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Post by ioan on Mar 21, 2010 11:36:48 GMT -5
ljubotan, dont get angry. i m sure there are southern and macedonian serbs who are respected and i think you should definately be, because you dont have complexes concerning your southern serbian origin and I think you can easily make serbs proud. however, liars and fictioners like Novi are not tolerated by the serbs. he is vicious and evil and hateful towards bulgarians because he has huge complexes about his origin. i think its understandable why the serbs would look down on him.
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Post by ljubotan on Mar 21, 2010 12:51:37 GMT -5
Ioan,
While I'm not Bulgarian, I do protect the morals, values and attributes of all us southerners! Southern Serbs, Macedonians and Bulgarians were always a 'laughing stock'of people for Serbians and other Serbs alike from ex republics.
I don't respect that because it was us that were most brutally beat by the Turks, and despite it all in comparison we did not convert to Islam on high numbers like Bosnians did.
I don't like Bulgarians being referred to as Turks or Mongols, because many Serbs from Bosnia and Montenegro can be labeled as former Albanian highlanders from 300yrs ago!
I am for unity amongest all of us and hate those who divide, because then I despise them!
Praise God that my ''cigan'' family never intermingled in marriages with albanians and kept face instead! Can't say the same for those in further western balkans. Goes to show just how weak they are and nothing more then talk:)
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Post by todhrimencuri on Mar 21, 2010 14:12:10 GMT -5
Say what you say about intermingling with Albanians, but if your "Mac" family had done so perhaps you would have a solid core ethnic background instead of one that is entire artificial and created. At least our state's core ethnic base holds while you are still arguing over whether your really Serbian or Bulgarian, and in the end remain the laughing stock of them both AND the western Balkans.
Have some more little fun parades in Skopje with your Alexander Philipovski armor... that is making things better.
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Post by ljubotan on Mar 21, 2010 15:20:40 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with being considSered seperate from both Serbian and/or Bulgarian; however, I do have an issue the Macedonian name itself.
Second, go fk yourself sqiptar! If I were albanian then I'd be a killer, drug dealer, thief, rappist and over all nasty in my opinion. You guys are backwards and that's not how I'd wanna be raised.
Third, as much as I disagree though the Macedonian state ain't going anywhere! As far as your Ilirida dreams, well that's all it will ever be. See no matter if you losers are majority in Tetovo etc, it will never be officially yours and that in itself is enough to always eat your albo's alive:)
Mark my word, the balkan issues are not resolved only on hold; we'll all resume play in the future under the perfect circumstance....be ready
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Post by todhrimencuri on Mar 21, 2010 16:58:25 GMT -5
If you were Albanian you would have a real identity. We may have a number of negative connotations, but the very fact that you dont have any at all shows just how much more insignificant you are. Lol. Ooooo scary! Btw, if Balkan issues are on hold, a nation as fake as Macedonia is the one who should be the most worried. Yours is surviving on the wests good will. Not to mention both Kosova and Albania have a larger population (and growing) and potential. Ilirida is not currently a reality, however Tetova is as good as ours already: You guys cant touch it. And so long as Albanians remain segregated, so long as we dont hire people in our business who speak "FYROMIAN", so long as we have our own quarter, district and consistent population growth, Ilirida will always be on the table for the taking at some point and time in the future.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 21, 2010 18:05:43 GMT -5
"Mark my word, the balkan issues are not resolved only on hold; we'll all resume play in the future under the perfect circumstance....be ready"
I second that also, yes, l do agree that most of it will depend on the situation of both Russia and the US in the future.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 21, 2010 18:18:44 GMT -5
"By the way, a true Serb is one who doesn't mix and marry with Croats and give their Bosnian Serb daughters to Bosnian muslims, especially after WW2. So much for the very b.s ''obraz' you hillbillies always talk about:)" Ljubo, my family were considered to be close to a mixed serbian slovenian family before the crap after 1991. The father is serbian and the mother slovenian, all three children were baptised in the Catholic church etc...The father and mother of this family are no longer together, they are divorsed. A few years ago he came around to my folks house and they talked about the baptism of his children, today he regrets it and he knew what was going on but he let it go because he loved his wife
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Post by ulf on Mar 21, 2010 18:49:41 GMT -5
So what if someone is Southern Serb? Serb is Serb, no matter if he was born in China or Macedonia. I see here some of you mention Bosnian Serbs hate those South Serbs...but you don't know Serbs in Serbia call those Bosnian Serbs - Bosanci, which they take as insult. Also most of Serbs from Serbia don't take Bosnian Serbs as if they were Serbs, but as if they are foreigners. They also might have complex toward those South Serbs simply because South Serbs are looking more like real Slavs unlike Bosnian ones. Vojvodina is mostly inhabited by those South Serbs who ran away + Germans who were mostly brought under Habsburg Empire, that's why they are lighter then other Balkan Slavs(Slovenia excluded). Same was in Croatian province of Slavonia
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Post by ljubotan on Mar 21, 2010 20:55:38 GMT -5
Albo,
Yes, Tetovo is bascially yours by population, I'm not blinded by that very fact; however, it ain't yours on paper and it won't be. So what, you have Kosovo Albo's and Albo's from the motherland; who do you think we have?? Don't think Serbia would allow 5.5 million Albanians over run 1.2 mill Slavs from Macedonia. Did I forget to mention Bulgaria?
