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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 24, 2010 16:04:55 GMT -5
Inherent truths need not proofs.
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Post by aayy on Apr 24, 2010 16:59:29 GMT -5
Karla del Ponte wrote in her book that its next to impossible to investigate crimes commited by Kosovo Albanians because they have very closed society and never testify against their own, being afraid of mafia. When Karla del Ponte was going to write her book, she was warned by Sweetzeland officials against mentioning negatives concerning Albanian mafia. Karla del Ponte didn't want troubles for herself and her country and followed the advice (according to her own words)
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Post by insomniac on Apr 24, 2010 17:00:58 GMT -5
Pyrros. A fat, lardy, greasy Greek who spends most of his time on this forum. Get's arise out of people simply by annoying them. And that's no virtue. A lazy bastard, a bollano-looking half-ape who can't express himself properly. Painting into other peoples, properties that he possesses in his character. A 45-year old failure, a child in character, a retard in the literal sense.
Shut up you fool. Haven't you realized by now that most Albs just skip reading your posts. Your sole existence in this forum is to annoy and disrupt conversations.
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Apr 24, 2010 17:34:19 GMT -5
Karla del Ponte wrote in her book that its next to impossible to investigate crimes commited by Kosovo Albanians because they have very closed society and never testify against their own, being afraid of mafia. When Karla del Ponte was going to write her book, she was warned by Sweetzeland officials against mentioning negatives concerning Albanian mafia. Karla del Ponte didn't want troubles for herself and her country and followed the advice (according to her own words) I have her book in my hand as I type. Which page did she write that? And it's Switzerland.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 24, 2010 23:09:12 GMT -5
Pyrros. A fat, lardy, greasy Greek who spends most of his time on this forum. Get's arise out of people simply by annoying them. And that's no virtue. A lazy bastard, a bollano-looking half-ape who can't express himself properly. Painting into other peoples, properties that he possesses in his character. A 45-year old failure, a child in character, a retard in the literal sense. Shut up you fool. Haven't you realized by now that most Albs just skip reading your posts. Your sole existence in this forum is to annoy and disrupt conversations. are you f**king kidding me? Albies dont read my comments, for the same reason that animals cannot understand humans.That's neither bad or wrong. Thats normal. What is not normal, is me (or other humans) trying to filter out the huge volumes of trash the albos produce in here.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 24, 2010 23:16:21 GMT -5
"Novi is clearly one of the least intelligent people in this forum... why do you persist on reading his nonsense?" Sorry to say, but your one of the most disabled minds of the forum, l have never taken you or donnie seriously. Germans and italians during WW2 bring more of you into kosovo, tito keeps those illegals there without expelling them + he brings more Albanians into kosovo until 1948, approximately 300,000 new Albanians during and after WW2 came and settled kosovo....why?, because tito forms a bond with the Albanian communists, then when Yugoslavia broke with Stalin and the Cominform in 1948, your hero Hoxha's Albania became a dangerous center of propaganda and subversive activities against regime in Yugoslavia, ultimately aimed at annexing Kosovo, Metohia and parts of Macedonia to Albania, where your "Albanianism", embodied in the idea of creating a Greater Ethnic Albania, entered the foundation of state ideology. Just to remind you tito and his new commie authority, disallowed the return of expelled serbs and montenegrins to the region because they were considered by the communists to be exponents of the interwar greater serbian hegemonistic policy!!. Very natural. Of course the germans would like to populate Kosovo with their subjects. Any big power would do smth like that, if it were in german's shoes. The fact that Vardarska Banovina, from became what it is today off Kosovo and FYROM, is a clear sign, that from slav-majority Kosovo and slav majority FYROM we went today to a alb-majority Kosovo and a FYROM with a 25% albo-minority. Someone has to be a real thick-head not to understand that.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Apr 25, 2010 4:32:42 GMT -5
Yeah, you also claim Greece was fully serbs but they forget their roots by the time, you f.bastard ;D
Kosova, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Greece was serb...who is the next?......Perhaps Turkey and Hungary ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 25, 2010 5:13:30 GMT -5
What happened in Greece (till down to south Peloponese) in 1389, 1821, is also what happened to Kosovo (more or less). Slavs go, "others" come and multiply.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 25, 2010 8:28:40 GMT -5
I think that no matter what religion you are you should respect other religions. For example I grew up in a very multicultural multireligion society. Musims, Christians(every sect), Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Jewish, Rastafarian, Pagan, Hare Krishna, Sikh everything you can imagine.. I was taught that people have their own beliefs and that it isn't our place to make fun of anyones religion. If someone chooses to believe in a monkey god, or shaves their wives heads, or smokes weed. It isn't our business. I am very careful not to offend anyone. I don't make comments on other peoples religions as it isn't my place, ultimately it isn't of signifigant importance to my life. Therefore I find that you making fun of the Kuran and such things disrespectful. Of course I cannot ever say you shouldn't but thats my view on it. Just because you are an atheist it doesn't give you rights to make fun of other's beliefs. This goes for about 99% of peoples views on life. I don't comment unless asked for my opinion.
