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Post by terroreign on Jan 8, 2011 6:57:13 GMT -5
Since we have been talking about this on the "Pictures of Montenegrins" thread, I'll go ahead and post pictures of the Ossetians. A people who have been largely untouched by Arab and Ottoman conquest, and widely seen as the heirs to the Sarmatian people. They call themselves "Iron" (Aryan), which means 'Noble'. Georgians call them "Osebi" which in Georgians means "Alan" Russians call them "Jas", which is believed to be derived from the Sarmatian tribe Lazyges. Like the Serbs, they use Cyrillic script, are mainly Orthodox Christians, and celebrate Saints like Gods, blatantly mixing Pagan tradition and Christianity. Notice the similarities to Herzegovinian & Montenegrin dress Look I found Ratko ;D The Ossetian Radovan Karadzic, Eduard Kokoity Wtf is that a Yugo?? ;D Puca u nebo, jer je nebeski narod ;D Hm, he's wearing a Subara It's like looking at the same people, and these are half-way across the continent.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 8, 2011 9:07:30 GMT -5
the right guy is an albo... small eyes, big dumbo ears, weird triangular head.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 8, 2011 9:37:07 GMT -5
You're exaggerating as usual Krivo but these people can easily be Balkanians. Well there are differences but they look like some kind of cousins.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 8, 2011 9:51:29 GMT -5
Miss Ossetia...
Not as pretty as ours but not bad still. Do we bear more resemblance to these or Greeks? These imo easily. A Georgian thread would be good too. Many a Georgian looks at home in the Balkans also.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 8, 2011 10:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 8, 2011 13:25:28 GMT -5
Miss Ossetia... Not as pretty as ours but not bad still. Do we bear more resemblance to these or Greeks? These imo easily. A Georgian thread would be good too. Many a Georgian looks at home in the Balkans also. actually there used to be alot of greeks over there lol , my moms family originates from sukhumi but thats abkazia but whats the difference?
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 8, 2011 14:47:51 GMT -5
There is a difference between Dinaric and Armenoid. See the differences between the Montenegrin girls thread and the poor excuse for beauty queens video.
I remember seeing on youtube an Ossetian volunteer with Serb forces who went to Kosova and ended up getting his eye shot out by an Albanian sniper. ;D
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Post by terroreign on Jan 8, 2011 15:34:25 GMT -5
There is a difference between Dinaric and Armenoid. See the differences between the Montenegrin girls thread and the poor excuse for beauty queens video. I remember seeing on youtube an Ossetian volunteer with Serb forces who went to Kosova and ended up getting his eye shot out by an Albanian sniper. ;D Obviously you have yet to learn what an Armenoid is. These people for the most part are "Dinaroid". Abkazians are Caucasians, in the same family as the Georgians and Chechens. They're more Armenoid looking shall we say. Georgians much less imo. Mostly Armenoids and distinct Caucasoids there. Maybe, but Serb is a Sarmatian word; these are Sarmatians. It really doesn't appear we changed much does it! Guess what their favorite day is?? DJURDJEVDAN jeboteee www.religioscope.com/articles/2002/028_northossetia.htm
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Post by terroreign on Jan 8, 2011 15:55:43 GMT -5
the right guy is an albo... small eyes, big dumbo ears, weird triangular head. He has some Georgian/Chechen admixture ;D
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 8, 2011 16:44:52 GMT -5
many chechens look very slavic from what ive seen
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Post by odel on Jan 8, 2011 17:00:15 GMT -5
the right guy is an albo... small eyes, big dumbo ears, weird triangular head. He has some Georgian/Chechen admixture ;D He is of the exactly same phenotype as the guy besides him and he has the same look as most of the other peoples. I don't really see anything triangular about his head. However, I doubt Patrinos should be mocking anyone's look seeing as after all he's a Greek. Greeks aren't renown for their good looks exactly. Patrinos should get rid of this ridiculous fetish he has for Albanians. Also Krivo, if you'd look up some pictures of Georgians, Chechens and other people's of the Caucasus you would have seen that they all look quite similar. And I love the way you pull everything out of your ass and how you as Arsenije said exaggerate things. An example of your exaggerations is that you say that there are similarities between Ossetian and Monte/Herce folk dress, which is not true. Apart from being folk dresses they don't look very similar. www.photomontenegro.me/2010/06/montenegrin-folk-costume/lang/en/ Compare to the first pic. This all to prove that Serbs are of Sarmatian origin, and trying to prove that the prevalent brunette pigmentation among Serbs and south-Slavs generally, is of Sarmatian and not of native-Balkan origin. This of course speaks against a lot of facts, these facts probably are not very important to you though. And if Serbs are of Sarmatian origin, why are a lot of Serbs/South-Slavs (especially those of Montenegro, Bosnia and Hercegovina, Dalmatia, Southern-Serbia) generally look Dinaric and similar to Ghegs? The Dinarid look which in fact is the most common among the Ghegs. Genetically from what I have gathered Montenegrins are not that different from Kosovars and Ghegs generally either. The only information I have is on their percentage of EM-78 but only that alone is so common among Montenegrins that this alone gives me a argument that has a good foundation.
