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Post by Pyrros on Jul 14, 2018 15:24:26 GMT -5
@ulf : sorry bro, but dont watch too much history channel. Byzantine empire did not kill Greek spirit, because Byzantine empire didn't exist. All along it was called ROMAN empire. Now Greeks weren't killed by any church. Greeks were killed by the Germans in 200-400 AD. When Slavs came in southern Greece they found empty space. That's why the 1000 SLAVIC toponyms in SOUTH GREECE.
@branislav bro, Slavs did no raids against any Byzantine empire bro. THEY WERE THE EASTERN (roman) EMPIRE. Everything was SLAVIC. The term "byzantine" was a later german hoax .
Now the value of a culture if we adopt smth like Dostojevski's formula = (actual value) / (harm done to others).
By this formula the value of the (christian/anti-christian/pagan/anti-pagan) west is ZERO.
Guys if you spent 1/10 of the time you spend on studying anti-Slav cultures on your own FANTASTIC culture, maybe things would be better?
Because not much is known about our history/culture due to the fact that not that many ancient authors wrote or knew about us. also Greek was the official language of the byzantine empire, and the slavic toponyms in southern greece are due to the raids done by slavs against the Eastern roman empire.
no raids at all. how can you raid an empty land?
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 14, 2018 15:27:50 GMT -5
Because not much is known about our history/culture due to the fact that not that many ancient authors wrote or knew about us. also Greek was the official language of the byzantine empire, and the slavic toponyms in southern greece are due to the raids done by slavs against the Eastern roman empire.
no raids at all. how can you raid an empty land?
It was raided.....
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 14, 2018 15:31:25 GMT -5
Dam = dom(Serbian/Macedonian/Russian), vidhava = vidova(Russian)/vdovica(Macedonian)/udovica(Serbian), agnis = oganj, catvaras = cetvorica, navas = nov, asti = jeste ....... and many more Sanskrit - Serbian (English) Agan - oganj (fire); bagas - bog (god); brath - brat (brather); bhala - bela (white); budh - buđenja(awaken); chata - ceta (platoon); chatvaari - četvrti (fourth) (four) deti - dete (child); div - div (grand); dhr - drží (carry) dina - dan (day); dasha - deset (ten); dama - dom (home); dvi - dva (two); girya - gora (mountain); grad - grad (city); iskra - iskra (spark); kada - kada (when); kuta - Kuća (house); lip - lep (pretty); lot - ljut (angry); laghi - laki, lagan (light); ljubhva - ljubav (love); matr - mater (mother); mala - mali (little); more - more (sea); mil - mili (dear); muush - miš (mouse); nabas - nebo (sky); nava - novi (new); naham - nisam (I am not); paraha - prah (dust); prati - protiv (against); pancha -pet (five); pena - pena (bubbles); rabh - rob (slave); rosa - rosa (dune); sa - so (salt); sila - sila (might,force); sas/ShaTa - šest(six); stan - stan (lives there); sabha - soba (room); stala - stol/astal (table); tata - tata (dad); ta - taj (that person); tvar - stvar (thing); trassti - tresti (shake); trang - trag (track); tamas - tama (dark); tri - tri (three); triydosa - trinaest (thirteen); tada - tada (then); vrt - vrt (garden); vicur - večer (evening); vi - vi (you); vas - vas (you); vatara - vatra (fire); viva - živa (alive) Words relating to family relations that are identical: tata (dad), nana (granny), brat (brother), sestra (sister), strina (aunt), svekar (father in law), svekrva (mother in law), dever (brother in law), kum (god father), (could also be latin-derived) svastika (sister in law) prija (son in law's mother) I have no idea why this is though may someone please enlighten me, I get that they both have a proto-indo european connection, but the similarities are extra-ordinary,
this is gold.... all lead to my theory...
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 14, 2018 15:31:57 GMT -5
no raids at all. how can you raid an empty land?
It was raided.....
slavs were the ppl of peace.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 14, 2018 15:33:15 GMT -5
slavs were the ppl of peace.
The language Constantine uses is rather straightforward High Medieval Greek, somewhat more elaborate than that of the Canonic Gospels, and easily comprehensible to an educated modern Greek.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Administrando_ImperioGreek was the official language of the byzantine empire
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 14, 2018 15:35:10 GMT -5
I have no idea why this is though may someone please enlighten me, I get that they both have a proto-indo european connection, but the similarities are extra-ordinary,
God created Slavic language. And then humans. Slavs. Maybe Indians were the first subcategory.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 14, 2018 15:36:37 GMT -5
slavs were the ppl of peace.