I guess this is why I have a very wide variety of friends, from so many diff backgrounds, and to be honest I feel it just makes my life richer, so many different views and ideas, I get bored if Im only around a type of people.
As for the girls making comments on others... thats just a typical female, usually it is the consequence of a inferiority complex, or jealousy which somehow is fulfilled by putting down others. It is also insensitivity to the environment they are residing in, many ethnic groups carry forward their habits and views to the new country they reside in, with time they adapt. But if this group of 'freshies' usually find other 'freshies' then it delays their process of integration.
The thing about Turks is, especially the ones from richer ends of society, they weartheir designer clothes to go to the bloody shop to buy milk. They are all on trend alert, obsessed with clothes, hair and make up, fashion is of ultimate importance in their lives. As you know Americans are chilled, trackies and caps to the shops, you can walk about in flip fops or even your pyjamas and no one cares, the same goes for the UK. Turkey isn't like that, in Turkey appearance is perhaps one of the most important things in these girls lives. Therefore when people dress differently they get shocked.
By the way, when i first came, I used to complain to my then bf about how dressy the girls were, and why do they wear their best outfit to take a walk in the park and stuff..... it happens its a culture shock.
As for American chicks not being bitchy? well I know a couple of American chicks, and they have unusual bitchy issues, these issues are not generaly about who wears what, but more so about, 'who said what..' They are also offended more easily. I find Americans boring to hang with. Canadians are ok, but they are truelly a people of depression. Americans are also easily tricked by people from the Balkans and especially Turks.
No Turk goes to America and comes back without bedding lots of American girls. It is totay normal for the American girls, but a high point for the blokes, who in Turkey would have to treat a girl like a total queen, for ages, buy presents, and take them to the best places before they can get them into bed. Just differences in society.
Aussies are great on this point, In the world I have seen and lived, they are the most chilled, laid back, unbitchy people, and even when they do bitch, its in such a laid back way it doesn't stress you out.
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Post by thracian08 on Apr 25, 2010 10:59:01 GMT -5
I also disagree with the generalizations that some people made about Turks here.
Fanatic - NO, actually Turks would be the most moderate of all Muslim people.
Additionally about comments of Turkish boys and girls; all I can say is I also went to undergrad with 100's of Turks, and no Turkish boy behaved the way you were talking about to people. It maybe that the rich kids that go to your school come from different type of background. Maybe they got rich later??
Also, Turkish girls gossip, but so do all women. At my work all the women do is gossip and they're all Americans.
And about men misbehaving - I can attest that Italians and Mexicans make me feel the most uncomfortable, Italians flirt with their wives around! A Mexican tried touching my sister! Gross!
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Post by ivo on Apr 25, 2010 11:02:47 GMT -5
so true
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Post by thracian08 on Apr 25, 2010 11:05:41 GMT -5
American women are super aggresive.
They are manly and think they need to behave like that in order to succeed in the businessworld. NO joke about that.