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 8, 2011 17:07:25 GMT -5
^^ Yes and we all know Albanians are known for their beuty
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Post by odel on Jan 8, 2011 17:12:35 GMT -5
^^ Yes and we all know Albanians are known for their beuty Actually, we are known for being a good looking people.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 8, 2011 17:21:16 GMT -5
many chechens look very slavic from what ive seen Yeah, that's because the Russian Empire specifically targeted the Chechens for assimilation after their mass-conversion to Islam. In 1577 the Russians secretly set up Cossack settlements on the Terek river in Ossetia for the sole purpose to keep the Chechens in Russian sphere, away from the Ottomans who the Chechens for the most part supported. Thus heavy intermixing occured, despite this though, the original Armenoid/Caucasoid look of the Chechens is still plainly visible. This is not at all the case for the Ossetians, who were voluntary Russian allies and never saw any real Russian settlement historically. No he isn't. One on the left is Dinaroid (Nose, eyes, ect), while the right one has Armenoid features (Sharp hook nose, wide forehead, inverted eyes). It seems you took Patrinos' comment personally, and it's clouding your judgement. Yeah I mean all europeans look quite similar don't they, i mean all humans look quite similar right? We all have legs and arms right? All animals are similar.... Nothing is pulled out of nowhere, that old Serbs are Sarmatians is not a new theory bro. I didn't make up anything here, it's all authentic. And the dress isn't identical, that somehow proves everything wrong? Your desperation is killing me odel, go find another hobby because anthropology doesn't seem to suit you. You take things too personally. There are many theories on this. The theory that makes most sense to me is that Dinaroids aren't native to the Balkans, and instead are another word for Serboids; this type moved from the Caucasus/Black Sea to the Dinaric Alps between 200-600 AD. Seeing the Ossetians it's plain to see this is plausible, it's just not promoted due to political correctness.
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 8, 2011 17:21:40 GMT -5
^^ Yes and we all know Albanians are known for their beuty Actually, we are known for being a good looking people. perhaps among eachother you are
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Post by ulf on Jan 8, 2011 17:28:47 GMT -5
"Genetically from what I have gathered Montenegrins are not that different from Kosovars and Ghegs generally either."
Montenegrins close to Albanians? Where did you pulled that out?
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Post by odel on Jan 8, 2011 17:31:09 GMT -5
Actually, we are known for being a good looking people. perhaps among eachother you are No, we're known for being good looking people among pretty much all of the countries that we have some diaspora in.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 8, 2011 17:37:50 GMT -5
Whatever guys, can you please stick to the topic! Enough of this nationalistic bull, this is the anthropology subforum, not a political arena! Nor beauty contest odel!
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Jan 8, 2011 17:49:51 GMT -5
Someone is having a wet dream. lol
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Post by odel on Jan 8, 2011 17:53:49 GMT -5
"Genetically from what I have gathered Montenegrins are not that different from Kosovars and Ghegs generally either." Montenegrins close to Albanians? Where did you pulled that out? Montenegrins have quite large amounts of EM-78 or E1b1b1a, which also Albanians have large amounts of. Also Montenegrins are quite close to the Albanians in other aspects like culture and looks. But seriously, would it be that bad to be similar to the Albanians?
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