You're trying to flex but all I see are droppy biceps like a cartoon character.
The only thing your people have ever brought to your nation is shame and backwardness. You'd rather kill for vendetta and spend the rest of your life in jail, instead of enjoying this beautiful world. Do you think your bad for pulling guns on people? I've rarely ever met a Detroit Albanian fight with his fists:)
Macedonians on average are more of a peaceful quiant peoples, but I'd love for you Malisors to try some shet in Tuzi, Montenegro! Those Montenegrin brothers will screw your wife infront of you and then take you out.
You may watch us bicker on these forums and in politics, but we're all united to push your azzez into the Adriatic!!
One day the right politicans will gain power in both Macedonia and Montenegro and then we'll see how fast they denounce Serbia's southern provinces illegal proclaimation.
By the way, did you guys ever beat down the Serbian army ever in history? Did your sorry motherland come to your rescue...ever?
Go ..... yourself punk!
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Post by todhrimencuri on Mar 21, 2010 21:31:43 GMT -5
Malsors are making plenty of noise in Crna Gora and they have no plans to stop. And no Albanian is afraid of the sheep of that country... who let by and recognized independent Kosova. The Serbs and Crnagorci are dealing with eachother well. Albanians are a very united people. A catholic priest may come out and speak some nonsense here and there, but your from chicago, you have seen very well how much money Albanians gave to the UCK and how successful they have proven to be in the money department. We dont want all of Macedonia, only what belongs to us. And we dont need to force ourselves to take it. You macedonians have been selling land left and right in the Albanian populated regions, not to mention our higher birthrates and hightened nationalism. A few more years and Skopje's Albanian mahala will be half of the city. We can wait, time is on our side. Not to mention that as the Albanian's grow, the Slavic Muslims around us are conforming to us also. In the Tetova region plenty of Torbeshi are starting to transform into patriotic Albanians, even when often they cant speak the language. Sanzaklis are also very supportive of us and many are starting to re-aquaint themselves with old Alb consciousness. Once Turkish dies out entirely, we will be the leaders of the western Balkan Muslims also. Owning by population is as good as owning entirely.
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Post by gavrilo on Mar 21, 2010 23:10:59 GMT -5
im all for attending any type of orthodox church. to me it is all the same, whether serbian, bulgarian, lebanese, russian or greek. same religion same church, just slightly differant customs and masses.
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Post by tyreke on Mar 22, 2010 0:31:53 GMT -5
Serbs from Serbia look at south Serbs (Vardar) as the same . Also, most Srbijanci believe "Macedonians" are brothers and are just victims of brain-washing( personal belief is majority of Vardarians are Bulgarian but you cannot ignore the Serb minority). Srbijanci dont usually like the wild behavior of Bosanci (regardless of ethnicity).
