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Post by donnie on Sept 20, 2010 13:08:19 GMT -5
btw, below is a video of graduates from Trebinje ... only video i found, bad quality, but still it serves its purpose of a test, to test your claim that every fifth guy there is well over 2m;
We see quite a few ppl there .. and they look pretty normal, some tall, some short, none as tall as the burly giant from Skenderaj you said would be just "average" in Trebinje ... none! In conclusion, either youve never been in Trebinje, or youre a dwarf who thought normal ppl are "giants", or third option youre a foul liar!
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Post by plisbardhi on Sept 20, 2010 14:09:22 GMT -5
Truth is the above is not the stereotype of Albanians in Europe or anywhere else in the west. Albs in Greece tend to be from areas of the south that tend to be shorter on average. Also, for the most part height and athleticism of Serbs is largely an Illyrian genetic legacy. In other words, branches of northern Albanians that you slavicized and absorbed. See the comminalities between the Trebinje and Skenderaj youth and the major lack of anything slavic there. Trying to say all Albanians are as tall as Strugans is you guys being pussies.
PS Coon personally measured and racially analyzed hundreds of Gheg highlanders on their native soil. He is still considered a giant in his field despite physical anthropolgy being attacked as racist today.
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Post by ulf on Sept 20, 2010 15:05:45 GMT -5
Truth is the above is not the stereotype of Albanians in Europe or anywhere else in the west. Albs in Greece tend to be from areas of the south that tend to be shorter on average. Also, for the most part height and athleticism of Serbs is largely an Illyrian genetic legacy. In other words, branches of northern Albanians that you slavicized and absorbed. See the comminalities between the Trebinje and Skenderaj youth and the major lack of anything slavic there. Trying to say all Albanians are as tall as Strugans is you guys being p**ies. PS Coon personally measured and racially analyzed hundreds of Gheg highlanders on their native soil. He is still considered a giant in his field despite physical anthropolgy being attacked as racist today. "Also, for the most part height and athleticism of Serbs is largely an Illyrian genetic legacy" Do you understand by this statement you putting it clear that south¢ral Albanians lack "Illyrians gene" as you said? Also this would mean that more ~70% of Serbs are of Illyrian heritage and just ~30% of Albanians. So what are Albanians then? ;D Kosovo Albanians can be tall, but they are usually ~180 cm (younger generation) whereas younger Serbian generations are a bit taller ~183 cm(average normal person). Anyway in bigger cities height varies in whole Balkan. However those Albanians from south Macedonia I was talking earlier were about ~175 cm
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Post by plisbardhi on Sept 20, 2010 18:40:35 GMT -5
I didn't say that. Illyria was a pretty vast geographical area, and its is likely that Illyrians in central Albania for example were always shorter than Illyrians from say, Hercegovina. Like wise the Borreby strain in Montenegro was likely present in ancient times and was not nessecarily present throughout Illyria. Try again, Slav.
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Post by toskaliku on Sept 20, 2010 18:47:59 GMT -5
Ive been to Montenegro twice in my life and while I noticed the people were large, I dont think it ever reached the mythical status. At various areas in Bar I was among the tallest people around consistently, which is pretty common wherever I go. I still received the same looks from my height as I receive anywhere else I do, meaning the people were not on average confronted with such heights...
In my school there were two Serbs specifically brought in to play basketball from Serbia. One of them was Minja Kovacevic, whose size was so bulky the man could barely move and he turned out pretty chitty. But the regular Serbs/Macedonians in the school i came across were rather average looking. The Kosovar and Serbs who live next door look slightly different with the Serb being largely "larger" in build but nothing spectacular.
Honestly, the older men in both countries look extremely similar: protruding stomach, balding hair, middle-sized with large build. The younger kids were both significantly slimmer and taller with lame frohawk styles.
