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Post by atdhetari on Dec 17, 2010 13:12:33 GMT -5
born again albanian!
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Post by rex362 on Dec 17, 2010 13:26:45 GMT -5
Hold that nose closed Karta
........and welcome home to the clan once again ....
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Post by atdhetari on Dec 17, 2010 13:35:48 GMT -5
you're one of us now, Alas! the lost sheep has returned! Rejoice!
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Post by rex362 on Dec 17, 2010 13:38:58 GMT -5
Opa !
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Post by rex362 on Dec 17, 2010 13:53:55 GMT -5
Karta .....now that your in ....we have found you a nice Pelasgian wife
she makes great bread
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Post by terroreign on Dec 17, 2010 19:47:05 GMT -5
Karta isn't a Sheep-tar! ^Siblings
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Post by rex362 on Dec 17, 2010 20:11:22 GMT -5
oh you found the baptismal thingy ...??
KRRRRRRK
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 17, 2010 21:09:34 GMT -5
What is a Sheep-tar?
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 18, 2010 1:54:16 GMT -5
Krivośanin you make me laugh thanks !! ;D it's a albino black sheep !!
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Post by Hellenas on Dec 18, 2010 5:37:47 GMT -5
Arvanites anthropologically Hellenes.In anthropological studies of Theodoros K. Pizziou, the Aegean population Arvanites are different morphologically and to their characters compared with the Albanians. It states: "The examination of these groups (Arvanitofonon), one in Messenia, one and two in Argolis Korinthia showed that in no way stand out from the total population of the Peloponnese or from neighboring groups. In any of the ninety maps features designed not resemble each other more than with their neighboring geographical groups. Also, the statistical dendrogrammata, simultaneous comparison of several features not arvanitofones groups separated from the rest of the Peloponnese. This research shows that the Arvanites were only Hellenes.As you can see to this video, most of Arvanites are of Mediterranean racial stock and this have been connected to Hellenes as well. www.an-attiki.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=787&Itemid=103
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2010 18:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2010 18:22:01 GMT -5
opa !
Ti ie ljoulea e malit ti ie ljoulea e avlis bukuria e sstepise ea te vemi ne sstepi iot em it at u ede ti ...ea te vemi atie ce do isste nie loule tse te do ne parathure ce vezdon isst aio loulia tse kendon Ne trapez let vei it ate ti iot eme ede it ate te te ver te te martoine po ce diale te kerkoine me kerkoi aio ioteme nde stepi te vi ou preme hape nani derene ne ta pime verene ate verene papare hape nani moi manare moi e bukura katare..........
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2010 18:25:44 GMT -5
so, nearly 200 years of separate history; participation of orthodox arvanites in the greek revolution; their struggle against ottoman empire, part of which were muslim arvanites too, has apparently caused irreparable damage to the relations between orthodox and muslim brothers. religious affiliation unfortunately has been a main determining factor in the creation of national identities and separation of brothers. however, in the 21st century, in the age of enlightenment, let's hope that we will be able to find a common ground for cooperation, understanding and mutual respect.
No church or mosque can hold hostage the soul of a true Albanian. that soul belongs to his noble ancient cultural codes, such as Besa, which predate monotheistic religion and even transcend it.
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 20, 2010 18:26:35 GMT -5
OPA!!!
I'll drink to that!
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 20, 2010 18:56:44 GMT -5
What you say requires that there had ever been relations between orthodox and muslim albanophones. But there havent. There havent even been any relations between orthodox albanophones of Epirus (the historical regions) and lets say the Peloponnese. There was no albanian consciousness at all...it developed 1912 and little before that. When the Arvanites fought for an independent Greek state there did even not come into their mind that they could be sth different from the grecophone orthodox people. They felt Greek...they couldnt imagine that their language spoken at home can be the language of a seperate ethnicity or even nationality.
Albanophones were some kind of "stem cells" we would say in biology which were able to become Greek...Turkish...or...if the West wanted to...an own people...albanian. Thats when you were created.
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 20, 2010 18:59:20 GMT -5
The reason why you were like that is btw...because albanophones were uneducated and backward people usually. Albanian culture can be called a subculture...at best...I would even say you had no culture at all. I dont mean that as an insult. Im just lacking more diplomatic terms.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2010 19:26:22 GMT -5
oh great philosopher of Kastoria Then explain to me why the Arberesh of Italy that are divided by sea still keep their language, codes and culture? Why don't they hate us brothers across the sea the way Arvanites do? or is it bcs they have ones like you drilling your philosophy to them or is Italy doing it all wrong maybe ??
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2010 19:31:34 GMT -5
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 20, 2010 19:36:16 GMT -5
I believe the Arberesh went much later to Italy... and Italy has a huge population compared to Greece... some things seem to just slip by... without anyone noticing... Plus Greeks have a greater sense of nationality than the Italians.... after all there were no Italians before 1200 ad..... ;D
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2010 19:44:11 GMT -5
yes Great Philosopher of Chios
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