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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 28, 2010 12:34:26 GMT -5
After careful deliberation (taking into account appearance as well as behavioral patterns while ignoring colors) it appears that vast majority of humanity belongs to one of two races in the world and such are African race and Asian race. 1) African race is denoted by having large African eyes (which go curving downwards at edges), expressive, curvy female body, deep voice, long face, elongated body as well as serious (non-smiling) demeanor with upfront and honest personality. Such race comes in different shades and appearances due to the members living in different climatic regions for extended period of time which resulted in such appearance contrasts. I believe that initiating African race is most likely Ethiopid one from which Mediterranean one is derived from (from which in turn Nordic one is derived which is in effect Albino type). Bantoid one is perhaps youngest offspring (perhaps mixed with Cappoid like race) judging from the age of Bantu expansion. 2) Asian race is denoted by having slanted Asian eyes (which go left to right or curving upwards at edges), higher voice, oval face, decreased body as well as non-serious (smiling) demeanor with hidden and not overly honest personality. Such race comes in different shades and appearances due to the members living in different climatic regions for extended period of time which resulted in such different tones. The race covers much of Asia, aboriginal Lappoids of northern Europe, so called American Indians of Americas. If pure asian eyes are exhibited then such individual is asian irregardless of other features. There are other races of humanity that might be intermediate between the two mentioned or more distant such as Aboriginal Australian one, Dravidian in India, Cappoid in south Africa etc. African variations Asian variations
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Post by captainalbania on May 28, 2010 12:45:57 GMT -5
^ That's the stupidest thing i ever read Aadmin. No, really did you come up with that theory all by yourself?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 28, 2010 15:21:54 GMT -5
1. I would love to hear what exact part of what I said sounds illogical? 2. I will post some info on Ethiopids and some pictures of them. Ethiopid race
History
Ethiopids were typically classified as a Europid sub-race with some Negrid admixture. Their center of distribution was Northeast Africa. Physically, the classic Ethiopid was of medium height, with a dolicocephalic or mesocephalic skull (see Cephalic index). Facial form was essentially Europid, with no prognathism and a rather prominent, narrow nose. Hair form was often ringlety and skin color invariably brown, with either a reddish or blackish tinge. It is not certain which Europid sub-race formed the basis of this stock, but authorities often suggested either Mediterranid (or Proto-Mediterranid) and/or Orientalid (Arabid) ancestors.
European coloniolists in Rwanda considered the Tutsi to be members of the Ethiopid group, which was held to make them superior to the Hutu and Twa. This idea became popular among the Tutsi as well, who profited politically from it.
References
* Baker, John (1974). Race. Natl Vanguard Books. ISBN 0936396040. * The Races of Europe - The Mediterranean Race in East Africa * "The Transformation of "Hutu" and "Tutsi"". Leave None to Tell the Story:Genocide in Rwanda. Human Rights Watch. March 1999. www.hrw.org/reports/1999/rwanda/Geno1-3-09.htm. Retrieved 24 May 2010. Ethiopids are even viewed by some as offshoot of Mediterraneans which could be a fact by I still believe that Mediterraneans would have originated in eastern Africa (one of the starting points for human kind anyway). [img src="[/img] "]
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 28, 2010 15:23:16 GMT -5
some interesting replies found on internet The oldest fully recognisable as Mongoloid remains are only about 11,000 years old (America) but 7,000 years old in Asia. Before that the people in Asia had a mix of Caucasian and Asian skull feautes, like the Ainu.It's entirely possible they evolved into the calssic mongoloid form from Ainu-type people in the Northern parts of America.
For comparison, the oldest classically Caucasian skull is about 31,000 years old from the Mladec site in the Czech republic; the oldest N£groid skull about 13,500 years old from Jebel Sahaba in the Sudan.
Mongoloids are the babies of the family. They sure seem to have done well though, they are the dominant racial group now numerically. answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080726103854AAUKnbh
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 28, 2010 15:48:31 GMT -5
Ethiopians are also among the most genetically diverse people in the world. A 2001 study based on cluster analysis that looked at a combined sample of Amhara and Oromo found that they share 62% of their genome with Caucasians (Ashkenazi Jews, Norwegians and Armenians), 24% with other Sub-Saharan Africans (Bantus), 8% with Austro-Melanesians (Papua New Guineans), and 6% with Far East Asians (Chinese).[4] ------- "While there is debate among the scientific community of what exactly constitutes of “Caucasoid gene flow”,[16][17] the same study further stated: “Indeed, Ethiopians do not seem to result only from a simple combination of proto–Niger-Congo and Middle Eastern genes. Their African component cannot be completely explained by that of present-day Niger-Congo speakers, and it is quite different from that of the Khoisan. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_Ethiopia#Genetic_studiesTheir African genetic component that can not be explained by current speakers from African regions suggests that they supersede them in age (makes sense since Bantu Negroids are very new on historical scene and spread throughout much of Africa within last several thousand years) while on the other hand Ethiopians are only population that appears on some level related to all major human population and thus strongly suggest oldest age.
