Sokol
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Post by Sokol on Oct 4, 2011 22:29:55 GMT -5
"shqiptar" is fine, albanian is fine also. I thought you were using "siptar" and that's why I jumped you. If that was not your intention, then I am not above apologizing for what I thought you said which you did not mean. Obviously, your experience with religion is different from mine. I certainly don't see many muslims but I am sure they are out there. As for their desires, spoken or spoken, to bring about some caliphate in Albania, that will never happen and I would fight that myself. I am willing to respect their delusions, but I prefer would stand up for my freedoms. Also, I don't find it sincere to cast Albania as a majority muslim country that wants to, en masse, to bring about some hyper caliphate. I think when people say that, they want to foster an image of Albania and Albanians as a "danger", the outsiders and the "others" of Europe. I will always speak up against this. i must admit, it would certainly be alot easier if albania and the albanians were not muslims.
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Post by uz on Oct 4, 2011 23:19:48 GMT -5
The christian albs in Kosovo were known for being relatively peaceful. If you want to blame someone blame the turks, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 2:18:29 GMT -5
Ah, UZ, noble-souled and idealistic, as always, trying to establish agreement, harmony, trying to banish the shadow of the ego but caught up in nationalistic gears. The subtle irony. Tribal Ego.
Yes, the Turks fucked us all over. Denied our destiny. But like any dysfunctional family, our problems run deep, deeper.
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 5, 2011 2:21:50 GMT -5
It's not really them being Muslim that's the problem, it's them not adopting a modern attitude and way of thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 2:43:12 GMT -5
Everybody has their own problem with us. For some, like chentovist, the main problem is that Albanians are muslims, for you, it is that we are backwards and primitive, for Serbs it is that we stole Kosova like the fucking Grinch, for Greeks we are just mountain turks with our eyes on Epirus and Chameria,... so many fantasies and Albanians have to fulfill them all.
A man or a people can only do their best what they have. None can do better than that.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 5, 2011 6:01:39 GMT -5
"shqiptar" is fine, albanian is fine also. I thought you were using "siptar" and that's why I jumped you. If that was not your intention, then I am not above apologizing for what I thought you said which you did not mean. Obviously, your experience with religion is different from mine. I certainly don't see many muslims but I am sure they are out there. As for their desires, spoken or spoken, to bring about some caliphate in Albania, that will never happen and I would fight that myself. I am willing to respect their delusions, but I prefer would stand up for my freedoms. Also, I don't find it sincere to cast Albania as a majority muslim country that wants to, en masse, to bring about some hyper caliphate. I think when people say that, they want to foster an image of Albania and Albanians as a "danger", the outsiders and the "others" of Europe. I will always speak up against this. i must admit, it would certainly be alot easier if albania and the albanians were not muslims.
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Post by malkocoglu on Oct 19, 2011 17:08:32 GMT -5
I think Europe must do something for Cyprus problem not Greece or Turkey only. However Europe has many problems to solve also inside
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 20, 2011 7:55:18 GMT -5
The problem is already there in Cyprus. They bombed it and the Turks took their part.
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Post by derk on Oct 20, 2011 15:21:12 GMT -5
^things are getting steamy ;D
,Who will decimate the other?
Final Showdown: Malkocoglu vs Missy
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Post by superalbo on Oct 23, 2011 9:47:36 GMT -5
Turkey is flying its planes and sailing its warships over Greek land and water and nothing can be done about that, Imagine if the Turks waged a full scale war against Greece especially at the deep centre of the Greek economic crisis.... your ass would be finished easily!
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 23, 2011 9:52:28 GMT -5
Turkey is flying its planes and sailing its warships over Greek land and water and nothing can be done about that, Imagine if the Turks waged a full scale war against Greece especially at the deep centre of the Greek economic crisis.... your ass would be finished easily! I thought Albanians hated Turks because they're Muslim and they started from Central Asia Oh wait! Albanians are Muslims and they started from the Caucasus MY BAD!
