I think there is a very good posibility that actually serbs were from ancient dacians - remember that a large part of ex-Yugoslavia was called "Diocesse of Dacia" during the time was occupied by Roman Empire.I do not think all dacians had exactly same language,but various dialects.
In Romania,no much tests of Y DNA were made.
Here is a test from romanians from Buhusi and Neamt,which shows on Y DNA these romanians are clustering between croats and serbs (these romanians are from ancient dacians,Roman Empire never conquered this zone):
deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=981561349&dok_var=d1&dok_ext=pdf&filename=981561349.pdfIn romanian language beside a lot of weird resemblance on gramatics with serbo-croatian and bulgarian there are at least 20% of the words of slavic origin,if not more.
Sure most of the words in romanian now are from latin but I think in old romanian not that many were from latin (maybe it was like 60% latin or 50% from latin).A lot were taken because romanian boyars studied in Paris and they took a lot of french words,to make our language more french-like.
But there are words which are very basic which are same in romanian,serbian,croatian:
tata romanian meaning father in romanian - tata/тата in croatian/serbian
(same pronunciation)
maica,how people from romania especially one from country are calling their mother - majka in serbo-croatian and also in bulgarian,pronunciantions is exactly same in both language
Good now if the theory with the slavs that came from somewhere in 6th century and attacked Byzantin Empire is true,how come is exactly same words for mother and father in romanian and serbo-croatian?I think the so called "slavs" attack was in fact the attack of free dacians/romanians from Romania/Dacia allied with bulgars,which were some kind of warrior tribe.
They attacked Byzatine Empire because guess serbians,montenegrins asked them to help them - or no,no ideea what happened there.
It seems very weird that not long after this croatians came there also,think croatians are also some kind of dacians.
Other words:
pisanie,old romanian,meaning inscription,from pisani from serbo-croatian,to write
Zestre in romania and зестра (zestra) in bulgarian (same meaning)
citi (to read in romanian) čitati - serbo-croatian and so on,is clearly a slavic word
plug (romanian) - плуг (bulgarian),same pronunciation and pluh in slovac
With immediate connection to Chernyakhov culture,cause it quite absurde to tell that inhabitants from Romania,Serbia,Bulgaria,Ukraine were not practicing agriculture that time but "slavs brought it",ok so now slavs are some kind of warrior invader population,which had in free time as hobby agriculture,lol.
(from what I understood most words from romanian which are used for agricultural terms are from slavic;now romanian scientists supposed romanians where not practicing agriculture,however the
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernyakhov_culture show that they were practicing it;and the words are exactly from old proto-slavic/thracian language).
Other words:
romanian stâncă / stană - croatian stijena - serbian стена
(meaning in all languages a big rock).
In romanian and I think is more closed to old proto-slavic/thracic language (think slavs are called thracians when dacians are called most brave and courageous of the thracians and when thracians are called 2nd numerous after indians,by some historian).
I shall write to you in cyrilic alphabet,since you do not know how to read â and ă from romanian,
стыɴкъ - sorry if I messed up,I do not know cyrilic alphabet,used wiki
ы is only 1 sound and is same with romanian letters â or î. ă is same sound with ъ.
Latins do not have such sounds in their language,germanics got only ă while only slavic languages got â /ы/ѫ.
Romanian language got plenty of ѫ/â sound.
To make a little clear for who does not understood I am talking about the sound as you read the letter ŭ from Veliko Tŭrnovo,the name of bulgarian city.
www.forvo.com/search/%D0%A2%D1%8A%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE/There are also some rivers in Romania called Târnave (Târnava mare,Târnava mica and so on) and a vineyard called same
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2rnave_VineyardNow striking,in macedonian is карпата (carpata read how romanian will read this).
Now romanian mountains,are called,guess how,Carpati (pronounce it as karpati).
Sure macedonians are mostly from dacians,also,since they are also speaking a south slavic language.
And so on.
There are striking resemblance between serbians popular costumes and romanians popular costumes.
Also in popular dances,melodic lines and so on.
Take for example the popular custom koleda,present at serbians (and bulgarians and think to other slavs also) in romanian that is called "colinda".
In romanian dictionary tells that colinda comes from slavonic kolenda.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koledaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colind%C4%83.
What is more weird is that dacians were called "wolf people" and I read on other sites that at serbians there is the custom to put names linked with Vuk (which means wolf in serbian) because that is good for the one bearing it.
Like ,vucinic and so on.