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Post by captainalbania on May 28, 2010 22:32:12 GMT -5
First of all, you can’t classify people into races based on just ONE feature, eye shape. Second of all, those white people you put on the bottom category who you say have “asian” eyes are actually squinting. Here is Renee Zellweger not squinting Third of all, here is an “African” with an epicanthic fold like east Asians. Here is another one. Furthermore, Ethiopians are not the “ancestors” of non Africans, because of the simple reason that east Africa has been the historical mixing pot of humans. You want to find “ancestors”. look no further than the Khoi-San. They have been racially “pure” for millenia, and seem to show the most “diversity” (well not really, but they seem to have features from most races combined in a unique and uniform way, unlike east Africans who just look mixed and haphazard). I posted Khoisan pictures above. They still live in hunter gatherer societies and use hunting techniques like endurance hunting that our ancestors used hundreds of thousands of years ago. Besides not knowing anything about races whatsoever, you fail to realize that the easiest way to classify people into races is skull analysis. Please educate yourself on this subject. www.redwoods.edu/Instruct/AGarwin/anth_6_ancestry.htm
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Post by Nikola on May 28, 2010 23:39:45 GMT -5
Admin, the pictures you have posted to use as examples are mostly of mixed race people.
The three black people you used (Vivica Fox, Chris Tucker & Robin Givens) are Americans, and the VAST majority of black Americans are mixed with white people. Those above would be mixed. Mila Kunis is of Jewish background, Renee Zelweger is part Asian, Ivanka Trump is half Polish, Bjork is Sami, etc, etc.
Real sub-Saharan Africans have wide noses & charcoal skin. Anyone lighter is probably mixed with whatever country they border.
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Post by hellboy87 on May 29, 2010 9:07:40 GMT -5
Renee Zellweger is half Swiss-German and half Norwegian Sammi
Bjork? I dont know what her ancestry is,but it must be at least partly Icelandic.She said in an interview that there are no Eskimos in Iceland.
Mila Kunis is of Eastern European Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.
I dont know about vast majority,but the majority of African-Americans who descend from slaves brought over the the US have a white ancestor.
Ivanka Trump is of German,Scottish and Czech ancestry.
Sub-Saharan Africans have dark brown skin and there are those with near black skin.Look at Alek Wek.
But East Africans have a bit of variety in skin tones.Most are dark brown,some near black and some are just brown and light brown.I've seen them.Many East Africans also have tall,narrow noses.
And yes,some of those African tribes have eyes that slant,though not as much as Northeast Asians.
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Post by Nikola on May 29, 2010 11:17:37 GMT -5
Yeah, my mistake, Ivanka is part Czech. But the rest I'm correct on, they are all mixes of something. I'm just saying that Admin chose the worst possible examples of everyone.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 0:08:38 GMT -5
Everything I wrote about their appearence and behavior patterns stands to the last example and renne is lappoid (depegmented mongoloid type native to Scandinavia) and "Zellweger's mother, Kjellfried Irene (née Andreassen), is Norwegian-born and of Sami origin" (Sami is native name for Laps who are most reminiscent in lifestyle and appearance to American Indians only depegemented) and one can see that in bellow you tube video where is is smiling and laughing (as an average asian would and for no apperenht reason to a non-asian at least) most of the time video was going on with her asian high pitched voice "Third of all, here is an “African” with an epicanthic fold like east Asians."That is Cappoid which is also what I covered when I stated (Cappoid being probably the most oldest of them all) "There are other races of humanity that might be intermediate between the two mentioned or more distant such as Aboriginal Australian one, Dravidian in India, Cappoid in south Africa etc.""Furthermore, Ethiopians are not the “ancestors” of non Africans, because of the simple reason that east Africa has been the historical mixing pot of humans."Their genetic variation and what I have wrote logically disproved that as there is no records of Caucasians, Bantus, Austro-Melanesians (Papua New Guineans) and Far East Asians coming together there in such numbers to explain the genetic variation and genetic relations to all of these. They are simply older them all and have sent humans towards these regions. The deepest branches in these gene trees — the ones that join nearest to the point of origin — presumably represent populations that are closest to the ancestral human population. Dr. Underhill finds that the earliest mutations in his Y chromosome tree are found at high frequency among the Khoisan and also among the Oromo and Amhara peoples of Ethiopia. source Genes Help Identify Oldest Human Population By NICHOLAS WADE (NYT) / Published: January 8, 2002 www.nytimes.com/2002/01/08/science/08ORIG.html?pagewanted=1African Americans are 80% mixed with Caucasoid but almost all these mixed are Aethiopid in appearance (as when the Bantoid mixes with Cacasoid their common denominator being Aethiopid prevalent in appearance). I will add further that it appears that people with freckles (like many deep voiced Celts for example) are actually getting a clue as to the the color of their skin in the ancestors before the mutation appeared that made them depegmented and thus more used to the new climatic conditions or new region they entered to stay in.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 0:21:34 GMT -5
Now little about Robin Givens and Asian like smiling (for no apparent reason) and Asian like high pitched voice.