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Post by uz on Oct 23, 2011 17:17:48 GMT -5
Turkey is not going to invade the Balkans are you all mad? In a decade or so W. Europe will have wayyy more problems with the muslims than the Balkans.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2011 17:57:59 GMT -5
^Don't discount the possibility of it happening. There is more hate between us than ever. It's a good time for turkey to use us as pawns. As far as western europe, what do you expect? They're pussies.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2011 18:03:01 GMT -5
^^It wouldn't be a military invasion. But they will just become another influential, political player in the region toying with us. Sort of like the west and Russia.
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Post by uz on Oct 23, 2011 18:06:57 GMT -5
I don't expect much from, I expect way more from EU/NATO. This is the s**t I'm talking about Shqipni, your "allies" are not really allies, they use K-albs for a reason to be present in our lands and to stir s**t. Also, EU and NATO would be perfect to cordinate the "turkey" inlfuence. This is what Serbs have been fighting against the past 20+ years.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2011 18:12:20 GMT -5
"shqiptar" is fine, albanian is fine also. I thought you were using "siptar" and that's why I jumped you. If that was not your intention, then I am not above apologizing for what I thought you said which you did not mean. Obviously, your experience with religion is different from mine. I certainly don't see many muslims but I am sure they are out there. As for their desires, spoken or spoken, to bring about some caliphate in Albania, that will never happen and I would fight that myself. I am willing to respect their delusions, but I prefer would stand up for my freedoms. Also, I don't find it sincere to cast Albania as a majority muslim country that wants to, en masse, to bring about some hyper caliphate. I think when people say that, they want to foster an image of Albania and Albanians as a "danger", the outsiders and the "others" of Europe. I will always speak up against this. i must admit, it would certainly be alot easier if albania and the albanians were not muslims. Says the turkish nut hugging christian crusader. (Scratching my head).
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2011 18:23:16 GMT -5
I don't expect much from, I expect way more from EU/NATO. This is the s**t I'm talking about Shqipni, your "allies" are not really allies, they use K-albs for a reason to be present in our lands and to stir s**t. Also, EU and NATO would be perfect to cordinate the "turkey" inlfuence. This is what Serbs have been fighting against the past 20+ years. Thats not what the serbs have been fighting against. Serbian policy is what ultimately led to todays situation. I appreciate the US actions because a guerrilla army could only handle the serbian military for so long. But I have been to Kosova three times and just don't like seeing all the foreigners, especially the jigs, roaming around. You guys know Kosova is lost and are just hoping to at least get back the northern sliver. I personally would trade it for Presheva valley in a heartbeat. I don't have much knowledge on trepça but I think it would be worth the sacrifice.
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Post by uz on Oct 23, 2011 18:33:25 GMT -5
I don't expect much from, I expect way more from EU/NATO. This is the s**t I'm talking about Shqipni, your "allies" are not really allies, they use K-albs for a reason to be present in our lands and to stir s**t. Also, EU and NATO would be perfect to cordinate the "turkey" inlfuence. This is what Serbs have been fighting against the past 20+ years. Thats not what the serbs have been fighting against. Serbian policy is what ultimately led to todays situation. I appreciate the US actions because a guerrilla army could only handle the serbian military for so long. But I have been to Kosova three times and just don't like seeing all the foreigners, especially the jigs, roaming around. You guys know Kosova is lost and are just hoping to at least get back the northern sliver. I personally would trade it for Presheva valley in a heartbeat. I don't have much knowledge on trepça but I think it would be worth the sacrifice. Of course you appreciate their actions, this is not what I'm saying, but ok. Albs, Cros, and now Boslims have no choice but to think Serbs are the cause of this instability, the moment their glance gets taken off Serbs they will finally start questioning their own actions and really see the mess their in. This Islam-extremist phenomenon now happening in Europe is b/c of the course of actions the EU took when the kettle was really hot (the 90's). Serbs never intended to "eliminate" the muslims from the Balkans (each side had casualties), Serbs wanted to eliminate the Jihadists and Mujahadeen the USA flew in from Saudi. s**t went haywire when they landed.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2011 18:40:47 GMT -5
^I know no country has more tricks up its sleeve than the US. But to say they brought in mujahadeen? Haha. I believe those mujahadeen were welcomed with open arms in Bosnia, but not so much in Kosova.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 23, 2011 18:45:40 GMT -5
They made the Bosnians more radical though. Mujahadeen are the extremes
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