In romanian,there are name with wolf in them (romanian word for wolf - lup,from latin) like Lupu,Lupescu and so on.
Dacians meant something like "wolf people".
Dacians battle flag was an wolf,the draco:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_DracoThere is an ancient custom from Serbia,that is linked to the wolf,called "vucari" with some man gathering around a wolf and singing something.Is weird,I hope I am not bothering anyone since I saw written about this on another slavic forum and after I gave the link to it,it got deleted (the post about serbians being people of the wolf).
You can search on youtube vucari to see it.
No ideea,I think is a pretty pagan custom and since both romanians and serbians+montenegrins are christian orthodox now,it might bother some people.
Guess it was practiced in Romania also,but Orthodox Church forbade it same with puting to people names linked to wolf.
I know there are other similar customs in both Serbia and Romania like dressing in a goat and go sing and so on,for Christmass.
So a serbian hero named Vuk Grgurevic (Vuk means wolf) had the surname of Zmaj Ognjeni.
So he is something like "fiery dragon wolf".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuk_Grgurevi%C4%87And as you can see,dacians had as battle flag a wolf with a tail of a dragon,so a dragon wolf!
Imediate connection with old word used for dragon in romanian language - zmeu/smeu clearly from dacian/proto-slavic.
(romanians scientists who were ashamed of being dacians so slavs,modified the word for zmeu and put now dragon lawl!).
Even more:
Take the popular costume from Czechia,for example,the popular costume from Doudlesbko,how the jacket from male popular costume is called there?
Bunda.
www.czech.cz/en/Discover-CZ/Lifestyle-in-the-Czech-Republic/Tradition/Folk-costumes"A “bunda” or short or long jacket was worn with the costume and a fur coat was worn in winter".
Now in romanian language,an exactly similar term exist :
dexonline.ro/definitie/bundăWhat does this means?
Between other meanings is also used to call the jacket from male popular costumes.
There is also plenty of I2A - din in Czechia also R1A1 (which seems to be the other haplogrup,with various clades,present in thracian/slavic populations).
Take how a lot of popular costume boots are called in romanian,serbo-croatian,macedonian,bulgarian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opanak"Until 50 years ago, they were usually worn in rural areas of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Macedonia, Romania and Serbia. Nowadays, they are only used in folk costume, for folkloric dance ensembles, festivals, feast days or other cultural events."
In romanian,are called same as in macedonian, opinci.
The argument with "in romanian was borrowed from slavic" does not have any logic,dacians national costume from Trajan's column is with opinici as boots.
It is actually the fact atested by Y DNA testing and so on that romanians,serbians,croatians,bosnians,bulgars are dacians/south slavs (this term of slavs was used later).
Ok a lot of romanians want to say they are latins,you can not explain them is not true,whatever.
More obvious,hutsuls have very high percetange of I2A-din on Y DNA a part of them are living in north Romania another part in north Ukraine,they are speaking a slavic language (those from Romania are speaking romanian also) they have same-style popular costumes with romanians and serbians.For sure they are from dacians and did not mixed with other populations.
The teory is that they were "slavicized" oh really,slavs got there,forced hutsuls to change their language to slavic and after left without leaving any traces.Think those slavs are some kind of ET,lawl.Hutsuls are also living in the mountains.
So I think I2A din is dacian/thracian haplogrup,sure thracians had also,since thracians and dacians were not very different populations.
Dacians were mountain people,same happens with serbians and so on.
If look how I2A is spread,is pretty present in all slavs (if you include dacians as slavs and romanians as slavo-romans as genetic ancestry and as latino-slavs,as the language they speak).
The other haplogrup from slavs pretty present is R1A1 (romanians from north have more of this,in south is only about 10%,those from Republic of Moldova got about 30% clades of R1A1 and 30% I2A2 ).
Is sad,cos romanians were taught to be ashamed of their slavic ancestry and the language was pretty changed and so on.And the slavs are very peacefull people (ok dacians were not that peacefull,but they were only doing wars to defend themselves).
Now you might say russians were not peacefull but russians are not real slavs,but rather vikings+karelians mixed with slavs speaking slavic language.
Slavs mixed with Rurik viking and karelian warriors, and also mixed with a lot of fino-ugrian women and gave russian people.
Now russians had as leading class/nobility/boyars from Rurik warriors/ vikings so this is how they taught them to behave like imperialists.
I do not like russians,they are giving slavs a bad name.
Just some suppositions,made above.