Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 7:30:14 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with being considSered seperate from both Serbian and/or Bulgarian; however, I do have an issue the Macedonian name itself. Second, go fk yourself sqiptar! If I were albanian then I'd be a killer, drug dealer, thief, rappist and over all nasty in my opinion. You guys are backwards and that's not how I'd wanna be raised.Third, as much as I disagree though the Macedonian state ain't going anywhere! As far as your Ilirida dreams, well that's all it will ever be. See no matter if you losers are majority in Tetovo etc, it will never be officially yours and that in itself is enough to always eat your albo's alive:) Mark my word, the balkan issues are not resolved only on hold; we'll all resume play in the future under the perfect circumstance....be ready And you're a moderator? What a joke... Greeks and Albo moderators have been writing worse things for ages...
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Post by ulf on Mar 22, 2010 8:58:56 GMT -5
If you were Albanian you would have a real identity Oh yeah? And whats the origin of this "real Albanian identity"?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 9:07:14 GMT -5
^^^ Chechenia!
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Post by tyreke on Mar 22, 2010 11:33:41 GMT -5
Pyrros, to answer your question about bosanci and hercegovci they are seen as very violent, they were known for that throughout the former yugoslavia. they also dont look at serbia or beograd nicely and have harsh words for them because of lack of support they had during the war
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Post by donnie on Mar 22, 2010 12:06:14 GMT -5
In holy lands like Jerusalem, Bethleem, the rival orthodox priests do much much much worse things and in a more ugly manner. The serbian monk fight was alright for my tastes. LOL, what a retarded comment. "Because the guy nextdoor sells dope, it's OK for me to do as well". Two, three or 100 wrongs don't make a right. Such behaviour is in great contrast to "formality" and "sophistication", which you try to present as Serb qualities ... when everyone knows that Serbs are among the most rude cvnts to walk this earth, swearing at anything holy from mothers to God etc. Like every second word they use is a curse.
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Post by ivo on Mar 22, 2010 12:20:09 GMT -5
Bulgarians don’t make fun of Macedonians. The only Macedonians that are a laughing stock are those hard core believers in the Ancient Macedonian theory of origin.
There is no agenda. The only thing that we are saying is that it was only until recently that Macedonians became Macedonians, and before that, the vast majority identified as Bulgarians.
This so called propaganda is supported by the practically all the world, outside of Serbia, and even in Serbia at times.
Yup, this guy’s very misinformed.
They are both very misinformed and are only driven by anti-Bulgarian notions.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 22, 2010 12:43:49 GMT -5
Pyrros, to answer your question about bosanci and hercegovci they are seen as very violent, they were known for that throughout the former yugoslavia. they also dont look at serbia or beograd nicely and have harsh words for them because of lack of support they had during the war Man, does this include muslims as well? Its the first time i hear it. From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs
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Post by insomniac on Mar 22, 2010 13:00:42 GMT -5
Macedonia is just another Bosnia(3 ethnicities) and major minorities such as Albanians. It's funny when Mak Slavs talk about being backward. Europe remembers what happened in Srebrenica. In my opinion, if this mentality goes on. This will be the future. img225.imageshack.us/img225/8891/makedonija19125mbpi4.pngAt least in Bosnia there is some sort of Yugoslavism to hold people together. In Macedonia there is no such thing only good will by the west. When that support fades and tough times are ahead. You will know who will bite the dust first.
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Post by macmako on Mar 22, 2010 13:07:06 GMT -5
im all for attending any type of orthodox church. to me it is all the same, whether serbian, bulgarian, lebanese, russian or greek. same religion same church, just slightly differant customs and masses. I do, too. I've attended Russian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, and even Syriac along with my standard Greek Orthodox churches I attend. It is interesting to see the different customs with all of them.
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Post by tyreke on Mar 22, 2010 15:18:31 GMT -5
Pyrros it applies to all of them
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 23, 2010 0:18:15 GMT -5
Pyrros it applies to all of them imo, muslims are 1) much much blonder than the serbs 2) with almost yellow skin 3) just slightly taller than the serbs on average 4) having a "urban" mentality 5) more refined-diplomatic-....sneaky (since they were merchants, while serbs farmers and soldiers) - dont confuse this with manners and politeness. so, i cannot put Bosnian Serbs with Muslims in the same basket. They were clearly discrete species! By looks, Bosnian Serbs are just like Srbijanci. There are no major differences to be frank. (except the idiom)
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Mar 23, 2010 7:20:43 GMT -5
Pyrros it applies to all of them imo, muslims are 1) much much blonder than the serbs 2) with almost yellow skin 3) just slightly taller than the serbs on average 4) having a "urban" mentality 5) more refined-diplomatic-....sneaky (since they were merchants, while serbs farmers and soldiers) - dont confuse this with manners and politeness. so, i cannot put Bosnian Serbs with Muslims in the same basket. They were clearly discrete species! By looks, Bosnian Serbs are just like Srbijanci. There are no major differences to be frank. (except the idiom) Pyrros you have created a whole southern Serb agenda probably I think just to amuse your self since your wife is Bosnian. Anyway this stuff is nonsense. Bosnian Serbs & Bosnian Muslims are genetically very very similar. I've gotten to know quite a few Bosnian Muslims over the lats year or so & for the greater part they just look like Serbs to me. Some have a unique look but they just look like Serbs 90% of the time. Saying they are very blonde just shows how much bs you are spewing because it's simply not true.
