilo (bathtub) cesma (sink) plaza (beach) cebe (blanket) fijoka (drawer)
The Albananians (well the ones in Macedonia at least) use similar words.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 8:28:59 GMT -5
Only patos is Greek. Krevet is not a greek word, the greek one is KLINH miris is an indoeuropen ancient slavic word... Is dar=dwro, zivot=zwh, zena=gynh, mis=mys also greek? It is just that Greeks and Slavs and Germans and Latins were one in the same 20,000 years ago... krevet/krevat comes from greek krevati<medieval krevatin< hellenistic. kravation<classical kravatos....(btw do you say your bed klinh?...do you live in a hospital?) kundur comes from the medieval greek koundouri, meaning shoe, and loaned to the most balkanian languages, turkish included. miris comes from greek myros(sweet oil, unguent, perfume), as the link above says. Its only used in the balkan slavic languages, serb,bulgarian, Macedonian and the non slavic romanian... i never heard of the word kundur... also krevet is 100% latin el.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B5%CE%B2%CE%AC%CF%84%CE%B9κρεβάτι < (λατινικά) grabatus Also, i may not say "klinh" in my house, but i do say kataklish, instead of KATAKREVATIASMA which would sound 100% ridiculous and non-greek. Miris is also in Croatian/Bosniak languages which never came in contact with Greeks...
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 8, 2010 9:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 10:05:01 GMT -5
patrine, seriously, why are you such an idiot? you dont wanna to repeat our debate in the fashion of SERVIANA in ancient Olympia, where you failed miserably, i still laugh at it!! Why dont your photoshop says : Κλινη Ελληνικώς Can you show me THE FIRST presence of the word "kravatos" in the greek literature? Is it AD or BC? PS hey psss, you know very well, that no matter how much you try to read (can you? really?), you will always have the brains of the vegetable.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 10:05:54 GMT -5
since when serb and croatian are different languages...? Since when did Croats came in contact with Greeks?
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Post by ljubotan on Jan 8, 2010 10:36:56 GMT -5
Very interesting, the words that Ioan typed were nearly the same as mine. Not too far off and we also use 'palto' as well and some people say 'ezero' instead of 'jezero'.
I'll disagree that those words were 'serbianized', because my parents, grandparents or greatgrandparents never even went to school.
I would like our Bulgarian members here to make some posts in Bulgarian, but use the 'j' character intead of the 'y' when typing.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 8, 2010 11:02:13 GMT -5
I am more interested in words associated with village and house as I consider them older in age versus others on average at least.
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Post by ljubotan on Jan 8, 2010 11:57:59 GMT -5
kuca - house doma - home seno - hay trava - grass dudjan/prodavnica - store leb - bread viloska - fork noz - knife kasika (100yrs ago), today 'lujca' - spoon niva/livada/polje - farm land metla - broom put - road ljudi - people staracki dom - home for the elderly lopada - shovel zigla - brick boja - color temel - house foundation magla - clouds drvo - tree krpa - cloth musama - platic covering for a table, or floor penta - paint krava - cow mecka - bear zajac - rabbit ververica - squirrel staklo - glass naocare - eye glasses ram - frame med - honey piper - pepper krompir - potatoe kupus - cabbage povrdje - fruits casa - glass cup peglo - iron posta - mail plostat - mail office grne/botca - old bottle people use to put liquids in when traveling/working jastuk - pillow tendzer - pot tepsija - round flat pot used for pita etc komsija - neighbor mleko - milk bebe - baby koza - goat tele - calve stoka - farm animals/cattle pistol - pistal puska - riffle metak - bullet sibrik - match upalac - lighter prsten - ring djerdan - necklace jelka - christmas tree alka - bracelet diomont - diamond jagoda - strawberry praska - peach jabuka - apple grozje - grapes krofne - doughnuts cenka - corn visok - tall malo/malicko - small/tiny debel - fat slab - skinny mrza - lazy tanak - thin pomoc - help vasduk - air
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 8, 2010 13:28:51 GMT -5
patrine, seriously, why are you such an idiot? you dont wanna to repeat our debate in the fashion of SERVIANA in ancient Olympia, where you failed miserably, i still laugh at it!! Why dont your photoshop says : Κλινη Ελληνικώς Can you show me THE FIRST presence of the word "kravatos" in the greek literature? Is it AD or BC? PS hey psss, you know very well, that no matter how much you try to read (can you? really?), you will always have the brains of the vegetable. Gatoni... let me know better whats going on in Peloponnesos... and how we call our villages... Its BC... give me the first mentioning in latin... books.google.com/books?id=MeUPjcq7hAEC&pg=PA318&dq=grabatus&as_brr=3&cd=5#v=onepage&q=&f=falseVirgilius and Cicero who used firstly that word in latin lived in the 1st century BC.... and the word is documented according to TLG(i bet 100000€ that you have no idea what this mean.... ;D) in 2nd century. And it isn't photoshop ore malaka...unless i'm a hacker and i've edited google books.... check ...: books.google.com/books?id=YHQqAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA291&dq=grabatus&as_brr=3&cd=7#v=onepage&q=grabatus&f=falseHaven't you been to the Church and listen to the Evaggelia....? Haven;t you heard "Aron ton kravvaton sou kai peripatei" that Jesus says...? The word comes from the macedonian ghravos- oak. I guess ore malaka that you've done this years now and your brain since then is full of garbage...