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Post by hellboy87 on May 30, 2010 3:19:02 GMT -5
Asian high pitched voice?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 3:28:51 GMT -5
By Asian I mean Mongoloid race and bellow are samples of such voice. Many Indians also display similar voice quality. Traditional Chinese and Indian female singers appear to sing in high pitched voice which appears popular in those cultures. Tibetan Song Uighur Song Yi Chinese Folk Songs even instruments Chinese use in music often mimics high pitched voice
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 3:34:44 GMT -5
What I find add is that this voice seems most present among Albanians in the Balkans (with Romania coming close second I would say). MaccusFoto.nl - Albanian folk-singer in Çarşija, Skopje Xinxilushe - Albanian Folk Song Merita Halili - Potpuri
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 3:43:58 GMT -5
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on May 30, 2010 6:35:07 GMT -5
lol well EA you do have a good imagination at times if you can call it that.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 12:52:53 GMT -5
I would love to find out exactly what part of what I wrote is the imagination part and prompts you to think so?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 30, 2010 13:42:52 GMT -5
You are stupid Aadmin like Hajduke, you are Admin...do you have idea what stupidly you are writing?...shame.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 14:16:12 GMT -5
1) I am noticing emotion derived responses without any shred of logic to back them up thus unworthy of a response.. 2) This seems to be the anthropological story of Europe A) Asian Cro-Magnon enters Europe ~ 40,000 years ago (Asian-like Alpines are one of its oldest derivatives and one of its descendants as are Lapps which might exhibit a more authentic Cro-Magnon appearance versus Alpines who dwell closer to Mediterraneans and surely are somewhat mixed with them) B) Cro-Magnon encounters Neanderthals and there might have been some very low scale intermixing with this distant relative but close eno0ugh to interbreed. Neandertals and Cro-Magnon shared Europe until ~ 30, 000 years ago. C) Mediterraneans appear on the European scene some ~ 12,000 years ago and spread across Europe and dilutes Asian influence in Europe which gives a modern European appearance variations. They are associated with agriculture and deemed more advanced. ---------- # There is strong consensus that agricultural technology and the major breeds of animals and plants which are farmed entered Europe from somewhere in the area of the Fertile Crescent and specifically the Levant region from the Sinai to Southern Anatolia[86][87] (Less certainly, this agricultural revolution is sometimes argued to have in turn been partly triggered by movements of people and technology coming across the Sinai from Africa.)
# A later stage of the Neolithic, the so-called Pottery Neolithic, saw an introduction of pottery into the Levant, Balkans and Southern Italy (it had been present in the area of modern Sudan for some time before it is found in the Eastern Mediterranean, but it is thought to have developed independently) and this may have also been a period of cultural transfer from the Levant into the Balkans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe#Neolithic_migrations------- East African: In the deserts and highlands of Ethiopia, Eritrea, and the Somalilands is found a concentration of several related Mediterranean types, mixed in varying degrees with negroes. To the west these partial whites border on Sudanese negroes; to the southwest the partially Hamitic tribes of Kenya and Uganda form art extension of the peripheral Mediterranean racial area. To the north, the Beja-Bisharin group of Hamitic-speaking nomads connect the East African Hamitic-speaking peoples with their wholly white Egyptian and Berber relatives of North Africa. Somalia (Ethiopid) CAUCASOID SUBRACES racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.htmlPS: Clearly Coons sees them Ethiopids so similar to Mediterraneans that he sees them as one of Med variations. Conflict in that interpretation arises when one realizes that Ethiopids are among the two oldest human populations in the world together with San people of South Africa and that their age vastly supersedes that of Meds. PS2: This might be annoying to some but I am interested in true essence of things and not in maintaining dogmas so who is annoyed by this I suggest not to read it.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 30, 2010 14:44:34 GMT -5
Racial and ethnic distribution of ABO (without Rh) blood types(This table has more entries than the table above but does not distinguish between Rh types.)People groupP↓......O (%)↓........A (%)↓........B (%)↓.......AB (%)↓ Abyssinians...........43.................27.................25.............5Arabs.....................34.................31.................29.............6 Bantus...................46.................30.................19.............5 Egyptians...............33.................36.................24............8 Persians..................38.................33.................22............7 source en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#ABO_and_Rh_distribution_by_countryPS: The overall blood groups distribution clearly shows similar percentages for all types between Abyssinians (older Greek name for Ethiopians) and other groups showed there.
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