I think there is a bigger impetus in the Balkans to go into basketball when you are tall, especially bolstered by the 90s explosion of Yugo players in the NBA. Whenever they see that your height is above average, you are pushed into the sport. I remember as a kid everyone around me wanted me to become a basketball player and one time I was actually slapped by my mother when I told her I didnt want to play in my junior highschool team. Same thing with a Bosnian kid in my neighborhood.
I think that trying to isolate Yugoslavia's athletic successes to some kind of predetermined genetic/physical prowess is a huge mistake. Yugoslavia fostered a lot of physical competition and especially promoted international activity. The result was a very strong sports presence. When looking at most of the big Serb players, most moved from the villages they came from to a big city in the north that fostered their sports interests. This type of mobility was non-existant among Kosovo Albanians out of both discrimination and overall lack of assimilation into Yugoslavia (something that affected also the average Bosnian, IMHO).
Until recently it was common for Albanians in Albania to see Kosovo Albanians as wealthier and more developed. They had greater food portions to share out, they seemed to just live better. Obviously Tito's Yugoslavia was world's better than the isolationist and incredibly impoverished tyrannical Hoxha's Albania. The result was that many in the rural villages of the country barely ever got to see what cooked meat looked like.
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 20, 2010 20:26:25 GMT -5
ive seen plenty of short slavs. and if we are talking about on average.
on average serbs are darker than albanians. skin color wise. quite frankly like some tallish east indians. but you'll see the next generations of albs you will be surprised. let's not even compare greeks, they are simply nonbalkanians.
and... albanians are average by "western standards".
no need for dick measurement on who is more freakishly tall.
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Post by toskaliku on Sept 20, 2010 20:38:49 GMT -5
Slavs are not dark on average... it wouldnt make any fukin sense. They come from a frigid environment. The only dark Russians and Slavs I have come across are either from the Caucasus, and probably assimilated locals, from near the areas of Uzbekistan, near the Afghans or from Bulgaria and Med places, such as numerous Croats, Bosnians and Serbs...
But the very idea that Slavs could be short and dark is a complete contradiction of the fact that their origins lie as a northern European people, closely tied to the Germans and the Baltics...
Your post is nothing more than instigation. On average, Slavs are far more light than Albanians because of this. And due to the Med in our culture I would say there is more variety in height.
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 20, 2010 20:44:41 GMT -5
i said serbs are darker than average. have you met serbs in real life. they look like east indians. what does frigid mean you moronic vlacho. frigid environment you can find also in mongolia. by no means they have fair skin.
what does russia have to do with this. russia is a large country bordering middle east up to northern europe. what exactly is your point?
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 20, 2010 20:50:11 GMT -5
and dinaric is by no means a compliment. some of the fugliest people in the balkans are dinaric. take a look at the inbred above along with those serb retards... i dont include kosovars (as kosovars are nordic and celtic) and the best of dinarics (they are croats).
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 20, 2010 22:55:25 GMT -5
"Btw, better divorced than looking like gypsy like you. Must be very frustrating watching your face with horror in the mirror every morning."
I thank god everyday when l look at myself in the mirror and say:
1) I look indo-european 2) My ancestry is indo-european
It must be painfull Ruse that your Turanid ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 21, 2010 0:22:23 GMT -5
The guy in the video is well over 2m, perhaps 2.10, you're saying 1/5 Serbs in Trebinje are well over 2 metres? LOL!!! Ive been in Montenegro where arguably the tallest Serbs live, I dont recall any seven footer to be honest or too many people being 2m ... of course they exist, but nowhere to the extent you're implying. Ive also been to Makarska, Dubrovnik and Neum, all close to Trebinje and arguably of the same genetic stock as that town; during my stay in those towns I saw only one guy who was perhaps 2.10, and that was in makarska. Youre such a tool and a liar .. either that or a dwarf with difficulties estimating heights. haha. If he has Serb blood, it would be his grandpa who f**ked a Serb grandma, in Drenica intermarriages with Serbs can be counted on fingers, and in all cases I recall the man was Albanian. Dont even know what youre implying here. You need to be more explicit .. are you seriously lecturing ME on my own homeregion? Lolz! Are you implying Serbs are inbreds bcs they all look alike or what? And what linguistic variation, what do you know of my language to make such a conclusion? LMAO Pokemon!!!! he "estimated" height from youtube!! LMAO Chechen, that made me laugh! dont expect me to answer to the rest of your rant, cause i didn't read it! PS if i played for a local albo team here in Athens, i should play as a ... forward... or center... the rest are all well below 175.
