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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 7, 2011 10:23:14 GMT -5
Greek1234 he's my bud. Albanians colonists? Never!
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Post by derk on Sept 7, 2011 10:28:56 GMT -5
Hurray!
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Post by levski1914 on Apr 14, 2017 4:37:56 GMT -5
Alba Bulgarica is the medieval name of Belgrade in the latin sources. Hungarians still call it Nandorfehervar (The Bulgarian White City). Just saying...
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Post by Pyrros on Apr 15, 2017 9:10:15 GMT -5
Alba Bulgarica is the medieval name of Belgrade in the latin sources. Hungarians still call it Nandorfehervar (The Bulgarian White City). Just saying... And Sofia was named Sredica, a Serbian King is buried in Sveta Nedeljka in Sofia, IIRC. Also All Sofia region use to belong to Kosntantin Dragas. Not to mention the EKAVICA spoken in western Bulgaria..... just saying ....
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 11, 2018 15:30:12 GMT -5
this is BS, we dont acknowledge this language and do not give a chance for those people to preserve their language. Also in slav-makedonia there were no greeks. Only vlahs. (the same kind of vlahs like Branislav Nusic, born as alkiviadi Nusha somewhere in greek makedonia, who later made a career in serbia, changed his name and became a serb). Basically a Serb, father was Serbianized and his mother a biological Serb.
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Post by Sokol on Jul 11, 2018 17:54:30 GMT -5
An interesting turn of events.... www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/11/greece-to-expel-russian-diplomats-over-alleged-macedonia-interferenceGreece to expel Russian diplomats over alleged Macedonia interference
Russia accused of trying to fan opposition to deal which will weaken its influence in Balkans Four Russian diplomats will be banned from Greece after evidence revealed Russia was trying to foment opposition to a historic deal between Greece and Macedonia that is likely to pave the way for Macedonia’s Nato membership and so weaken Russian influence in the western Balkans. Greece said it would expel two Russian diplomats and ban two others. Zoran Zaev, the Macedonian prime minister, speaking at the Nato summit in Brussels, indicated he knew Russia was behind some of the protests outside his own parliament, but he said his country was not going to seek conflict. “We are a small country. We want to build a friendship with everybody. There is no alternative but Nato membership,” he said. He said countries, such as Bulgaria, managed to triple foreign direct investment after joining Nato, and he hoped it would deliver the same boost to his country. Russia, involved in a wider struggle for influence with the EU across the region, has already been accused of backing a failed coup in Montenegro in 2016. Russia said it would respond to the Greek expulsions by taking similar steps against Greek diplomats in Moscow. The expulsion of the diplomats, revealed in the Greek media on Wednesday but relayed by the Greek government to Russia on 6 July, follows evidence they were encouraging rallies to oppose the Macedonian name deal, including offering bribes to opponents of the deal. The historic naming deal, agreed on 17 June, will see the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia bow to Greek objections and change its name to Northern Macedonia. Greece had claimed the title Macedonia implied a territorial claim on the Greek province of the same name. The Greek newspaper Kathimerini named the Imperial Orthodox Palestine Society, an organisation which promotes Russian ties to Christians in the Middle East, as being among the groups trying to fan Russian influence in Greece, including in the Greek Orthodox monastic community of Mount Athos. A representative of the society denied it was involved in any alleged attempts to bribe senior Greek Orthodox clergymen, the Russian state Interfax news agency reported. In 2008 Nato agreed to invite Macedonia to join the military alliance once its name dispute was settled, and Wednesday’s Nato summit meeting in Brussels will conclude with a formal invitation to join Nato. The name has been disputed between the two countries ever since the break-up of the former Yugoslavia. “We had issued warnings to Russian authorities for some time over [the actions of] these specific four diplomats and civilians, and on Friday it was officially raised, giving them a reasonable period of a few days to leave the country,” said a Greek government source. The deal faces opposition in both Greece and in Macedonia, where a heated referendum is planned this autumn. The Macedonian opposition is trying to block the establishment of an electoral commission required to prepare for the referendum. It is also accusing leading politicians in the Macedonian government of treason for agreeing to the deal. Rejection of the deal inside Greece is, amongst others, coming from the seven MPs inside Independent Greeks (ANEL), the small rightwing nationalistic party in a governing coalition with the left wing Syriza, headed by Greece’s prime minister, Alexis Tsipras. The name issue has led to splits inside ANEL, and Russian media has been promoting the idea of a new populist party led by Dimitris Kammenos, dedicated to blocking the name change. Russia and Greece have until now maintained warm relations, with Athens one of the few countries that rejected a British request to expel diplomats in the wake of British claims of Russian involvement in the poisoning of the Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in Salisbury. But the Russian embassy in Athens has been previously accused of interfering in Greek politics following the leak of a tranche of emails in 2015.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 11, 2018 23:33:01 GMT -5
turn? ??