The language Constantine uses is rather straightforward High Medieval Greek, somewhat more elaborate than that of the Canonic Gospels, and easily comprehensible to an educated modern Greek.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Administrando_ImperioGreek was the official language of the byzantine empire
This has nothing to do with Greece. This was a JEWISH policy applied to Asia Minor. Greece is 101% IRRELEVANT with all this. I think I explained it more than once.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 14, 2018 15:39:11 GMT -5
The language Constantine uses is rather straightforward High Medieval Greek, somewhat more elaborate than that of the Canonic Gospels, and easily comprehensible to an educated modern Greek.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Administrando_ImperioGreek was the official language of the byzantine empire
This has nothing to do with Greece. This was a JEWISH policy applied to Asia Minor. Greece is 101% IRRELEVANT with all this. I think I explained it more than once.
So where did greeks come from according to your theory?
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 14, 2018 22:46:03 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Greece. This was a JEWISH policy applied to Asia Minor. Greece is 101% IRRELEVANT with all this. I think I explained it more than once.
So where did greeks come from according to your theory?
what greeks? I have explained those things 100 times already.
lets go once again :
1) True Greeks (10%) live in Cyprus, Rhodes, Crete, Santorini (the non-athens ppl I mean), Ios, Naxos, Monemvasia 2) VlahAlbsGreeks (70%) in the rest of Greece up to Makedonia, Makedonia is more mixed
3) Some semi-true Greeks - pontians- (10%) live in greek part of Makedonia (rest of habitants are Slavs (10%))
Todays Greeks - the vlahalbsgreeks - came to Greece in the same manner, process and also timing as the albs. And even before. De-slavization of Greece started at about 850 AD. Read up Peter Charanis.
the category 2) consists of
1) Vlahs of Asian origin 2) Albs of Asian origin 3) some Greeks (today western peloponese) of south Italian origin
According to Novi Pazar, the route of the albs from Asia passed via south italy, so there certainly is a connection here.
The emerge of both Nations albo and neo-greek is extremely similar.
1913 : albo state invented 1913 : the west takes Epir from Turkey
1821 : fake revolution against Turks(along about 40 similar revolutions of the same type in Latin America) -> 9 years -> 1830 : recognition of the Greek state by all Europe
1999 : fake revolution of the kosovo albs against Serbia -> 9 years -> 2008 : recognition of the albo kosovo state by all Europe
Now compare how many years did it take for the SAXANS to recognize Serbia or Bulgaria in 19th century (from 1804 -> 1880)
Do I need to say more?
The common denominator in both processes is this one : SLAVIC, and also has an ANTI prefix. The reason those two nations were created : Albs and Vlahalbs was this : to be anti-SLAVIC.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 15, 2018 0:51:14 GMT -5
So where did greeks come from according to your theory?
what greeks? I have explained those things 100 times already.
lets go once again :
1) True Greeks (10%) live in Cyprus, Rhodes, Crete, Santorini (the non-athens ppl I mean), Ios, Naxos, Monemvasia 2) VlahAlbsGreeks (70%) in the rest of Greece up to Makedonia, Makedonia is more mixed
3) Some semi-true Greeks - pontians- (10%) live in greek part of Makedonia (rest of habitants are Slavs (10%))
Todays Greeks - the vlahalbsgreeks - came to Greece in the same manner, process and also timing as the albs. And even before. De-slavization of Greece started at about 850 AD. Read up Peter Charanis.
the category 2) consists of
1) Vlahs of Asian origin 2) Albs of Asian origin 3) some Greeks (today western peloponese) of south Italian origin
According to Novi Pazar, the route of the albs from Asia passed via south italy, so there certainly is a connection here.
The emerge of both Nations albo and neo-greek is extremely similar.
1913 : albo state invented 1913 : the west takes Epir from Turkey
1821 : fake revolution against Turks(along about 40 similar revolutions of the same type in Latin America) -> 9 years -> 1830 : recognition of the Greek state by all Europe
1999 : fake revolution of the kosovo albs against Serbia -> 9 years -> 2008 : recognition of the albo kosovo state by all Europe
Now compare how many years did it take for the SAXANS to recognize Serbia or Bulgaria in 19th century (from 1804 -> 1880)
Do I need to say more?
The common denominator in both processes is this one : SLAVIC, and also has an ANTI prefix. The reason those two nations were created : Albs and Vlahalbs was this : to be anti-SLAVIC.