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 21, 2010 1:14:43 GMT -5
first of all exaggerated figure. second of all you are greek. comparing us with your kind is like comparing germans with mexican. are you serious??? lol
dude this is a lost cause for you
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 21, 2010 1:41:48 GMT -5
first of all exaggerated figure. second of all you are greek. comparing us with your kind is like comparing germans with mexican. are you serious??? lol dude this is a lost cause for you Dudes, the moment you try just a little bit to accept the reality, your life instantly will become prettier and more fun. Fact is here in Athens, i dont remember having seen *any* albo well above 190cm. Here are the albanian giants in Greece: ;D ;D ;D
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 21, 2010 2:24:05 GMT -5
like i said a lost cause. you have to post selected videos. for which i am proven right. there can never be a comparison of albanians with greeks. sort of like comparing germans with mexicanos. the sooner you accept reality, the better. maybe you wont die in vain.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 21, 2010 2:32:14 GMT -5
Not selected at all. Dude its the first youtube i found with an albo demonstration. i was in such a hurry to answer to you!
ps this usa/mexican parallelism is just noise. Albos *are* shorter than the greeks. At least here in Athens.
If in some remote places in yugoslavia, there are Serbs/Slavs that were converted to Albs during the otoman rule, that, i am in no position to know. And you shouldn't base whole theories on top of a few assimilated slavs.
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 21, 2010 2:35:29 GMT -5
and it was not a very good example. albs are taller than greeks. that's general knowledge... even on this forum as an example. (now all of a sudden we are serbs...lol). my theory of those people being vlach = true whereas your theory is just garbage.
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Post by drinus123 on Sept 21, 2010 2:53:11 GMT -5
I thank god everyday when l look at myself in the mirror and say: 1) I look indo-european 2) My ancestry is indo-european It must be painfull Ruse that your Turanid ;D i think ive seen your photo. you look like they dropped a bottle of olive oil on your face. you can be proud. confidence is a good thing but not when it becomes delusional. lol...
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Post by andromeda on Sept 21, 2010 3:10:26 GMT -5
Not selected at all. Dude its the first youtube i found with an albo demonstration. i was in such a hurry to answer to you! ps this usa/mexican parallelism is just noise. Albos *are* shorter than the greeks. At least here in Athens. If in some remote places in yugoslavia, there are Serbs/Slavs that were converted to Albs during the otoman rule, that, i am in no position to know. And you shouldn't base whole theories on top of a few assimilated slavs. According to the more extreme ends of radical greater Serbian theory, most Kosovar Albanians are also Serbs along with northern Albania ( stara srpska zemlja or so we're told) who were part of the infamous and numerous 'Catholic Serb nation' that converted to Islam and then into Albanians. The rest of the Albanians would be Chechen imports or something.
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Post by andromeda on Sept 21, 2010 3:13:15 GMT -5
and it was not a very good example. albs are taller than greeks. that's general knowledge... even on this forum as an example. (now all of a sudden we are serbs...lol). my theory of those people being vlach = true whereas your theory is just garbage. Oh you didn't know you're Serb? Well , welcome to the club of millions that do not know either. Remember Cedomire moj , tamo gdje je srpsko groblje , tamo je Srbija. If you don't understand that then ask pyrros.
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 21, 2010 3:28:31 GMT -5
"tall albo" is similar joke with the "albanian tourist" and "albanian civilization"...
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