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Post by tyreke on Mar 23, 2010 8:19:00 GMT -5
^ the above post is right Bosnian Serbs & Muslims are generally the same. The Muslims just have a weird accent I notice.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 23, 2010 9:18:18 GMT -5
imo, muslims are 1) much much blonder than the serbs 2) with almost yellow skin 3) just slightly taller than the serbs on average 4) having a "urban" mentality 5) more refined-diplomatic-....sneaky (since they were merchants, while serbs farmers and soldiers) - dont confuse this with manners and politeness. so, i cannot put Bosnian Serbs with Muslims in the same basket. They were clearly discrete species! By looks, Bosnian Serbs are just like Srbijanci. There are no major differences to be frank. (except the idiom) Pyrros you have created a whole southern Serb agenda probably I think just to amuse your self since your wife is Bosnian. Anyway this stuff is nonsense. Bosnian Serbs & Bosnian Muslims are genetically very very similar. I've gotten to know quite a few Bosnian Muslims over the lats year or so & for the greater part they just look like Serbs to me. Some have a unique look but they just look like Serbs 90% of the time. Saying they are very blonde just shows how much bs you are spewing because it's simply not true. honestly man, you are an idiot, since you haven't seen Bosnia not even in picture. 1,2,4,5 above is the words of my wife who was raised in Bihac. (with muslim majority) 3 is my own observation from the local population in Brcko. (in Brcko i can tell the muslim from the Serbs from miles away). I've gotten to know quite a few Bosnian Muslims over the lats year or so & for the greater part they just look like Serbs to me. Some have a unique look but they just look like Serbs 90% of the time. Saying they are very blonde just shows how much bs you are spewing because it's simply not true. which means that you never stepped foot there, and you are breaking our balls all these years for things you dont have a clue. do me a favor, go for a walk in Sarajevo, then repeat the same experiment in Bijeljina, then you will either come to my words or you are a denier (like the majority of people in here) PS i didnt say that Muslims are very blond, i said they are much much blonder than the Serbs. there is a slight difference. PS2 I still cant get your anti-serb obsession when in fact you have never been there.. thats weird. I, on the other hand, have had such a pleasant experience in south Serbia and i have so many friends from there....
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 23, 2010 9:33:31 GMT -5
^ the above post is right Bosnian Serbs & Muslims are generally the same. The Muslims just have a weird accent I notice. Its the other way around. Looks are different, but accent identical. Dodik and Mladic are considered "blondish" for Serb-Bosnian standards, while e.g. Silajidzic is a considered a typical muslim. For anyone still having questions, i tell you that, (for those .... "remote" scholars) watch some OBN or FTV (FBIH channels) and compare the faces there with the ones in RTRS or BN. What else do we have to say?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 23, 2010 10:18:01 GMT -5
in the range of muslims faces like these are very common:
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Post by tyreke on Mar 23, 2010 14:25:49 GMT -5
pyrros in the diaspora i find things a lilttle bit different. I havent been in Bosnia ever. To me most of the time they look the same (sometimes u get the odd albanian looking one like Elvir Rahimić) but generally the same. To me the accent seems different. Maybe someone else can clear this up for us. But I still think Bosnians and Hercegovians are crazy mofos lol.
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Post by ulf on Mar 23, 2010 17:44:17 GMT -5
in the range of muslims faces like these are very common ... Serbia has lot of different faces. Some are like those pic's you presented, some are darker, some are lighter. My family, for instance, have in 80% of cases lighter features then these people on pictures. But then again for someone else is different thing round. Likewise for Bosnian Muslims. Croats, Bosnians and Serbs are closest by appearance, no doubt here. PS to Albanian fellow here... All Albanians I saw, and I saw them many, weren't closely looking to either Serbs or Bosnians or Croats or any of South Slavic nations. There is some minority of Slavs you assimilated and possibly some Celts, that's why some Albanians appear lighter
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Post by tyreke on Mar 23, 2010 21:12:51 GMT -5
Ulf, the shokoj do look most different in all the balkans, they just got a look to them where you can tell the guy is a shiptar
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Mar 23, 2010 22:43:24 GMT -5
in the range of muslims faces like these are very common ... Serbia has lot of different faces. Some are like those pic's you presented, some are darker, some are lighter. My family, for instance, have in 80% of cases lighter features then these people on pictures. But then again for someone else is different thing round. Likewise for Bosnian Muslims. Croats, Bosnians and Serbs are closest by appearance, no doubt here. PS to Albanian fellow here... All Albanians I saw, and I saw them many, weren't closely looking to either Serbs or Bosnians or Croats or any of South Slavic nations. There is some minority of Slavs you assimilated and possibly some Celts, that's why some Albanians appear lighter What does mean here lighter, do you have idea?....lighter can be every phenotype like nordic (have significantly more light features), meds, dinaric, atlantid ect...Albanians are mostly Dinaric...so south slavs more assimilated albanians (that is very visible) than albanians did on slavs or any invaders, and south slavs looks diffirent from North Slavs.
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