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Post by rusebg on Apr 25, 2010 12:52:16 GMT -5
Very hairy, too. Especially his back. One correction, Insomniac. He spends his life here, not most of his time. Day and night. In heat and cold. During volcano eruptions and whatever natural calamity. His hairs grow up to unbelievable length but he is still here. He is as inevitable as Pazar's stupidity.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 13:11:05 GMT -5
Italians are trashy people. Ive lived around them enough to understand this. They are people who can make a million dollars and still act like they just came out of a village. Sadly this is the same with many Balkan and Turkish people as well. They become wealthy but still remain loud and obnoxious. Just now they end up with more money that makes them think that they are special.
Case in point: There is a very nice Turkish restaurant in the city, I forgot the name now but its not 2nd and 48th. I took my friend there and the owner was sitting next to us talking to his workers. He had just drank a bit and was kind of yelling and shouting. My friend translated what this guy was saying to his workers. He kept saying 'In this restaurant i am Allah. Dont try to fuk w me cuz i will fuk u.' He was accusing some workers of stealing money in his drunken rage, while his workers looked terrified. This is the same stuff I see from restaurant owners from the Balkans.
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 14:20:51 GMT -5
Ermir,
I have Karla del Ponte's book in Russian. The title of the book "Madam Prosecutor: Confrontations with Humanity's Worst Criminals and the Culture of Impunity. A Memoir" By Carla del Ponte. With Chuck Sudetic.
Chapter 11 "Struggle in Kosovo: 1999-2007" p.448-499
Abstructs: pages 457-459 (translation is mine)
Investigations of the KLA’s crimes were the most tormenting for the Tribunal… Very few of Kosovo Albanians agreed to testify against the KLA members… Those people needed protection. Sometimes the whole families were moved to the third countries, though a lot of countries refused to admit them… To hire Albanian interpreter was as difficult as to find out Albanian witness. Albanian society is very closed. Many clans didn’t follow any other law besides blood revenge…
I am sure some stuff from UN and even from NATO was afraid for their lives and lives of their colleges. I think that some Tribunal judges were afraid of getting into Albanian hands. Even in Switzerland I was warned about possible revenge in blood. Some Switzerland officials warned me against touching Albanian problems in my book, so I do it very carefully. ------------ and a lot of stuff like that
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 14:22:29 GMT -5
Evidence please... we continue to provide, you continue to ignore.
"Im sure that" "Probably" "Most likely"
are all terms that are not admissable with studying something. Maybe for you Russkies it is, but then again, Moscow University is not topping education charts.
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 15:10:22 GMT -5
Toskaliku,
Of course our universities are far below high Albanian standard of education, but we are trying very hard to follow you.
You always were/are shining example for us. I remember in my school years I admired the way Albania tried to teach the USA, the USSR and China how to behave.
I used to think that this forum is mostly for conversation and chat but fortunately you prooved me wrong by providing the link with extremely sientific statistics, so I am impressed and speachless since then.
BTW You don't believe even Karla del Ponter, whom do you believe?
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 15:13:38 GMT -5
Please bring some references from Carla's book. I dont have it, but Ermal, one of the Alb memebers here, has read it and he has also asked for references from the book.
Or are you basing that off of articles you read that connect themselves to the book?
Svetlana, we need some direct references.
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 15:17:55 GMT -5
Toskaliku,
please read my post one more time. What I wrote was exactly the references from Carla's book.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 15:34:03 GMT -5
As far as I can say regarding De Ponte's book, only a small piece revolved around the Albanian crimes, chiefly the organ smuggling. The majority of the rest was on Serbian crimes. The ICTY didnt succeed in achieving evidence for her claims and said that there was not enough proof to open a case: www.icty.org/sid/9858Let me now touch upon another matter. The Tribunal is aware of very serious allegations of human organ trafficking raised by the former Prosecutor, Carla Del Ponte, in a book recently published in Italian under her name. No evidence in support of such allegations was ever brought before the Tribunal’s judges. As I said, the allegations are extremely grave. It is up to the Prosecution to determine what information they may provide on this matter.
Asked whether no evidence at all had been found in Northern Albania, Olga Kavran replied that no reliable evidence had been obtained to substantiate the allegations. (Olga, thats Russian. Finally a worthwhile Russky) Everything else is a footnote in comparison to amount of time spent on Serbian crimes. Or did you just focus on the Albanian allegations reading?
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