As for Tetovo and kosovo that sh*t is "prodano", what do you expect to do when your forced out of your land? Eventually Tetovo will join Kosovo in independence, thats just reality. The Albanians will get whatever they want as long as they got the devil on their back (USA, Zionists)
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ioan
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Post by ioan on Mar 22, 2010 2:55:55 GMT -5
personal belief is majority of Vardarians are Bulgarian I like those Serbs.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 22, 2010 3:26:40 GMT -5
^ ofcourse you like those Serbs because it satisfies your expansionist agenda. More seriously Ioan, why do many Serbs believe this?, you know why, its because of the lack of knowledge Serbs have of the region and even themselves. During the communist times, serbs weren't even taught serbian history, they only learnt of Tito and his partisans. If only Serbs knew about themselves and the southern balkans
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 3:37:45 GMT -5
Ljubotan bro. ( i am greek so just take my perspective on it)
Serbs are Serbs. PERIOD. South Serbs know it, Bosanci know it, lale know it, sumadinci know it, Crno Gorci know it. The only ones trying to hurt Serbdom is a) the austrian propaganda (the result of this is Arsenije and my Bosnian wife, of course now my wife almost fell in love with Leskovac and Nis and wants to buy land there). This propaganda was kept pretty active during YU-years, since german agents were partying free in ex-YU b) the bulgarian propaganda which tries perpetually to find reasons to divide Serbs. (among this sad salad making todays bulgarians, Serbs-Thracians-Tatars, the only semi-decent part is the serbian part)
Ljubotan bro, i hear you had an unpleasant experience. I am sorry for that. (i've been through the same sh1t some 13+ years ago) But these kind of personal disasters happened in ex-YU all over, especially after 1991.
I repeat i still haven't found any warmer places on earth (regarding soul) than 1) Predejane motel in Leskovac/SRB 2) the flea market in Brcko RS/BiH
Ljubotane, childish BS apart, south Serbs and Bosnian Serbs are of the same substance. (sastojici!) Not to mention that as you or some other friend said, the whole Krajina serbs come from the tribe of Vojnici, once settled in Epir/Greece... and thats very very south!! So, i think that those Serbs used to be Serbs and Orthodox since more than at least 1000 years.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 4:15:44 GMT -5
Srbijanci dont usually like the wild behavior of Bosanci (regardless of ethnicity). How is this wild behavior exactly? Drunk seljaci in kafane behave the same in Banja Luka and Leskovac... take my word for it... So, in which manner was Nikola Tesla ... wild??? Although i like all Serbs, especially in the manners field, i'd say that maybe Serbs from RS are slightly more "friendly" than Serbs from Sumadija, meaning they act more slowly, leaving more "space" to you. Also, South Serbs speak much much faster than Bosnians, and also Lale speak the slowest of all!! I can almost discuss in Serbian philosophical maters with a Lale!!! In RS the say: "Molim?", in Nis they say "Ha???" (just kidding ;D )
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 5:43:33 GMT -5
And please guys, Bosnian Serbs played their ass in order to be able to write cirilic in the road signs and lift the Serbian flag high in churches.... 30,000 dead Bosnian Serbs is not smth small i think....
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Post by ioan on Mar 22, 2010 7:04:36 GMT -5
todays bulgarians, Serbs-Thracians-Tatars, the only semi-decent part is the serbian part Could this guy be more pathethic? ? He and Novi will again "not trust" the ancient Greek and Roman authors who "politically incorrectly" (for them) recorded extensively the Serboi since their arrival from Asia and surprise surprise...they were not slav. So equalitaing serbs and slavs is just dumb (thats why its understandable why the arvanite and novi han make this "mistake" over and over and over again).
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Mar 22, 2010 7:23:17 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with being considSered seperate from both Serbian and/or Bulgarian; however, I do have an issue the Macedonian name itself. Second, go fk yourself sqiptar! If I were albanian then I'd be a killer, drug dealer, thief, rappist and over all nasty in my opinion. You guys are backwards and that's not how I'd wanna be raised.Third, as much as I disagree though the Macedonian state ain't going anywhere! As far as your Ilirida dreams, well that's all it will ever be. See no matter if you losers are majority in Tetovo etc, it will never be officially yours and that in itself is enough to always eat your albo's alive:) Mark my word, the balkan issues are not resolved only on hold; we'll all resume play in the future under the perfect circumstance....be ready And you're a moderator? What a joke...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 7:29:05 GMT -5
todays bulgarians, Serbs-Thracians-Tatars, the only semi-decent part is the serbian part Could this guy be more pathethic? ? He and Novi will again "not trust" the ancient Greek and Roman authors who "politically incorrectly" (for them) recorded extensively the Serboi since their arrival from Asia and surprise surprise...they were not slav. So equalitaing serbs and slavs is just dumb (thats why its understandable why the arvanite and novi han make this "mistake" over and over and over again). is this thing a robot or a human? Or just an ex-slav (SERB) vampire with no soul left?
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