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 8, 2010 13:31:18 GMT -5
since when serb and croatian are different languages...? Since when did Croats came in contact with Greeks? In the same times the nearby Serbs and Romanians... and while they started to use the word " livada"...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 13:47:24 GMT -5
Look, paliopoustra, gamo thn patra sou, kai to kolo arvanitoxwri sou olo, in the case of SERVIANA you failed miserably, but you dont wear trousers to admit it. Your method to deny the very well documented fact, was 100% GAY I remember you brought up "chronicle of Moreas" which talked about an irrelevant village "SERGIANA", which had nothing to do with Olympia, and then tried like a p**y arvanite that you are to throw sand at the readers here, claiming that there was no Serviana, but rather Sergiana..
Since then, not only do i not consider you worth of talking to, i consider you 100% MINARA as well (and pusti of course)
Now, In case of Krevati, i give up, however, 1) the word DOES NOT SOUND LIKE ancient greek 2) you failed to give ONE SINGLE ancient greek writter (BC) who used this word.
poustara...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 8, 2010 13:53:03 GMT -5
more food for thought pou tha to paikseis kai ellhnas: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Slavs429??? LMAO!!!! what happened to your ANCIENT GREEK PEOLOPONESE paliopoustra? i at least i acknowledged the slavic toponyms in Epiros, i accepted the fact, and tried to study a little bit what was going on, in the search of my own roots (which of course are not slav at all, AS WAS PROVEN LATER)... What have you done, you idiot besides copying pasting nervously from left and right (without comprehending anything in the meantime) So spare me your filthy language, and get your boot out of here... IDIOT
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 8, 2010 14:10:06 GMT -5
;D
sovara tora prepei 'h na se exei faei i minarela 'h na se egei gamisei Patrinos paliotera kai na to xeis apothimeno.
Yes yes...if it wans't the slavoarvanitovlachovenetsianofragkiki Peloponnesos you would still be under Turkiye... its our fault that we spend time fighting for your asses...
PS.I'm sorry for your bad experience you had with the moraiti focker of yours...
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Post by ivo on Jan 8, 2010 14:37:19 GMT -5
kuca – house – kushta doma – home – dom, doma seno – hay - seno trava – grass - treva dudjan/prodavnica – store – diukjan (old), magazin leb – bread – hljab, hleb, viloska – fork – vilitsa (vilichka as the diminutive form) noz – knife - noz kasika (100yrs ago), today 'lujca' – spoon - lazitsa niva/livada/polje - farm land – niva/livada/pole metla – broom - metla put – road - put ljudi – people – ljudi (old), hora staracki dom - home for the elderly – starcheski dom lopada – shovel - lopata zigla – brick - tuhla boja – color - cvijt temel - house foundation – don’t know this in Bulgarian, possibly ‘osnova’? magla – clouds – oblatsi (magla is fog) drvo – tree – d’rvo krpa – cloth – k’rpa musama - platic covering for a table, or floor - mushama penta – paint - boja krava – cow - krava mecka – bear - mechka zajac – rabbit - zaek ververica – squirrel - katerica staklo – glass - staklo naocare - eye glasses – ochila ram – frame - ramka med – honey - med piper – pepper - piper krompir – potatoe - kartof kupus – cabbage - zele povrdje – fruits - plodove casa - glass cup – casa/chasha peglo – iron – zheljzo? posta – mail - poshta plostat - mail office – poshtenski ofis or poshta again (plostat is a town sqare or something like that) grne/botca - old bottle people use to put liquids in when traveling/working – g’rne jastuk – pillow - vazglavnitsa tendzer – pot – panica? tepsija - round flat pot used for pita etc – the word sounds familiar, but I don’t know if its used in the same context komsija – neighbor - komshija mleko – milk – mliako or mleko bebe – baby - bebe koza – goat - koza tele – calve - tele stoka - farm animals/cattle – stoka, dobitak pistol – pistal – pistolet, pishtov, patlak, pishtak puska – riffle - pushka metak – bullet – patron, kurshum sibrik – match - upalac – lighter - zapalka prsten – ring – pr’sten djerdan – necklace - gerdan jelka - christmas tree – elha, koledno d’rvo alka – bracelet – grivna? diomont – diamond - diamant jagoda – strawberry - jagoda praska – peach - praskova jabuka – apple - jabulka grozje – grapes - grozde krofne – doughnuts – donati, ponichki? cenka – corn - carevica visok – tall - visok malo/malicko - small/tiny – malko/manichko debel – fat - debel slab – skinny - slab mrza – lazy – m’rzel tanak – thin – t’nak pomoc – help - pomosht vasduk – air – vazduh
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Post by ljubotan on Jan 8, 2010 15:04:49 GMT -5
Correct Asen:
Magla - it is fog and 'oblak' is cloud Voche - is fruit and 'povrche' is vegetable peglo - is iron for clothing plostat - you may be correct in town square? tengere - is a cooking pot diamant - we say it the why you spelled it
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Post by ivo on Jan 8, 2010 18:15:30 GMT -5
In Bulgarian, 'tengera' is a bigger cooking pot. Or rather, a deep cooking pot.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 8, 2010 18:28:00 GMT -5
Interesting. Can you find me other Slavic languages and if they use the term? In Latin, Domus means a house (like Domestic). In Homeric Greek Domus (written the same way) is a room. In Albanian dhome means the same thing, room.
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Post by ivo on Jan 8, 2010 18:37:26 GMT -5
Dom/Doma or some variation of that term is practially used in all Slavic languages. I think that it's one of those words that is similar in most Indo-European languages, as is the case with the word 'mother'.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 8, 2010 18:38:58 GMT -5
Yea, I though it would be indo-european. Just like the root pi(pianeci) for drinking.
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