there is no turn. For the vlahs being anti-makedonian and anti-russian is the same thing. But some thick headed tatars dont get this.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 12, 2018 1:24:50 GMT -5
I wonder how this expulsion of diplomats will sit with the Greek church.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 12, 2018 2:21:50 GMT -5
I wonder how this expulsion of diplomats will sit with the Greek church. It will sit just fine. Because both the Vlah (pseudo-greek) church and their supposed enemies in Instabul belong to the west. Look here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Orthodox_CouncilOnly the "west-friendly" churches attended. To my disappointment Serbian church was there. Nice to see Bulgarian church had the guts to not attend.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 12, 2018 2:24:55 GMT -5
I wonder how this expulsion of diplomats will sit with the Greek church. It will sit just fine. Because both the Vlah (pseudo-greek) church and their supposed enemies in Instabul belong to the west. Look here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Orthodox_CouncilOnly the "west-friendly" churches attended. To my disappointment Serbian church was there. Nice to see Bulgarian church had the guts to not attend. The Greek church was not happy when Greece joined the EU due to the visa regulations for russian priests...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 2:45:42 GMT -5
I wonder how this expulsion of diplomats will sit with the Greek church. It will sit just fine. Because both the Vlah (pseudo-greek) church and their supposed enemies in Instabul belong to the west. Look here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Orthodox_CouncilOnly the "west-friendly" churches attended. To my disappointment Serbian church was there. Nice to see Bulgarian church had the guts to not attend. Serbia is neo-colony. Just check amount of military exercises with NATO and with Russia. On top of that Serbia has professional military and still calls ex-conscript-soldiers to military exercises for 5-15 days. Crazy shit.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 12, 2018 2:57:47 GMT -5
It will sit just fine. Because both the Vlah (pseudo-greek) church and their supposed enemies in Instabul belong to the west. Look here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Orthodox_CouncilOnly the "west-friendly" churches attended. To my disappointment Serbian church was there. Nice to see Bulgarian church had the guts to not attend. Serbia is neo-colony. Just check amount of military exercises with NATO and with Russia. On top of that Serbia has professional military and still calls ex-conscript-soldiers to military exercises for 5-15 days. Crazy shit. Which is why we need the anti-west church to influence the decisions of our leader!!!!!
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 12, 2018 3:03:20 GMT -5
It will sit just fine. Because both the Vlah (pseudo-greek) church and their supposed enemies in Instabul belong to the west. Look here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Orthodox_CouncilOnly the "west-friendly" churches attended. To my disappointment Serbian church was there. Nice to see Bulgarian church had the guts to not attend. Serbia is neo-colony. Just check amount of military exercises with NATO and with Russia. On top of that Serbia has professional military and still calls ex-conscript-soldiers to military exercises for 5-15 days. Crazy shit. Serbia is the epitome of independence compared to a real colony. You dont understand. West controls your lives. West controls our minds. There is a HUGE difference. That's why west loves us so much more than you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 3:12:26 GMT -5
Serbia is neo-colony. Just check amount of military exercises with NATO and with Russia. On top of that Serbia has professional military and still calls ex-conscript-soldiers to military exercises for 5-15 days. Crazy shit. Serbia is the epitome of independence compared to a real colony. You dont understand. West controls your lives. West controls our minds. There is a HUGE difference. That's why west loves us so much more than you. Pyrros current governments policy can be best described as (neo) fascism.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 3:18:30 GMT -5
If just check wikipedia article on fascism and disregard everything where WW2 is mentioned, this is what you get:
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war. The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.
Fits our current government perfectly.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 12, 2018 3:22:11 GMT -5
If just check wikipedia article on fascism and disregard everything where WW2 is mentioned, this is what you get:
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war. The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.
Fits our current government perfectly.
I wouldn't describe the government as ultra nationalist
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 3:30:58 GMT -5
If just check wikipedia article on fascism and disregard everything where WW2 is mentioned, this is what you get:
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war. The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.
Fits our current government perfectly.
I wouldn't describe the government as ultra nationalist It definitively is, perhaps you don't see it because the ladder for nationalism in the past 30 years was higher, but these guys are not far behind. If they didn't need to justify the way they act in front of the world, and if we didn't had wars during 90's, it would be much more visible.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 12, 2018 3:45:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't describe the government as ultra nationalist It definitively is, perhaps you don't see it because the ladder for nationalism in the past 30 years was higher, but these guys are not far behind. If they didn't need to justify the way they act in front of the world, and if we didn't had wars during 90's, it would be much more visible. 1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups Intense nationalism was one of the causes of the war.Is recognising Kosovo really Serbian nationalism???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 3:53:34 GMT -5
It definitively is, perhaps you don't see it because the ladder for nationalism in the past 30 years was higher, but these guys are not far behind. If they didn't need to justify the way they act in front of the world, and if we didn't had wars during 90's, it would be much more visible. 1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups Intense nationalism was one of the causes of the war.Is recognising Kosovo really Serbian nationalism??? Its due to the fact that they can't do nothing about it because Serbia has weak prestige, weak economy, weak industry etc. In the worldwide political scale they are powerless, but internally they like power so much that they will occasionally break their integral policy against their own people. All the frustration they accumulated due to these failures on the global political level they cancel out by doing wrong things against the citizens of our country. If they can't honor what they promised in election campaigns the only right way is to move away from politics and let someone else to try to do something good.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 12, 2018 4:36:33 GMT -5
1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups Intense nationalism was one of the causes of the war.Is recognising Kosovo really Serbian nationalism??? Its due to the fact that they can't do nothing about it because Serbia has weak prestige, weak economy, weak industry etc. In the worldwide political scale they are powerless, but internally they like power so much that they will occasionally break their integral policy against their own people. All the frustration they accumulated due to these failures on the global political level they cancel out by doing wrong things against the citizens of our country. If they can't honor what they promised in election campaigns the only right way is to move away from politics and let someone else to try to do something good. We should scrap the current presidency
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