The Byzantine Greeks (or Byzantines) were the Greek or Hellenized people of the Byzantine Empire (or Eastern Roman Empire) during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages who spoke medieval Greek and were Orthodox Christians. They were the main population of Byzantium, especially inhabiting the lands of Constantinople, Asia Minor (modern Turkey), the Aegean islands, Cyprus, and portions of the southern Balkans with large minorities
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 29, 2018 3:05:10 GMT -5
^ King Pyrro is right, De-Slavicisation did happen, some Slavs converted, liquidated or fled. The Peleponesus was known as More-a prior to being renamed and right up to the 14th cent the Slavs of the Peleponesus were bilingual in Slavic and Greek!
For Pyrro:
The Shqipetars do have ARMENIAN LEXICONS in their language, this cannot be without them having ORIGINATED from the Caucasus. ARMENIANS were a powerful kingdom in that region in one point in time there. The Shqiptar-Albs were saved by the Arabs during the Khazarian Arab war during the 9th cent. Arabs create two colonies of Shqiptar-Albs: one within Syria and within a short period disappear into the Syrian population and a second Shqiptar colony along the Red Sea (as a cattle herd people) couldn't survive.....Arabs of their part of Sicily needed to increase the Islamic population decide to re-settle these Caucasus people to Sicily from Red Sea! Eastern Romans used these Shqiptars later against their war with Serbia.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 29, 2018 3:31:05 GMT -5
and many more Sanskrit - Serbian (English) Agan - oganj (fire); bagas - bog (god); brath - brat (brather); bhala - bela (white); budh - buđenja(awaken); chata - ceta (platoon); chatvaari - četvrti (fourth) (four) deti - dete (child); div - div (grand); dhr - drží (carry) dina - dan (day); dasha - deset (ten); dama - dom (home); dvi - dva (two); girya - gora (mountain); grad - grad (city); iskra - iskra (spark); kada - kada (when); kuta - Kuća (house); lip - lep (pretty); lot - ljut (angry); laghi - laki, lagan (light); ljubhva - ljubav (love); matr - mater (mother); mala - mali (little); more - more (sea); mil - mili (dear); muush - miš (mouse); nabas - nebo (sky); nava - novi (new); naham - nisam (I am not); paraha - prah (dust); prati - protiv (against); pancha -pet (five); pena - pena (bubbles); rabh - rob (slave); rosa - rosa (dune); sa - so (salt); sila - sila (might,force); sas/ShaTa - šest(six); stan - stan (lives there); sabha - soba (room); stala - stol/astal (table); tata - tata (dad); ta - taj (that person); tvar - stvar (thing); trassti - tresti (shake); trang - trag (track); tamas - tama (dark); tri - tri (three); triydosa - trinaest (thirteen); tada - tada (then); vrt - vrt (garden); vicur - večer (evening); vi - vi (you); vas - vas (you); vatara - vatra (fire); viva - živa (alive) Words relating to family relations that are identical: tata (dad), nana (granny), brat (brother), sestra (sister), strina (aunt), svekar (father in law), svekrva (mother in law), dever (brother in law), kum (god father), (could also be latin-derived) svastika (sister in law) prija (son in law's mother) I have no idea why this is though may someone please enlighten me, I get that they both have a proto-indo european connection, but the similarities are extra-ordinary,
this is gold.... all lead to my theory...
Even the word "Chetnik" is derived from the Sanskrit "cakra"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 4:49:54 GMT -5
No, not at all. Četnik is derived from word četa which means company.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 29, 2018 5:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 13:29:16 GMT -5
I highly doubt the legitimacy of that information, as citizens of Ottoman Empire and Turkic people in general are not of Indo-European origins.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 29, 2018 13:37:41 GMT -5
I highly doubt the legitimacy of that information, as citizens of Ottoman Empire and Turkic people in general are not of Indo-European origins. Anatolian Turks have lots of indo-european loanwords in their language, half of the "Turkish" loanwords in the Balkan languages are in fact from Persian,Arabic and Sanskrit.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 30, 2018 4:03:42 GMT -5
^ many Iranics can understand Turkish as Turkish has heaps of Persian loanwords. Turkish has been semi de-mongolianised by Persian.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 30, 2018 4:51:37 GMT -5
^ many Iranics can understand Turkish as Turkish has heaps of Persian loanwords. Turkish has been semi de-mongolianised by Persian. Persians = Slavs
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 30, 2018 5:16:41 GMT -5
^ many Iranics can understand Turkish as Turkish has heaps of Persian loanwords. Turkish has been semi de-mongolianised by Persian. Sanskrit in Serbian = Skriveni San = Hidden dream
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